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Ninja-wand 
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 Posted: 27/February/2006 at 9:37pm |
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Commercial breeze is faster than the reg conqueror. The brute is recommended for large commercial areas (because its too damn heavy, plus the tank would prevent you from gettin under desks and such). Therefore, The Breeze would be the most logical choice. They also sell a stair tool called the STepson for stairs. Ive just receieved mines and only played with it a couple of times. Seems good so far. |
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Posted: 28/February/2006 at 4:18pm |
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Update: I just asked JOhn Guerkink about the difference between the Conqueror and the Activator. He said that the Activator is the same as the Hruby (which is slower). So, that means that it cant touch the commercial breeze. |
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Posted: 28/February/2006 at 4:59pm |
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Ninja-wand, We do not promote The Activator as a heavy-duty commercial unit. Yes, talk to John Guerkink about his line-up if interested in faster commercial cleaning. But for even faster commercial cleaning don't count out the Cimex. We like to sell The Activator for dry cleaning in homes. |
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Posted: 02/March/2006 at 4:15pm |
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77748, This may sound foolish but in many cases I feel it's true. When cleaning and extremely deep-down soiled traffic area you may be best to clean it with a weaker vacuum or top-clean process. Reason is when you extract it with brute force you keep bringing deep-down soil to the surface, to the surface, to the surface. There appears no end to soil coming up. You can't stay there forever. Is this why traffic areas never look clean after extraction? |
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Posted: 30/March/2006 at 3:13am |
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Damn ! Been doing lots of research Commercial Breeze is able to terry towel clean as well as a commercial type bonnet clean. Bad thing is with the unit, pads, terry towels and there chemicals which there are quite a few totals to 3000 dollars. I like to touch see and feel the unit before forking over that kind of money. Getting it for commercial and there are no sales discounts whatsoever on chems pads unit nothing. I am pretty sure these are Padmans units cmon padman work with us. Been a bad March for us in California . |
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PadMan
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Posted: 31/March/2006 at 6:19pm |
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We do not promote The Activator as a heavy-duty commercial unit. Yes, talk to John Guerkink about his line-up if interested in faster commercial cleaning. But for even faster commercial cleaning don't count out the Cimex.
Thanks Ted, yes we sell the Brute, but what few understand is VERY FAST on commercial carpets, most of our ex-cimex users say it is faster plus still gives you the opportunity to bring up the bulk fo the soil cotton pads, thus giving better results. The 20" Brute cleans from 1500-5000 square feet an hour and we have several people that clean at the 5000 square feet an hour CONSISTENTLY on their larger accounts. |
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Posted: 04/April/2006 at 2:54am |
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Ok! Whats better the Cimex or the Commercial Breeze! Is this right Cimex has a plastic tank and cleans with brushes and white buffing pads ? Commercial breeze you can use cotton pads as well as terry towels right? Both I believe are close to the same price? You would think that a terry towel would clean with friction better dirt right on the towel with agitation. I do not know the ability to clean with the Cimex especially over the breeze? |
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Posted: 04/April/2006 at 3:40am |
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YOu cant compare the Breezeto the Cimex. Cimex is for BIG Commercial and the Breeze is for mostly Resi. (and small Comm.) But if you were to Compare Brute to the Cimex...That'll be a whole different story (so Ive heard). |
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Posted: 04/April/2006 at 3:44am |
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Ok what about the cleaning large area or small what is more effective? They work differently not discussing speed, large or small area. I just want to say hell yeah it cleans. In other words which method (unit) cleans better? |
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Posted: 04/April/2006 at 9:52pm |
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The best way to find out is to post the question on www.excellent-supply.com or go to http://academy.ccsop.com/index.php and ask your question. Edited by Ninja-wand |
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Posted: 05/April/2006 at 1:05am |
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As said the question is what is better in cleaning the Cimex or Commercial Breeze. Ninja I respect and appreciate your feedback is anyone else out there?
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John, Why do you not promote Teds O.P? It's a 17" machine, with a motor that specks out to 3/4 h.p., weighs in about 74 lbs. and orbits between 65 to 75 rpms. Two workers just cleaned a church here in southern Calif. 6,000 sq. ft., open space with some moving of toys and baby things and took them three hrs. or six man hrs and they have machines like the Activator. What is the big difference besides price and color?
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PadMan
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Posted: 06/May/2006 at 4:27pm |
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Huge difference Tom, speed is NOT determined by RPM or by motor size.
We build machines that are faster at cleaning because of our patented counterbalance system.
A 17" Activator will probably run "close" to the speed of a 15" conqueror, but not anywhere close to a 17" commercial breeze.
The Brutes are that much faster yet, tp speeds with the 20" brute are 5,000 square feet per hour, PLUS you are removing soil in any traffic lanes or stained or heavily soiled areas. It is the best of both worlds for commercial cleaning. Edited by PadMan - 06/May/2006 at 4:28pm |
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