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MR. STEAMER 
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 Posted: 20/February/2006 at 9:13am |
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Listen.... just don't carry it.... some times basic soap or some pog will take out rust with a little nikey treatment... I hate rust remover... could come back to haunt you... There was a customer ,who had her couch cleaned in the GTA... there was a little bit of rust around one of the buttons on the arm...the tech used rust remover to get it out... the customer was all happy... 2 months later he daughter to a nap on the couch.... sweat from cheek reacted with rust remover... ate a hole in the girls face... |
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John L
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Posted: 20/February/2006 at 11:12am |
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Jim Darling
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Posted: 20/February/2006 at 12:42pm |
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If anyone is really interested then the new DFC 23 works exceptionally well. It is made only from food ingredients, you can wash your hands with this material and it is less than 1/2 the price of hydrofluoric acid. I think it is only about $5.25 for a 1 ltre bottle. No harsh chemicals, no need to worry about spilling it anywhere
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Mr.Mike
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Posted: 20/February/2006 at 1:03pm |
OMG! |
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I'm positive about the negative...and negative about the positive.
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Steaminpile
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Posted: 20/February/2006 at 2:33pm |
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try the products Jim Darling and myself have recommended,,,it won't hurt anyone I've used hydroflouric acid for years as well and never hurt anyone but it's nice to know I can leave my spotting tray in one place and know the customers kid isn't going to kill him/herself IF they get into it.
there really are some high quality yet safe products out there that clean just as well as the harsher chem's and I don't plan on retiring real soon so I've decided to use them
hydroflouric rust stain removers are also getting harder to find in Canada Edited by Steaminpile |
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John L
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Posted: 20/February/2006 at 6:43pm |
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You can get the powder stuff at the hardware store. cheaper and it works.
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John L
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Posted: 21/February/2006 at 11:04pm |
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NOTE: alkaline rinse dosn't remove the H.A. You need to neutralize it with ammonia..... If you use 1oz. H.A. then you need to add 2oz of ammonia to neutralize.... You guys are leaving the stuff in the carpet.... |
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Advantage
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Posted: 23/February/2006 at 11:10am |
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If you don't rinse H.A. out it will reactivate when it gets wet. Oxalic acid is a safer alternative. H.A. is serious. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalic_acid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroflouric_acid
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CCT, UFT, OCT, CRT, RRT, WRT, SMT, FSRT, JTC, JSR, JWR, MTC a great life, if you don't weaken.
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Mo fo yo money
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Posted: 02/August/2006 at 11:32pm |
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Hydroflouric acid is dangerous. T-Rust and a tamping brush is great for removing rust.
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danmarck82
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Posted: 02/August/2006 at 11:38pm |
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Any company with workers is in risky territory with having Hydrofluoric acid
in the hands of someone who may not know the dangers. I use Chemspec Rust remover GREAT JOB! |
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danmarck82
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Posted: 02/August/2006 at 11:41pm |
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You also take the chance that you leave a bottle on site at a residence and forget after several jobs where you left it. if it get used by the customer and they rub it in with their fingers or worse yet a child gets hold of it ....Bad News . I eliminated it from my arsenal about 10 years ago..... and recommend you do likewise.
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Michael
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Posted: 03/August/2006 at 12:20am |
That's what I've been using for the past year. No complaints. Before that, I used Wink, which works great, but it touches skin, the tingling begins, and you better get yourself to a sink pronto! T-Rust works just as well. |
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Tybie
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Posted: 12/May/2007 at 10:15am |
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There's definitly no need to use anything toxic anymore. There's products out there now that'll do anything.
I use a product called 'Winning Colors'. Been using it for the last year.
You can get it at Color Your World, or Canadian Tire. $10 bottle lasts me about a month. It'll get most common spots out too, ink, food and drink spots. Even paint, and it loosens up gum.
The active ingrediant in it is banana oil. Smeels great too. Customers love it.
IT is non-toxic, and bio-degradable. And it gets out rust almost every time.
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Posted: 22/May/2007 at 10:45pm |
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Tybie
The ingredient you are taking about is Amyl Acetate. Works great and it is in many manufactured spotting formulas.
The negative side is it is very heavy on toxic odor and now that you have told the world about it on the www, your customers may no longer need you for their spotting chores.
Ps....The new generation of oil, ink, grease, gum etc...spots and stain removers are liquid gels.
Gels sit on top of your carpet doing the job as opposed to a liquid that wants to instantly flow to the backing and attack the carpet glues that hold the carpet together and damage the urethane on the hardwood.
Because the gel sits up on the stained carpet and does not flow, one bottle will last three to five times longer than a liquid solvent spotter, offering you a very economical product. Many are on the market, our suggestion is Core Unbelievable Citrus Gel.
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