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Bjørn
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I do have to admit
ken did make improvements on the EZ Glide glide both curtis and I use it because I still use one on comm carpet and the round glide does work better on domestic carpet Problem is for Kens glides to fit the EZ type glide you have to retro fit steel lips. PITA If you dont have a problem with glue you can make a glide with out lips. I even have my own CNC machine which I got used and had to take a class at the tech school just to learn how to use it. with out the Class it is just a big drill press. LOL Ken still needs to take a class in physics to learn how pos and neg flow really work.LOL Edited by Bjørn |
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Superglide Ken
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Well Van, I will enlighten you why people spend $149 to $159 for our SS and SST glides over a cheap $12.50 glide. The Superglide was developed to do lots of things the Easy Glide can not. First of all it will actually glide well. The Easyglide locks down to the carpet under high vacuum load and becomes hard to push. That is because it has a flat bottom on it that causes this lock-down to occur.I know this cause I used to both use them and sell these wands. The Superglide does not. The round bottom on it will not lock down on any carpet. What it does do is glide over the carpet with less than 1/2 to 1/3 the effort of the Easyglide wand. It is made of a Teflon composite material with lower friction than the Delrin plastic Easy Glide is made from. The Superglide moves over the airflow at the carpet than the Easyglide does. 188 cfm to 88 cfm in a test I did a year ago. This happens because it does not lock down. The Superglide removes more water and soil from the carpets as well due to the vacuum slot on the glide being closer to the carpet back. This allows a greater percentage of the water to be removed. Carpet dry times of this glide are close to 1 hour to two hours. I received a call to taday from a user in AZ that said the carpets were completly dry to the touch in the 1st room after he finished the 4th room an hour later. The customer was estatic at the results. I am putting a page of testimonials together so people can hear the results from users themselves.The SST Superglide has a long life of three years to it, whereas the easyglide will be worn out and scratched up in one. The Superglide is so much easy to push that the people using it report production increases of 30% or more . That saves them thousands per year.The Superglide is totally removeable as it slips over the lips of the wand. You can take it off if it ever breaks and still clean with the wand underneath the glide. The Easyglide will not work if you break it, or need to take it off cause it has no lips under it to use on the carpet.
Anyway, that is why people will pay more than $12.50 for our glide. Edited by Superglide Ken |
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Bjørn
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not so ken
every one tried my Vacuum booster at summer fest opened a few eyes from folks even improved the vacuum on new large truck mount with large blower. and made a small truck mount very much improved. I have real witness to this fact! NO hot air just let folks give it a try on several truck mounts. My vac booster only works with PD blowers not portables. Ed V has that market. BTW ED helped me make my product too. That is why I called the first one the EDV#1 |
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PadMan
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Great talking to you Van and I look forward to us playing on some NASTY carpet and tile.
Don't worry about Ken, many of us have known him for years, and that gives us a bit of insight that others don't have. |
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vandene
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I didn't mean to open up a can of worms here first of all so I apologize since I apparently opened up some old wounds here. First of all I want to thank John for calling me and being a person that wants to see the right techniques used regardless of the system. I look forward to meeting you personally and looking at your system. If not to replace mine, certainly to offer it as an alternative to those who prefer or need a good VLM system. As we expand with our new product and service company, I am sure we will have a need for it. Also nice to hear you know about Daddy. He has been very good to me in spite of myself. Now back to Ken and probably more importantly Bjorn. Ken, I very much appreciate your obvious love and excitement for your invention. I personally help others with their own inventons within my church and elsewhere because I learned so much from going through the processes of protection, searches, patent filings, etc. myself. I would give you the same advice I keep in my own mind and continue to give to others which is "never fall in love with your idea." Stay realistic and be willing to look at its disadvantages as well as its advantage. Never try and over justify it to yourself or others. As good as my own invention is over many other systems, I realize the downside is that it contains more parts than a self-contained extractor or even a portable does. The continuous flow advantages help to offset this as does the cost and performance, but simple and easy to use beats out effective more times than I care to admit in this industry. Keep it real. I do have to disagree with you on the cfm verses lift issue. I don't have the knowledge you appear to have with some of the numbers you threw out, but I have spent almost five years in prototyping and field testing and my experience has been that cfm seems to work well when the carpet has raised areas (a WalMart carpet I did, proved this point with its standard carpet having raised areas and drying very quickly) or the wand has a wider head/mouth opening. When a regular carpet wand is applied to a low nap carpet the seal that is created appears to shut down the cfm benefits and water lift takes over. An engineer explained the difference to me in my early stages of prototyping, but more importantly, I have seen it for myself in real life situations. That may not be real scientific wording, but I have seen it time and time again in field tests on various cfm's, waterlifts and carpet constructions. My question was in regards to whether it would help increase the cfm's instead of whether water lift or cfm was more important. You did address the holes in the wand briefly, but you only said you found it didn't work when you tried it because you said it drew air in from the sides and not near the fibers. What about if you did it closer to the fibers? Did you try various places or just decided your glides were the way to go and you didn't want the holes to work? Not trying to be rude here, just know that sometimes we have to step back and say, "maybe not such a good idea after all." I have a dear friend that came up with putting a strap across a wheelbarrows handles to help stabilize it and make it easier to push with your knees. I did a search and found that the same thing had already been invented. We actually almost bought the patent from the inventor in Arizona thinking he just didn't market it properly. After evaluating different angles I realize that the reason it probably wasn't in every WalMart, Lowes and Home Depot wasn't because it was a bad idea or wasn't marketed well, but that people would probably see the idea and realize they could rig up their own with an old belt or even rope instead of $19.95 (or whatever) for the one on the shelf. If I decided to use a glide as it were, I would likely get them from PMF. I have already bought an Easy Glide fitting that they sell on their Easy Glide wands for I believe about $12.50 so $159.00 in comparison seems a little steep to me. If this is not a similar item than by all means enlighten me on the difference. My biggest concern is how I might be able to get better drying times with a normal carpet wand using 200 cfm, but less than 100" of water lift. This brings me to you Bjorn. I appreciated your comments drilling hole on the hand tool, but you said it doesn't work so well on a carpet wand. Can you please elaborate. I am about to try several different hole ports to try different ideas, but would rather not make a bunch of unneccessary holes if someone has a good idea as to where they should go. If you (or anyone else) on this board can give me some advice on how to increase the cfm on this system by possibly porting the wand I would be appreciative. I have already discovered a big difference in going from a 1-1/2" hose to 2" and i'm sure a wand that was 2" all the way down would help even more, but I already get a great price on my wands and don't want to manufacture my own. I know the old Butler wands have several "V" cuts on the bottom of one of the lips and I assume this is to increase the cfm flow for the same reason. Any thoughts on this, especially from any of you that have a Butler wand like that. Not trying to start a big controversy here and my vacuum is already good enough for tile and grout cleaning and blows away a Rainbow system and others at less than 1/3 of their cost in the residential field as well as many commercial portables. Getting more out of the cfm would be a huge benefit however, and doing it at minimal cost is a priority for the residential system that we will be selling for well under $1,000.00. Now everybody be nice and don't let me start anymore bickering. I would appreciate any help from anyone that has experimented with venting their wands in a similar manner. Thanks and be blessed. &nbs p; Van |
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Superglide Ken
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That only helps if you have an under-powered system like the Bane you have. For people with a real TM, they don't need them cause they already got enough.
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Bjørn
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Vacuum boosters are a better way of bringing CFMs to the wand
Knowing how Physics works really helps |
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Superglide Ken
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Mr. Steamer: Far from it. As a HWE guy that uses a wand, they are the single best product you can buy to give your business a boast in profit thru dramatically improving your productivity. It just that everyone on the ICS board already knows about them or somebody that has one. So my time is much better spent elsewhere. Canadians get all the new product introductions now. You lucky guys.
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Bjørn
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I will sell you the Golden Gate Bridge
Very good price cash only deal Ken must be making it big with all those cars in his front yard. LOL that right you dont park your company trucks at home too many cleaners tring to take a peak at your stuff. Edited by Bjørn |
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MR. STEAMER
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so basically your saying glides are over priced and useless????
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Superglide Ken
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LOL. I was leaving that board anyway, John.Evan just made it an official announcement is all. Too much of a distraction to my time now that product sales are taking off.Glide sales are going up, the ZRX3 skid sales are taking off, and I have 2 national distribution sales signed on them.So, you might say I got what I wanted there.More time for production and bringing out the 8 new products I have ready to go between now and next year. I got what I wanted. Edited by Superglide Ken |
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Bjørn
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Ken has a few problems with the laws of physics
and how neg and pos flow REALLY works the holes in the lip work even better on uph tools and not full size wands Buy a cheap Power flite uph too with the clear plastic head just above the lip around 1/2 inch drill a few holes first and you can see how the flow improves and then just customize it to your machine and vacuum. |
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PadMan
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It is "happening" because you got canned from ICS again?
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Superglide Ken
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John: You meet here because the Kleen Kuip board is the place to be to have stuff happen!
Vandene: Thanks for your question. The Superglide is not an expensive tool to use and is very effective. The SST(our latest) is only $159 US , but lasts a minimum 3 years in use. That is guaranteed. That drops the yearly cost down to only $53/year. Since it is a molded product, the cost in the year ahead will only get less as our molding costs are paid off.If you needed to purchase a wand to go with it, that would raise the investment up to $500 US, but would still be great value. Most operators report an increase in productivity that makes them thousands more per year. So it does not cost, it saves money. The holes on the lip I have done , before developing the glides.They are not as effective, because they let the air in at the sides, and not thru the carpet fibers, where you want it. You say you are not happy with 200 cfm? That is strange, since the average portable only uses about 40 cfm and the average TM uses about 100 cfm thru a regular wand on the carpet while it is working. Even the regular glides we sell will only give you about 175 to 200 cfms with the glides on with a TM. Lift is not the thing to concentrate on anyway. Airflow is the key. Rather than building machines with expensive vac systems, get the lift up to 12"HG(165"WL) and concentrate on getting higher cfm into the vacuum slot. The more cfms that can be produced, the faster the intake velocity at the lips of the slot becomes. The higher the velocity goes, the greater the amount of water recovered along with the soil removed. Thus the better the cleaning becomes.That is what the glide does. By allowing more into wands DURING cleaning, it allow lip velocities to increase from the 14,000 fpm range that most wands produce with TMS , up to around 20,000 to 22,000 fpm. That is called keeping it simple. When you can do that at a cost of only $53/year, you have a winning product.
Ask any thing else you like about this and I will help you. Always happy to help a fellow inventer that wishs to improve the process as I do. Edited by Superglide Ken |
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