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gmoney,

Great thoughts and I appreciate them all.

As far as the homeowner not putting down the money, you are right when talking about comparing it with a Bissell or similar system off a WalMart shelf, but understand that many people have paid $2,000.00 - $3,000.00 for a kirby G4, Electrolux Shampooer or Rainbow.

None of these systems have the power of this machine let alone the continuous flow advantage enabling hotter water, no dumping of a small tank and proper application of pre-spray and acid rinse. I am hoping you are wrong on that point because I am hoping to target mostly a residential market with the economy system.

For the record, this vacuum/waste tank is designed to where the foaming problems are not an issue as with other systems. You are right about the hose being in the way a little, but strategic placement will help that and it can also be placed into the wasing machine outlet port if desired. Just make sure you don't forget to put their washing machine drain hose back in. lol

If a person wants a more professional looking unit I have industrial pumps available that can be placed in their own containers or carried with an attached handle like the Water Horse from Pumptec. I also have just about any type of portable casing available including one that is a heavy fiberglass contruction in a very portable 5 gallon container. This is literally hand-carriable and has water lift capability from 117" - 249." We can go up to 340" with other models. This does increase the price considerably, but is also competitive in pricing with anything on the market. In other words, I can give a ninja look with continuous flow if that is what the cleaner wants.

I do have a truck mount configuration as well, but I have drained my finances to the point where I haven't had the extra capital to build it yet. It is an electric unit run by a generator (Either direct-drive or a seperate portable unit in the van), but is much more powerful than a Bane Clean.

 This is not to knock Bane however (I don't want to start another controversy) as I started over 15 years ago with a Bane. I am just a believer of high pressure, high heat and high vacuum. The truck mount would have a propane heater for heat, a high heat capacity pressure pump and be powered by large 7.2" Ametek Lamb Motors with Switched Reluctance Brushless Motors. It would have the auto fill and dump feature and also would probably have a waste tank with overfill kill switch.

With generator, heater, pump, vacuums, reels, tank, etc. this would probably run around $6,000.00 or more, but would be very impressive and very low maintenance compared to a gas truck mount.

I am really focusing this invention more towards the residential market and to offer a system to those in the commercial market that want to do the work in-house. I agree strongly that the right portable system used properly will beat any truck mount used improperly every time. Since there are more people that cut corners than do it right, this system shines very brightly when put up against their current cleaner or system.

While I am thrilled to find out you believe in doing the work properly, I see more and more these days that don't. I am big on educating people as to the need for proper pre-vacuuming, pre-spraying, agitation, fiber (acid) rinsing and not running like you are in a race with wand stroke.

We eventually plan on setting up a national service company that will be willing to take over work where we see the customer paying enough money to meet our rates, but not getting professional cleaning done as they should. We not only prove we are better than their current cleaner, but make sure each manager/owner/supervisor knows what they should be watching for so they can keep our people accountable as well. In other words, we don't just say we are good, but explain to them what that entails. Sounds like you are already doing something similar.

For those that expect a professional cleaning for $6.00 a hotel room or $25.00 for a 1,000 (or larger) sq. ft. apartment, we try to explain to them that nobody can give them true professional cleaning without losing money. If they listen and don't want to pay more, we show them how they can get professional results for even less by purchasing the right equipment and using it properly.

If they won't listen, we tell them there are more than enough bozo cleans waiting to line up and clean for those prices while telling them how good they are. If they allow me to show them what good means and decide to watch those cleaners, they will see I am correct and that those cleaners are woefully inadequate. If not, they are certainly allowed to go on being deceived into thinking they are getting a great job done for ridiculously low prices. The problem with being deceived is you don't know you are deceived. I run across this more than I care to admit and may one day even set up a company called lickety-split budget cleaners, but so far, sleeping at night as become more important. lol

I truly appreciate your ideas about getting to the pictures quicker. I didn't like all the text before the pictures and realize I can be too wordy at (you may have noticed that with these short novels I right on this board) times.

The other site for tile and grout is up at http://econotile.cleantileandcarpet.com  I look forward to your comments on this as well.

If I can get the cfm working better with either a glide or by porting the wand differently (which is why I jumped on this board in the first place) the vacuum shown may become much better for carpet as well. It already is incredible for the tile and grout system and a person would be wasting their money to upgrade the vacuum unless they were going to do a lot of carpet. Hopefully a glide or wand configuration will create the drying  times I want for carpet as well.

Keep the suggestions coming. I remain teachable and look forward to your input.

God bless and take care,         & nbsp;         & nbsp;         & nbsp;         & nbsp;    Van

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Padman you obviously did not read my last post. 

 And you contradict yourself by saying you did not condone the beating and then in your next sentence ask why the others were not beaten (implying obviously that Rodney brought it on himself and deserved it).  I already know where you stand.  Van and myself had already cleared the air.

Vandene,

I took a look at your sight and your concept is solid.  I would be lying to you though if I said I did not have any reservations about it.  Are you marketing this system primarily to home owners for themselves or for the professional carpet cleaner?  Even the the price is reasonable for a professional, I don't see the average homeowner dropping down $800 on a system to clean their carpets.

As an option for someone getting into the business it is a good buy.  Not only because of the price but also because of how you have designed the system.  Most people starting out (including myself) had no clue how to clean a carpet properly after buying the unit.  You have included the pre-spray set up, scrub brush for agitation, fibre rinse and eliminated the need for dumping.  Very impressive. 

The dumping feature has its pros and cons.  When you are new in the business and buy a small machine you are stopping to dump often because of overwetting (a common beginner's mistake).  Also, you are sometimes stopping because you have mixed the chemical strong and/or forgot to put defoamer in the recovery tank. 

On the flip side, the auto dump feature makes having a fairly long hose in the way inconveniencing yourself and your client.  And you did acknowledge on your site that the multitude of pieces was a necessary evil in order for system to work as designed.  Some clients might not like you occupying a toilet in house for this purpose, especially if it is the only one.

The system itself does not LOOK very professional to the customer.  I am not saying it does not perform a professional job.  This is the reason why many steam cleaners with a portable like to have a professional looking Ninja, Mytee, Michaels etc. for the perceived professionalism.  And this is why many guys love their truckmounts and wow the customer with their speech of how much better a truckmount is than a portable.  So in short, a customer will see a truckmount as the ultimate, then a convential portable, and then your system. 

Now an individual educated on how to talk to the customer and display their professionalism will win the customer over.  For instance, I have a 400 psi portable and any customer that was expecting a truckmount is thoroughly convinced that I will do as good or a better job before I even start the job.  I educate them briefly on the role of a prespray, dwell time, psi (truckmounts usually don't go above 400), dry passes, certification etc.  You might want to put together a few of these points in a brochure, booklet, or as a link on your site in order to help newbies change a customer's perception of the system at first glance.  How much psi is your system by the way?

You do go into extensive detail when explaining the setup.  This is good but I think a more reader friendly format is needed.  I don' t have all the answers but putting a picture of the complete system at the top of website would be visually engaging.  Right now you have it a the bottom of the site and there is a lot of words to read through before you see any pictures. 

A bunch of questions at the top of the page would invite the reader to be more of a participant in your copy.  For instance: Would you like to achieve professional carpet cleaning results without having to pay what most professional pay for their equipment?  Would you like to know the simple basics of cleaning a carpet that will guarantee a job well done?  Learn about the one technique that can improve your results 100%.(pre-spray with agitation). See the results for yourself. (then show some before and after photos of places you have cleaned).

I could go on and on but I think this is a good start.  

Tell me what you think.  If you think I am way off base or you don't agree with some of what was said; that' s cool.  

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Who can say how much we saw up here. Alot gets edited.
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Did you Canadians see the rest of the video? The first part was not showed everywhere, but where it was people had a bit different take on things that transpired.
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Other guys were not fighting back John, but Rodney was. That is why he was singled out for the beating.
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I do NOT condone his beating, but was asking a couple of questions, no one answered them...humm

 

Why were the other blacks with Rodney not beaten

 

Do you see the FIRST part of the video or just the second half the media wanted you to see?

 

Simple questions really, just would LIKE simple answers instead of ASSumptions.

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Gmoney,

You are a prince among men my friend and I appreciate your understanding and forgiveness.

I certainly look forward to learning from you all and being able to help in any way I can as well.

I have a temporary URL up introducing a best value system of mine I would appreciate your comments on as well. It is probably too wordy as I have a tendency to give out too much information sometimes.

It is a great system at a great price however and I would appreciate your comments on it as well as anyone else's on this board.

Most importantly, is it easy enough to understand how the concept works overall or do I need to explain it better?

The value system sub URL is http://econocarpet.cleantileandcarpet.com

We also can build any combination of cfm, waterlift, heat, pressure using this same contiuous flow system. So far we have up to 340" of water lift available and I also have a 249" water lift machine coming out that will even be hand-carriable.

I will also have my best value tile URL up by the first of next week. It will be at http://econotile.cleantileandcarpet.com

If I am not supposed to be promoting products on this site by the way, let me know and I will respectively stop.

Thank you for your rebuke and your acceptance of my apology as well.

By the way a great radio station you can listen to online is at www.klove.com It has great music as well as great news, stories, jokes and much more all brought with a good family and Christian perspective. Relationship, not religion.

Everyone have a great weekend and I will check in on the board sometime Monday.

Be blessed,        &nbs p;         &nbs p;         &nbs p;    Van

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What about all the the little white seals that are KLUBED TO DEATH by good natured fun loving Kanadians

And for what end?

NO Canadian Rcmp never ever beat up anybody

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Vandene,

I appreciate the fact that you realize certain words in your statement were inappropriate.  That says a lot about your character. 

In response to Padman and yourself, I never once argued his innocence or the fact that he deserved to pay for his misconduct.  That is a given.  The manner in which he was dealt with was totally uncalled for.  The policemen in question turned him into a martyr (their mistake).  Why focus on why Rodney was not guilty?  Which was the crime which had far more social impact?  Its a no brainer.  My question would be why the policemen were not found guilty. 

 And just to clarify, its more of a human rights and professional conduct issue than a racial issue.  I would have the same arguement if he was asian or european. 

By the way, what happened to you was also wrong and you just weren't lucky enough to have an amateur videographer near by.

Anyways, all is well.  I am not a poltical activist nor wish to be one.  So lets try and get back to brightening up this board with some engaging conversation about our industry.

 

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Guys,

See that I made another mistake already. It was gman and not Mr. Steamer that made the comment about me falling from grace. More of that imperfection of mine. Sorry,                     Van

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Guys,

I certainly apologize for anyone thinking in any way that I condone the beating of Rodney King or of anyone else for that matter. As you have pointed out, I should have simply made the statement without the added comment of his likely guilt.

I simply meant to imply that as padman stated, there are consequences to crime even though once again, they should never include unneccessary force. My best friend also happens to be black so I can assure you the comment did not come from racist overtones nor is it just a "Southern issue."

I do believe he was well compensated and I can only hope that he has done something good with that money and can also hope that police around the world have learned from that mistake and the riots that it caused.

I myself was jumped and beated by several policemen before I got my life together. I have scars in the top of my head and a mangled finger as a result. I didn't get any compensation and had to even pay my doctor bill from getting stitched up at the hospital and having surgery on my finger done. Not saying this for pity, but I do understand  unneccesary force.

I certainly don't condone beatings on myself or anyone else and didn't mean to imply in any way that I did. I simply was making a comment on the fact that he was not a knight in shining armour and I believe the entire incident shows that, not just the end of the video. Just as the media shows the bad in Iraq and little of the good, they tended to lean only on the beating and not what led up to it. Not that excessive force should ever be used once again!

I am sorry for bringing this up inappropriately and will keep to industry subjects only in the future. If I use any other quotes I will be sure not to include any extra commentary when using them.

I humbly ask for your forgiveness and once again, didn't mean to stir up any trouble. The very phrase was meant to imply that. The comment was obviously inappropriately placed and I apologize for it.

As far as falling from grace Mr. Steamer, I am human and make many mistakes. I am sure I will make many more. Please don't look at me as a good example of Christianity as I have many failings and wouldn't deserve to be held in anyone's graces i'm sure.

At least my wife thinks I am great (even though I don't deserve that either) so if we ever meet and she's with me, don't let her know the truth okay? :)

Ghandi once said in response to what he had wrong with Jesus Christ. "I have nothing against Jesus Christ, it is his people and if all Christians were more like Jesus, most the world would be Christian."

I hope you will forgive me for my failing and I will continue to try and be a better example of Him in the future and can assure you that I didn't mean to offend.

In His Grip of Grace.

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So what who cares

DONT YOU KANADIANS STILL KLUB LITTLE SEALS BY THE MILLIONS


Any way the guy was accused of IMPERSONATING A PINATA

HE GOT WHAT WAS COMING TO HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOW GO KLUB SOME SEALS

Two navy seals just got back from the war

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ANYTHING BUT KANADIAN KLUB


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I agree Mr. Steamer,

I will have to agree to disagree with Padman and vandene.  I guess it is still accepted down south for 4 armed police officers to use excessive force against an unarmed suspect and use racial slurs at will.  P.S.  Padman, I guess it is a good thing they were not trying to take down Jet Li; then they would have been justified in breaking both of his legs to take away the threat of a round house kick to the head (which would have been well deserved)! Nuff said.

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