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    Posted: 11/October/2009 at 2:32pm
Anyone have any knowledge of the TruckForce 3500 portables?  How reliable are they?

I'm thinking on a portable to start with and I've become tentative on the Rotovac startup package. They start you out mainly with:

Rotovac Powerwand
Mytee 1000  portable

I was looking at portables again and since I want to be careful of my first choice and I've become interested in these two:

1. Mytee 1003 DX which has 3 stage vacuum motors and if I'm not mistaken are better for drying.

 TruckForce 3500 which has a 22 gallon solution tank and a 15 gallon waste tank.  What I really like is the autofill of water and chemical but the one drawback is it's not heated and it has a high price of about $3500 which seems high to have no heater.

The Mytee1003DX has a heater but no auto wate or fill.

I appreciate any comments



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I would go with the Mytee. It is the more powerful of the 2 because of the more powerful motors used and the fact they are in Parallel which give more power. And it is almost 1/2 the price of the Truckforce which doesn't hurt either. I have heard from my customers that it the more reliable of the 2 as well. That is my opinion.
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Thanks for the info Ken.

I like the heated option of the Mytee.  Now I wonder if Rotovac would allow me to swap out the Mytee 1000 they offer in the package if I'm willing to pay whatever the extra is. Wink

I do think the Truckforce is more than I want to pay...and to not have the option of heated water is a concern too because it mean if I want heat I have to buy a in line heater.

I've been reading in the forum on portables and I want one that will take 50' of vac hose but still do a good job pulling out the water.


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Yep, they LOVE to do upgrades! 

One thing though. 

Rotovacs use water so fast the inline heater can't keep up so just make sure you have the customer turn up the hot water heater to HIGH the night before.  But the heater is great for a standard wand which Cliff Munson endorses using except where a powerwand is needed (like if the customer is watching) or where the physical labor needed makes the Rotovac the way to go.

I use the powerwand (not the 360), upholstery tool, stair tool, regular wand as well as the tile/grout heads on a 1001 Mytee.  I use an old HILD floor machine for shampoo and bonnet.  I like to be flexible and will use muliple techniques on a single job - doing what needs to be done in each area.  Traffic Lanes get the full treatment, never walk on edges get a quick pass of a wand or possibly a bonnet.

Different stroking tools for different target areas.  I clean the Christmas dinner roasting pan with steel wool, the china gets a soft sponge or wash cloth.  Same philosophy with carpet cleaning is my style of cleaning these days.  My methods are flexible, my body is not.


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Thanks for the info SLG

I'm glad they'll do upgrades I'm gonna call the on their lowest price guaranteed lowest price too because I've seen the 1003DX for as low as $1849.

As for the Rotovac Powerwand my boss has already told me that I should start with a regular  jet wand and hold back the Rotovac for when I need it. I think that a good policy for a wand which they list at $2195.

My boss has 2 TMs and 2 portables and we do excellent cleaning with regular 2 jet wands. He's moving for a 3rd TM setup soon but just lost a TM extractor so he may wait til the new year.

My plan is to work out of a GMC Safari or Chevy Astro cargo van but I'm gonna stay under my boss for a while and ease my way into my own.

Getting up and running is gonna cost me around $8k for all I want. Cool
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Mine is a 1999 Chevy Astro with the cargo cage of course.  I use regular cargo straps to hold the porty in one spot behind the driver's seat.  I think my total investment for the newer equipment from Rotovac and then van ran me about $10k so I am convinced your initial investment into fixed assets sounds right.
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Originally posted by CleanBean CleanBean wrote:

Thanks for the info SLG

I'm glad they'll do upgrades I'm gonna call the on their lowest price
guaranteed lowest price too because I've seen the 1003DX for as low as
$1849.

As for the Rotovac Powerwand my boss has already told me that I should
start with a regularĀ  jet wand and hold back the Rotovac for when I
need it. I think that a good policy for a wand which they list at $2195. My boss has 2 TMs and 2 portables and we do excellent cleaning with regular 2 jet wands. He's moving for a 3rd TM setup soon but just lost a TM extractor so he may wait til the new year.My plan is to work out of a GMC Safari or Chevy Astro cargo van but I'm gonna stay under my boss for a while and ease my way into my own. Getting up and running is gonna cost me around $<span ="line"></span>8k for all I want. Cool



Clean Bean:

Who carries the 1003DX for $1849?
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Hey Ken,

Discount Cleaning Products...here's the link:

http://www.discountcleaningproducts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1003DX&thissku=1003DX&site=www.become.com

Found it for $1 678.95 at pro detailing supplies. Google them by that name because the link didn't work. Look under the "Store" menu and at the very bottom you'll find "Hot Water Carpet Extractors"




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That is not a bad price for the extractor only.  Wonder how much hoses and a wand go for?  I didn't see any mention of the power cords, I hope they are not extra.

I am just thinking that Rotovac sells their extractors complete with wand and hoses and cords.  I doubt that they would break up a set to match prices.   But of course they would guarantee their prices to be the lowest for the equipment configurations they have.

You know, if they beat the best price you find by $.01, technically they win that price challenge.
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Wand and hose generally go for $200 when purchaed with machine. Not much margin at that price.
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Carpet Cleaner Do switches come with that machine?   OuchElectrifyOuch
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We don't need no stinkin swiches mahnUh, uh, uh
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Each toggle switch is $50 extra US... Disapprove
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Perhaps neither are as good a bargain as they appear.  Rotovac will give me the Mytee  DX in the package fo an extra $1k which makes the price  $3995. That will include:

The Rotovac Powerwand, Mytee  1003DX, 25' Vac and solution hoses, stainless steel dual jet wand' carpet rake, stainless steel upholtery/stair tool, Rotovac cleaning detergent, CTI spotting kit along with a marketing package and flyers.

Not bad to me Wink


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