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doug 
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 Posted: 25/October/2004 at 7:45pm |
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Mr. Steamer: I talked to a carpet cleaner who was cleaning at the place where we stay in florida. I have talked to a couple of different cleaners each year we go. You think GTA is cut throat, it has nothing on Florida. But I like the heat so I would go there. After all I think there is thousands people a day moving into Florida. But we stay in Kississmme a few minutes from everything and a little slower pace. I think the hard part would be having no real season change.
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 25/October/2004 at 6:45pm |
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I was thinking about buying Sears Orlando.... but too hot you only can do 3 jobs a day if your lucky.. plus there is a lot of grout cleaning... maybe even more than carpet.... I think at the time they where charging 27 bucks a room.... anyways if you want to have volume of calls you have to have more than one form of advertising... Steamin you and Padman can laugh all you want but its true... What does a big company have over you??? Lots of them only have a few employees and the rest are subs.....anyone can do that.. They Advertise... YP...Val Pak... news paper... telemarketing... mass mailings from more than just 1 pak company.... Believe it or not Sears GTA will book 60 to 90 calls a day... 60 calls is slow, they need at least 60 to keep things rolling... How do they get the calls ADVERTISE every single form possible... For extra Money Techs do door hangers up and down the street they are on.. Advertise + good Service = CASH MONEY MILLIONAIRE
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doug
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Posted: 25/October/2004 at 4:07pm |
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Mr. Steamer: You are right about Sears in the US. I usually collect their brochures when ever we go over. Puting what they get into canadian money and I might even be happy with what they charge. I may not be in the GTA, but we do have one thing in common. People who want things for nothing. My horse and I can get pissed off real easy somedays.
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 25/October/2004 at 3:01pm |
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I guess it does depend on geographic location... but Steamin I don't think what I said is a crock, once again someone has to belittle someone else to get their point across... if you don't agree don't agree but don't talk to me like I'm a fool.... In Orlando Florida Sears charges more than we do here, and people pay, no complaints... call average is way higher... When I post I only post with the knowledge and experience from the GTA, where in the Yellow pages there is a few hundred CC co. with big ads and a 1000 or so with word ads... as a small guy if you get 1 call all year from the yellow pages you're bloody lucky.... to cover the GTA area with a small 10 by 10 ad will easily cost you $1000-$1500 a month... with no guarantees I've been in this a while I don't post crap.... I only speak from what I know If your 15mins late... they want it free.... Had one Lady demand that we pay her for her day off (500 bucks) and clean the carpet free.. Gta also has alot of ethnic peoples who will try anything to reduce cut or get it free.... Out in the boons where Santa claus dare not go anything can happen BIG CITY BIG PROBLEMS Edited by MR. STEAMER |
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Steaminpile
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Posted: 25/October/2004 at 11:22am |
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"American believe in paying for service... Canadians want them for free"
that's a crock last CC co. I worked for we were charging .30 sq.ft. and I know he's raised his prices since then. I think it is how and who you market your services to. where you live makes a big difference. I have only been on my own since Dec. 2002 and other than a smaller YP ad I have done 0 advertising this year and I can hardly keep up to all the work. but I can see it being more difficult in a larger city
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 24/October/2004 at 9:10pm |
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Free enterprise happened douggie... CC machine became more affordable for everyone here in Canada... and the Big Firms Cutting the price so low, that they aren't even making money... American believe in paying for service... Canadians want them for free |
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doug
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Posted: 24/October/2004 at 9:01pm |
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I can recall a day when we made more a sq. ft. here in Canada for carpet cleaning than in the US. What to hell happened?
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 24/October/2004 at 8:58pm |
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I was talking about the advertising... he say he only has the YP... In the GTA YP a lone will bring you nothing... If I was counting on the YP I wouldn't have any TP |
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Posted: 24/October/2004 at 8:50pm |
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Mr. Steamer: John does make 30% to 40% more than most guys in the USA get, and more than double what most guys in the GTA are getting. He has been charging .30/sq ft US for a few years now.Last national survey I saw put the average price per ft down there at .22/sq ft. Add 37% to that price and you get .30/sq ft. I believe John only used to average 2 jobs a day. At his prices though, he still ended up with a pretty nice home and vehicles with that. |
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 24/October/2004 at 8:41pm |
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Well I guess you don't need the volume of calls Padman... since you make 30 to 40% more than HWE operators.... I can read between the lines and basically your telling me I have no idea.. See its comments just like that one, that make things get down and dirty but I'll just play dumb, easy enough for me since I don't know what I'm talkin about.....LOL I'm just a dumb Canuk |
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Superglide Ken
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Posted: 24/October/2004 at 8:33pm |
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That works well in Kentucky John, but a guy in the GTA will starve with that approach. I know, cause my first year in business was spent there and I almost did.
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PadMan
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Posted: 24/October/2004 at 5:52pm |
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To get the calls you have to have at least five different forms of ads running at the same time
Wow, 5 types, I guess my business of 31 years will never get off the ground... LOL We have a small YP and that is IT, period |
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 24/October/2004 at 10:58am |
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Advertising is the thing... you put your money out in ads, which inturn bring you revenue.. The small cleaner can't afford to do that.... To get the calls you have to have at least five different forms of ads running at the same time
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Posted: 23/October/2004 at 5:42am |
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Good points. We opened up on a casual basis $30,000 doesn't go far, trust me! You also have to have a spot to store your van for winter weather.Advertising is out of this world. You have to have good equipment, and a van that doesn't make you look like a plumber. We charge "what ever we can get". We are not in a position to turn work away, its better than the van sitting.
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