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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 5:55pm

Hey not a bad Idea Steamin....

So far we have to build a good business Service... Marketing.... Money, what else can be done???

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carpetologist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 6:57pm

Originally posted by Steaminpile Steaminpile wrote:

or you could laminate a few of them fridge magnets we all give away and stick em on the van with a lil sign or sticker that says take one??

That's a hell of an idea! Your van loaded with fridge magnets would be a  definite show stopper.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Superglide Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/October/2004 at 2:09am
I have another good idea for you. Get a copy of a $1000 bill, and in the middle of it have it read: Our work may not cost this much- but it's worth it! Then print your company Name and phone number just below that. They wont throw it out. Magnetize it, and they will keep it on their fridge.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote splash_$$$_dash Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/October/2004 at 5:47am
Cover your entire truck with those little fridge mags
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/October/2004 at 7:34am
only bad thing... say if the truck gets dirty or wet....lol That couldn't happen with the card box..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carpetologist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/October/2004 at 9:56am

Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

So basically what you're say Ted is "ONE CAN'T WIN"

You make it sound so hard & cold. There just has to be a better way. Put your thinking cap on. Cleaning carpet has to be a better job than many other jobs out there. Maybe you need to import people from countries who would be overjoyed to be in this country doing anything.

Or maybe you take Splash's method. It appears he has the ability to wheel, deal, hire and fire plus put up with this constant turn-over. Personally I couldn't handle that.

But today you do what you have to in order to stay in business.

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In a lot of other countries...a shop vac and foam is considered big business
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In Mexico today, if you got that, you are an important businessman. If you got more than that, you are an important kidnap target, to be held for ransom.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OCC Boss Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23/October/2004 at 5:42am
Good points. We opened up on a casual basis $30,000 doesn't go far, trust me! You also have to have a spot to store your van for winter weather.Advertising is out of this world. You have to have good equipment, and a van that doesn't make you look like a plumber. We charge "what ever we can get". We are not in a position to turn work away, its better than the van sitting.
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Advertising is the thing... you put your money out in ads, which inturn bring you revenue..  The small cleaner can't afford to do that.... To get the calls you have to have at least five different forms of ads running at the same time
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote PadMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24/October/2004 at 5:52pm

To get the calls you have to have at least five different forms of ads running at the same time

 

Wow, 5 types, I guess my business of 31 years will never get off the ground... LOL We have a small YP and that is IT, period

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Superglide Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24/October/2004 at 8:33pm
That works well in Kentucky John, but a guy in the GTA will starve with that approach. I know, cause my first year in business was spent there and I almost did.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24/October/2004 at 8:41pm

Well I guess you don't need the volume of calls Padman... since you make 30 to 40% more than HWE operators....

I can read between the lines and basically your telling me I have no idea..

See its comments just like that one, that make things get down and dirty

but I'll just play dumb, easy enough for me since I don't know what I'm talkin about.....LOL

I'm just a dumb Canuk

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Superglide Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24/October/2004 at 8:50pm

Mr. Steamer: John does make 30% to 40% more than most guys in the USA get, and  more than double what most guys in the GTA are getting. He has been charging .30/sq ft US for a few years now.Last national survey I saw put the average price per ft down there at .22/sq ft. Add 37% to that price and you get .30/sq ft.

I believe John only used to average 2 jobs a day. At his prices though, he still ended up with a pretty nice home and vehicles with that.

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