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Splash & Steamer,

If when I go to the car wash and I was told that I had to take the first layer of dust off myself I would go elsewhere.

They major reason why carpet cleaners don't vacuum (they know they should) is because they know they can get away with it. Click here for Dry Soil Removal Post Apr. 26/04

HooBoy will also get all his answers here. I don't want my dentist, doctor, mechanic etc. to cut corners. Most who you pay a little more for don't.
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also we're too lazy LOL
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when you're confirming the call...you tell them to vac...thats all there is to it... I have 5-7 jobs perday no time to vac...my time is money
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I bet Mr. Steamer is a very wealthy man! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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At the risk of giving even more offense, I'll inquire further.

I've never used or even seen a pile lifter. I understand by its name what its trying to do, but I'd just like a bit more information about it. (Perhaps I should just PM Ted and he can set me straight without all the hooplah.)

Does a pile lifter have a bag? Are its brushes counter-rotating? How specifically does it differ from a regular vacuum cleaner?

Much thanks for any info!

 
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Hoo Boy

Scroll back approx: five posts where we were addressing Splash & Steamer and click on dry soil and removal.  All the pictures and information you require are on that site.
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Yes read carefully Hoo booy
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Okay, great. Thanks for the info.

Where and when would a pile lifter be preferred to a regular vacuum cleaner; or is it just assumed it will do a superior job of vacuuming in general, seeing it has the dual motor? Specifically, is it the best choice for precleaning, or is it best used as a daily sweeper? Where are pile lifters best applied?

Thanks again!
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Originally posted by splash_$$$_dash splash_$$$_dash wrote:

forget that sh*t, tell the lady of the house it's her job!

IF YOU CAME TO MY HOUSE WITH THAT CHAUVANISTIC ATTITUDE i WOULD  "SPLASH" YOU WITH SOME PEPPER SPRAY AND "DASH" YOUR ASS OUT MY DOOR! LADY OF THE HOUSE PUHLEEEEEEESE!

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Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

you would think that mud would be easier to suck away???

 

HEY STEAMER

MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY NOT MAKING ALL THAT MUD IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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HI HOOBOY

SORRY I DIDN'T SEE THIS POST SOONER MAYBE YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN ANSWER INSTEAD OF A HASSLE.

We have used a Pile Lifter and numerous commercial vacuums.

  • a pile lifter has a large stiff brissle brush that actually digs into the carpet and relifts the fibres
  • it also provides adjitation therefore releasing excess dirt from the fibre and base of the carpet
  • it also has a mechanism that prevents large articles ei. coins, paperclips, plastic etc. from damaging the motor.
  • The one down fall the pilelifter we used was that it wouldn't allow you to vacuum any closer than 2 1/2 inches from the wall
  • This is a problem because dust and hair like to settle in the edges
  • It also heavy and ackward and a pain for houses.

Commercial vacs like the Sanitaire have GREAT suction, they are light weight and if you get a magnetic strip put on the nose of it, it will pick up the coins, paperclips and if your not going too fast some bigger items. (for those to lazy to bend and snap)

We vacuum at the end of every cleaning

our customers love it!

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Hey thanks, Diva! Very nice answer, and just the info I was looking for. I have no experience with the pile lifter, and that's why I wanted to know.

What kind of vacuum do you use after you're done cleaning, (or is it the pile lifter?) I guess I'd rather not mess with one if possible, but only use a good commercial vac.

I'm researching different brands right now. PowrFlite looks like a good brand, as does this Sanitare. Any other top notch brands that have a good reputation in this industry?

Along the same lines, is there any preference towards using a bag vs a dirt cup vacuum? The dirt cup would seem to be the preferrable way to go, but there's probably a major dust issue with them. Any info is much appreciated!

Thanks again.
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Diva I always thought you vacuum before cleaning, not after. Even when you pad clean the carpet is still damp, how does a vacuum cleaner pick up dust or dirt on wet fibers. Does this not ruin your motor in your vacuum? 

Keep it as simple as the question. Most times long answers give me a head ache.

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I'm sure they vac first Adwa???? or do they????

"Keep it as simple as the question. Most times long answers give me a head ache."

oh my she may not post a reply now adwa
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