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nightrider
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Ted, you are now totally confusing me , you sold me a big freakin truckmount with all the bells and whistles, when i could have just bought toilet paper to clean carpets.........what a rip off. send me 200 cases of toilet paper NIGHTRIDER |
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PadMan
Dr. Low Moisture http://ccsop.com Joined: 11/March/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1032 |
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LOL, exactly Senor Carpetologist, what type pad machine and pads do you sell? Mot of the time, 50 pads in the truck will do you all day, but our TOUGHEST job was the government building, 5 men 8-9 hours each and we used a total of like 320 pads for the day. But that was the worst case scenario. |
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carpetologist
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Padman maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks. I have seen many pad jobs that totally amazed me, but I still had the doubt in my mind as were did the dirt go. I now understand a little better as I read. You use some times up to 100 pads on a job. When we sell a pad machine in Toronto most customers purchase one pad. Not exactly true, Lee bought many. Its a no brainier why did I not figure it out. If you use enough Toilet Paper you get the job done properly and comfortably. |
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PadMan
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YOu could? How would you know that? Others had tried, but failed, and NO you wouldn't have gotten that out with a rotary and brownout, not a chance. Yes there was padding, but WHAT are you saying is under the pad? Dried rusty water? So what does that have to do with removing the stain and keeping it from wicking? NOTHING goes down to the padding and cleans. |
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MR. STEAMER
True Patriot Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14544 |
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Padman was there underpading under that carpet?????I could do the same job with a little brown out and my bonnet machine.... you know if that's underpaded thats all still there...right??? |
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nightrider
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PadMan are you married......I think I'm falling in love..........good work......I think we can all agree. NIGHTRIDER |
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PadMan
Dr. Low Moisture http://ccsop.com Joined: 11/March/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1032 |
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Most HWE guys know the HAVE to say that, wicking is not stopped by VLM cleaning because it is low moisture, it stops it because you can remove what is causing it. The pictures below are examples of carpets that had been HWE'd but wicked back, we STOPPED it permanently.
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Steaminpile
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It's because you're not getting it very wet. Wicbacks are operator error. |
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PadMan
Dr. Low Moisture http://ccsop.com Joined: 11/March/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1032 |
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As deep as HWE, that is for sure, on many carpets deeper. We have been brainwashed into believing because a lot of water is used that the carpet is rinsed or CLEANED way down deep. Well what is deep cleaning? Deep cleaning is cleaning deep enough the customer never see what dirt is left. Some with think this bogus, but time after time we have tested this, no matter how well you clean, I can come back and get more, then you more than me more and so forth. We were in Atlanta at a TM manufacturers place, he had been cleaning on an 8' x 4' piece of carpet for a couple of hours, demoing the machine. We went over this OVER CLEANED carpet with a pad and it was quite dirty, the TM manufacturer was amazed, I told him, now you do some more, he got more, then me and I got more soil. People what we clean is gravity fed, anyone thinking THEY are truly getting all the soil out is sadly mistaken no matter HOW much they WISH they got it all out, to think so is simply lying to yourself. So again, how deep is deep? I will go toe to toe with a TM anyday, period.
Mister Steamer, yes there is a stair tool, it is a smaller oscillating machine, and will impress you with the way it cleans up the bulledge of the stair!
NightRider, side by sides are great, but the fun is when you then switch sides and clean each others work, HWE guys are sick when they see how much was left in the carpet THEY THOUGHT was clean. Question is: Where did the dirt come from? The Top or the Bottom????? One of the main reasons many get this system is because you can eliminate wickbacks with it... there again, do you think they are eliminated beucase you don't get the carpet wet or because you get the elements causing the wickbacks out? Edited by PadMan |
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LeeS.
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For commercial carpet maintenance , nothing comes close to the Cimex. You will have a blast tearing that up. |
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MR. STEAMER
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So all this time....OP was the way to go....is there an OP stair tool????
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nightrider
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Padman..you know that I think you do nice good work, I will also admit on this forum we have promised to meet in the next comming months in Kentucky to see your machine in action. I have been speaking with Ted at Kleenkuip for some walk behinds that will cut down on time and expence for some maintenance contracts I picked up starting towards mid summer, these are secure 2 and 3 year deals that require regular monthly carpet care program, and as it stands your machine might be the answer, maybe it's not, I have no idea, but to say deep down cleaning is possible with your machine. I think NOT. Make a Video using both systems, and do all the tests in front of the camera, but PadMan.......no break-away shots, and keep talking while the camera is rolling, or better still I want to see a big clock with a big red second hand counting every second that goes by while the camera keeps rolling. Jack NIGHTRIDER where time and destiny meet only once in a lifetime |
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greg
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mr steamer bonnet ,and buy the sounds of it op cleaning, clean to the base of the fiber. if i'm wrong let me know padman.
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nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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PadMan
Dr. Low Moisture http://ccsop.com Joined: 11/March/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1032 |
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I am not asking you to buy anything, I am telling you that it is so, whether or not you believe is irrevelant.
It isn't a SLAM on HWE to have a deep cleaning method. |
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