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Topic: Wool Carpet
Posted By: dan mitolo
Subject: Wool Carpet
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 5:23pm
I'm bidding on a whole house with wool carpet. Is there a special chemical that I must use? I have a Rotovac.

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Posted By: hardworkers
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 7:36pm

remember low ph 5-8. or it will disolve in a alkaline state. Besafe and use a neutral chem. Also move a lot of air, wool will absorb alot of water. Check your tools for burrs too.

 

I hope you have insurance, its expense.



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Posted By: dan mitolo
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 7:40pm
what do you mean by alkaline state, neutral chem and tools for burrs?

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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 7:55pm

I'd leave the Rotovac in the van

 

I'd use a neutral prespray and low psi

 

they say you can't use alot of heat but I have never had a problem in regards to heat

wool can be a bit stubborn to clean but not really a big deal,hate that wet dog smell though.

Ecogent works very well on wool IMO.



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Posted By: hardworkers
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 8:00pm

Dan,

no offense but you don't have any business doing that job if you couldn't understand what I just said in the previous post.

respectfully, Joey



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 9:00pm

Originally posted by dan mitolo dan mitolo wrote:

what do you mean by alkaline state, neutral chem and tools for burrs?
I agree .... if you don't understand these terms I wouldn't clean that wool

if it's not that dirty you can just mist and dry vac...lol

you don't want to know the cost of wall to wall wool.....

 



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 9:18pm
Mr. Steamer I have wool in my garage park my classics on it. Works great as a vapour barrier. The two are worth in the area of a $125.00 sq. yd. got them from claims.

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Posted By: dan mitolo
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 9:50pm
as you can tell , i'm very new at this. i'm trying to learn all that i can and get as many jobs as i can handle so that i can take classes and make a career out of this. so please, answer my earlier questions so that i can become a better carpet cleaning man...thanks.

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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 10:05pm

 

Ph scale

          1    2     3     4     5    6       7         8      9     10     11       12  

acid---------------------------------neutral---------------- ---------------------alkaline

 

you want it to be neutral

 

alkaline is commonly pretty much SOAP

 

a prespray Ph of around 8 is perfect for wool

 

quite honestly if your going to clean textiles with 0 experience (I don't especially recommend it) your best to stick with neutral cleaning agents until you learn more

high alkalinity will cause things like browning of the carpet not to mention rapid resoiling

 

Ecogent and DFC by Chemspec come to mind

I like Ultrachem but there is a learning curve for it so maybe in the future.

 

The burring reference is towards scarring on your wand or equipment that might snag the fibers

 

which is why I mentioned NOT using the rotovac,,,,,too aggressive for wool in my opinion



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 10:07pm

you should be teaching the IICRC class



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 10:10pm

Dan: As in previous posts wool is not a very good choice to learn on. However it is cleaned the same as a synthetic to a degree.  You must use a lower ph to clean it I believe Steaminpile reccommended EcoGent this is a cleaner made by chemspec and works fairly well on light to moderate soiling. One important thing with using a lower ph cleaner is dwell time and and since it is wool use a light agitation (capet rake to gently work the cleaner into the carpet). I would also put a rinse agent threw the machine and try to use just enough water to rinse the soil and cleaner out of the carpet.  OK we have covered the actual cleaning now the ever so important part.

The pre inspection: you can never be to careful when it is wool you are dealing with.  Check along the outer walls to make sure the carpet is snug on the tack strip and has not had damage from a previous cleaning. Check all pivot areas for excessive wear and or soiling check all door ways check the steps and very importantly check all the seams. Now since this is wool  regardless if it is wool or not  you want to write down anything that is not normal ie bad seam door rubbing on carpet carpet already pulling away from wall.  this may sound like alot of work but documenting this prior to the job and having the homeowner sign that they are aware may save you some expalining at the end of the job.  With wool the other very important thing is to give a good vacuum.  I am no expert on this matter but being new this may be of some assistance. One other thing is you will not need the Rotovac.  Maybe Canada's own Mr. Lee Senter will read this waste of space and explain the proper proceedures for cleaning wool carpet.Guitar



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 10:26pm

wow doug .... a red board post right here on KK

I'm impressed

dry vac dry vac dry vac



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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 10:31pm
don't forget the clothes pin for your nose

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Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 10/November/2005 at 10:59pm

Doug---

wool carpet for your garage eh??!!>>!!!

I knew it.

Where is your Porsche???



Posted By: badgerman steve
Date Posted: 11/November/2005 at 1:06am

Lots of good advise.

My 2 cents is to make sure you dry it fast with a airmover. The Studebaker airpath dryer is amazing. Lots of good reports on it.

 

Dusty.



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 11/November/2005 at 11:02am
Originally posted by LilNiteRidrhood LilNiteRidrhood wrote:

Doug---

wool carpet for your garage eh??!!>>!!!

I knew it.

Where is your Porsche???

 You still have it. I am waiting for you to put your old one up for sale.



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 11/November/2005 at 1:02pm
he has his other two babies laying on the wool...

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Posted By: Advantage
Date Posted: 14/November/2005 at 8:08pm

Is it wool berber or wool cut pile?  Berbers are fun.

How old is it?  Aged wool also fun.

Has it been cleaned before?  What did they use?

If it's loose stretch it before you clean it.  Be careful with the seams.

Pull up a corner see what kind of pad and backing it has.  Could be Jute backing, not good when wet.

Any animals in the home?  Animals and wool bad juju.

Did you test the fiber yourself or are you going on their word?  Not a bad idea to test for yourself.

Wool can hide a lot of dirt.  If if looks dirty, it's real dirty.  What you don't get out will wick up. So clean it well.

Last and not least, What are you charging?  Specialty carpets mean specialty prices, not plastic prices.  CHARGE WELL!

 

 



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Posted By: dan mitolo
Date Posted: 14/November/2005 at 8:38pm

are you suggesting that i charge at least 5 cents extra per sq. foot?



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 12:33am
it's a cut pile wool... only the best for doug's babies

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 12:15pm
Steamer how did you know?

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 1:00pm
doug you roll like that... living large and in charge

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 3:04pm
I am only in charge when everyone else is away?

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 6:25pm
When are you large?


Posted By: dan mitolo
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 8:01pm
ladies or gentlemen...i am a christian and i'd appreciate better language.

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Posted By: Advantage
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 8:52pm
Depending on what the going rate for your location charge at least 50% more.  If you are at 30 cents charge 45 etc.  Be carefull.

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CCT, UFT, OCT, CRT, RRT, WRT, SMT, FSRT, JTC, JSR, JWR, MTC a great life, if you don't weaken.




Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 9:19pm

Originally posted by dan mitolo dan mitolo wrote:

ladies or gentlemen...i am a christian and i'd appreciate better language.

I didn't see any foul language in this thread



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 10:06pm
When it comes to defamming me all langusge is foul?

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 10:46pm
Musta been your serious post, Doug. Completely threw everyone off


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 7:49am
must mean another thread

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 11:03am
Must be


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 12:53pm
You guys have to be more careful regarding you tone of voice?

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Posted By: dan mitolo
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 1:02pm
guys i read the thread wrong. i apologize.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 1:40pm

I thought I was going crackers



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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 9:52pm
Me too


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 11:10pm
Two crackers?

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/November/2005 at 3:19am
Almost enough for a bowl of soup



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