Water Claw Spotter
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Forum Name: Urine Stains and General Spot Removal
Forum Description: Having trouble getting that spot out? Problems with urine?
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Topic: Water Claw Spotter
Posted By: carpetologist
Subject: Water Claw Spotter
Date Posted: 22/April/2004 at 5:53pm
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Yep, you have heard about it. You have been told about it. Now here it is...
This makes you an absolute PRO at spotting. Believe me when I say it extracts off the main floor through the underpad, through the carpet backing and face fibers. Out the first time everytime. Deep down coffee and urine is gone, gone, gone! No other tool has its ability. The other thing that is gone is your profit if you don't own one and have to return to reappearing spots over and over again. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 22/April/2004 at 7:05pm
| how much Ted...and do you have any in stock??? |
Posted By: greg
Date Posted: 23/April/2004 at 12:46pm
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i use the claw on urine, and it work great. ------------- nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet. |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 23/April/2004 at 5:35pm
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Mr. Steamer Spotting water claw $199.00 canadian funds Yes we have them in stock ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 23/April/2004 at 8:57pm
| Could have used it today.....I must pass by and pick one up |
Posted By: Gerry
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 8:46am
I always have problem with water stain on carpets especialy in basement where they have carpets .The cleaning method i used are the Host product (dry carpet Cleaning)and the Vonsschrader system (LMX) is there a easier way to remove a larger water stain.Thank You Gerry ------------- Pilon&Sons Carpet and upholstery cleaning Host and Vonschreder |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 3:55pm
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Gerry Vonschrader and host are too dry a system to handle a brown and yellow water stain. You will require a product called browning treatment to be sprayed over the stained area. If this in itself does not work pad clean or steam clean the area over again with browning treatment only. Have you called Host and Vonshrader, I would be interested in knowing how they suggest you handle these situations with this equipment for future enquirers. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 3:56pm
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Mr. Steamer Just we do have the water claw spotter in stock and the price is $199.00 Canadian Funds. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: buffer
Date Posted: 15/May/2004 at 7:08pm
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to use th spot lifter water claw is the area saturated then the water claw is applied to lift the spot out. or how do you guys do it . ------------- rotovac |
Posted By: rotovac
Date Posted: 25/May/2004 at 7:35am
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bought a waterclaw and i think im going to like it knowing it will make life easier to get that spot out. ------------- rotovac |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 25/May/2004 at 5:04pm
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Buffer you answered your own question. Yes its just that simple. Soak then extract. No other instrument can match it. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
buffer wrote:Posted By: buffer
Date Posted: 25/May/2004 at 9:54pm
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i bought the claw and tried it out for the first time and boy was i suprised it did what it had done and got out the stain out ,unbeleiveable and it made spotting easier and guys and gals you want to make life easier try the claw you will not regreat it have a great day cause i had mineand the money just keeps rolling in . the website is http://www.waterclaw.com - www.waterclaw.com . |
Posted By: Hugh
Date Posted: 09/June/2004 at 9:05am
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Re: WATER CLAW I can't $ay enough good things about this tool. I just added $160...yes $160 dollars to yesterday's job. I did a narrow walkway between the dining room to dayroom. Seemed like it was the cat's favorite peepee spot. I love pets more and more everyday Know you know, Hugh
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. I soaked it with warm water to which I added a a little deodorizer...BAM...gone no more peepee spot or smell. She willingly paid me the extra $160.Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 09/June/2004 at 4:24pm
| that sounds great...but what about the wood floor underneath...do you think you got the pee out of that too??? |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 09/June/2004 at 4:47pm
Mr. Steamer: Don't burst the boy's bubble with your negativity. Or should I say don't pee on his parade. As long as he feels good let him enjoy as it will be short lived????? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: buffer
Date Posted: 10/June/2004 at 9:46am
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hey if the customer is happy and the spot is gone who cares it s only what the customer wants and if he or she wants the stain gone then so be it . ------------- rotovac |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 10/June/2004 at 1:25pm
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Buffer, rotovav: Do you also operate with more than one name?? Your ethics are above and beyond. You make this industry what it is becoming congratulations. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 10/June/2004 at 1:47pm
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doug...you shouldn't burst the mans bubble either.... it's all about making money...would you like to super size your fries and drink???....do you want encore???do you know how fast you where going???? all these things mean money...money makes the world go round... A real consumer would be here getting all the info they could so they wouldn't get ripped when they call in a service man |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 10/June/2004 at 1:53pm
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Mr. Steamer: I unfortunately have to call a spade a spade. I call it as I read it. Believe it or not! ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 10/June/2004 at 2:00pm
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Doud it's the way of the world....no service person does good work now a days... Even in my own house every service guy I get seems to be the village idiot... I try and know my stuff, so I'm not taken for a ride... I also watch them like a hawk....only people that are doing wrongs hate to be watched
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 10/June/2004 at 3:06pm
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Mr. Steamer: I have been called quite a few thing but never a Doud. If is for these reasons it becomes sometimes impossible to explain and sell a product that works because some jacka** ripped them off previously. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 10/June/2004 at 4:49pm
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I agree, Yes provide the quick-fix and make a buck doing it if this is what the customer wants. But if you have a deeper knowledge of what their real problem is don't leave without giving them the deeper option. Don't look back down the road when the cancer reappears. That's bad publicity. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: rotovac
Date Posted: 10/June/2004 at 5:55pm
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Oh well i guess we are all entitled to an opinion, yes i have to screen names cause i have two different ISP S my wife has msn and i have Walmart connect and hope this ends the confusion.
------------- rotovac |
Posted By: rotovac
Date Posted: 10/June/2004 at 5:58pm
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And yes i do agree with you carpetologist. ------------- rotovac |
Posted By: rotovac
Date Posted: 14/June/2004 at 3:51pm
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I have both the water claw spotlifter and the restoration tool water claw they do not have a serial # on them what happens if they get stolen? just a thought? Also what can i put on a coffee stain and lifit it out with the spot lifter?
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Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 14/June/2004 at 5:58pm
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Rotovac Good to see you are happy with the Water Claw family. They are awesome. But, on the last traces of coffee, tea, or wine spray with Vanish or HelpMate and walk-away. Scratch on your own serial #. Because when your competition reads this they will surely steal it from you. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: buffer
Date Posted: 14/June/2004 at 7:09pm
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carpetologist thanks for the tip i guess stain magic will do and some people just like their coffee dark so we will see how that goes talk to you later. buffer ------------- rotovac |
Posted By: rotovac
Date Posted: 14/July/2004 at 6:32pm
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got some doggie due on the carpet (crap) and it left stains from the prior occupant what is the best way to get rid of those nasty brown spots i think it was doggie diarriea any suggestions? ------------- rotovac |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 15/July/2004 at 1:19pm
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If these stains are from a prior occupant most likely the kitchen sink & all has probably been sprayed and rubbed on it. The rule of thumb on spots & stains that originate from a body (human or animal) should be treated with an alkaline solution usually ammoniated. These products are called protein solutions or maybe blood out etc. But don't confuse color damage with spots. If the original color is gone you need a dye kit. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: rotovac
Date Posted: 16/July/2004 at 8:25am
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Thanks for the info carpetologist. ------------- rotovac |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 20/July/2004 at 4:15pm
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We are back into stock with Water Claw Spotters. Come in and pick one up today and impress yourself that the spots you remove will not be returning. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 05/August/2004 at 6:36am
| Hey ted... what kind of spots can the claw remove????? is it good on ink??? or pick popsicle or coolaid??? is there any thing for filtration lines?? |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 05/August/2004 at 6:12pm
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A good thing for filtration is a knife. Restretch the carpet usually about an inch is enough. Scrubbing along the walls is a pain and usuallu the carpet is kind of fragile there. I have tried many cleaners some work some are a complete waste of time. If you time is worth nothing work at the lines. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 05/August/2004 at 6:23pm
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my guy does it for 110 bucks a room....is that a reasonable rate??? |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/August/2004 at 2:32pm
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Mr. Steamer: I think $110. is not a resonable rate per room. But if he gets it more power to him. Unless things have change from when I used to do inspections in the GTA the repair and reinstallation man is the one who should be busy, because I never inspected too much work installers had done. Just work by some carpet layers?????????????? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 06/August/2004 at 5:30pm
| Yep he gets it...whats the average rate??? |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 07/August/2004 at 3:36pm
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We sell a product from Esteam especially for filtration lines. It's called Olefin Prespray. We also sell a product called Yukon Gold. Basically filtration marks are caused by trapped oil hydrocarbons. The product needed is usually high is solvency. But mechanical action is usually needed. It's a lot of work and should be an extra charge. The claw is good for litfing anything that has penetrated deep. Although Ink and Kook Aid usually require dye and mild bleaches. P.S. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 08/August/2004 at 1:16pm
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Ted: I have had absolutly no results using olefin prespray on filtration lines. As a matter of fact I personally think olefin prespray is a waste of money for any cleaning of carpets. Soap and water probably works better. But that is just my experience. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Suction
Date Posted: 09/August/2004 at 11:01am
| black marks around the edge can't come out??????The things you learn |
Posted By: fastone1979
Date Posted: 28/November/2004 at 8:54pm
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hey guys I install carpet professionaly. The correct way to charge for a restrech is by the number of yards you are restreching. if the room is 12x12 then charge them for 16 yards at whatever rate you want I get 4.50 a yard. Or somtimes if its a good customer I'll do it for say 30-50 bucks. Damm I cant wait to start my cleaning business! ------------- every job is a self portrait of yourself! So autograph it with quality! |
Posted By: danmarck
Date Posted: 28/November/2004 at 11:59pm
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Filter Out from Prochem ...... First explain how filtration lines occur to the
customer and charge extra for your time. Many will opt to not spend the extra. " To explain in advance is to educate, to explain after is to make excuses" Filter Out also works on Graphite filings under the Rocking/recliners ------------- Here to help you grow your business! |
Posted By: danmarck
Date Posted: 29/November/2004 at 12:05am
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As far as Pet urine......OSR from Pro's Choice has worked flawless for us.
Up to this past year I was unable to find anything that was all that great. OSR and the water Claw work excellent. The water claw is only a tool, but it gives you the opportunity to saturate a given area allow the chemical to dwell and do it's thing and be able to draw moisture through deeper layers , many times all the way down to the subsurface. concrete or wood or whatever. ------------- Here to help you grow your business! |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/November/2004 at 10:17pm
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Filter out doesn't work... ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/November/2004 at 10:28pm
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Filter out didn't work for me either. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/November/2004 at 10:30pm
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danmark: How do you saturate say a area about 4 X 6 and know you were successful? claw or no claw? I am not convinced. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: danmarck
Date Posted: 29/November/2004 at 11:04pm
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I don't saturate an area 4X6 . I first explain to the customer that as long
as you still have the pet we can not guarantee any results. I then explain that , " the extreme in a urine contamination case is that the carpet is discarded, the floor is treated & sealed and a new or remnant carpet installed. ( No I don't want to do That is always the response) "So the best that we can do for you mam when contamination occurs is to locate , as best we can where the pet has urinated by using a special light that flouresses the urine spots. Once we locate where the urine has gone in to the carpet , we can saturate that area with a product that helps breaks down the bacteria and stain.(PRO"S CHOICE OSR) After it dwells for a while we extract it out and rinse it . "As you may know Mam or sir , the spot on top of the carpet can be the size of a quarter and the spot below the carpet can be the size of a basketball so there is no way of guaranteeing that we are going to get it all ..But it should be a good improvement. The cost is $75.00 per hour for the time spent on the contamination. Usually we can do most rooms in 1/ 2 to 1 hour. I'll know more once we start the process. Do you wish us to proceeds? Doug and Mr. Steamer what is your alternative for Filtration lines and or urine contamination. There is nothing 100% in these situations. Filter out is the best I have found to date . If you are willing to share your solution to the above situation , please do , it will be appreciated Thanks ------------- Here to help you grow your business! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 7:57am
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danmark: Is there any health issues with the pro's choice that is left in the carpet? Is there an off gassing affect while so much is left there? What about residue left on the spot? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: danmarck
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 8:52am
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Doug,
I draw as much out of the carpet as possible with the water claw then I rinse the spots and area thoroughly if residue is left under the carpet I doubt we have any health issues. Remember what Health issue we had prior to starting the process. The carpet was contaminated with Urine. A question such as this would be better answered by the chemist at pro's choice. Again , What is your alternative if you would share your way with the rest of us so we can all improve. Thanks in advance ------------- Here to help you grow your business! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 2:56pm
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danmark: If the carpet is contamimated what about the underpad and floor? The area of underpad contamination is probably 3 or 4 times greater than the carpet. If I was to find several areas that I could locate because the animal male or female has alot to do with and where the contamination is located. I unfortunately call a spade a spade and don't bs the client into thinking I can squirt and suck the problems away. You maybe making a slight difference but not enough in my books to pay you for. All this topical application crap is just chemical companies bs making you believe that you are making a difference. I believe I read someplace that a medium sized dog can leave about 50 or so gallons of urine in a year. Now if the dog has gone on that spot say 10 or 20 times. You tell me that you are going to suck that threw the scrim on the carpet. If you can't blow threw it you can't dry it. Leaving you chemical to do nothing but mask the odour and maybe over time have some affect on it. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 8:20pm
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doug, I am almost sick of saying the word Proxi myself. But had a customer say it removed filtration lines for him. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 8:42pm
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Ted: I have proxy. Have not had any filtration lines. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: danmarck
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 9:12pm
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First of all Doug, I am not BS'ing anyone I am describing how I handle the
urine contamination at this time until you are willing to post your better method so we all can learn a better way. (So far no positive answers.) If you will go back and review my explanation to the customer. This is all about alternatives. The customer is told of the only surefire way of getting rid of the contamination.( removal / replacement and clean disinfect and reseal the floor etc. ....they are not willing to go that route. We then offer them the option to locate each urine spot with a black light treat the urine spot not only the quarter size spot on top but by finding out how big the dog is I saturate an area about 4to5 times the size of the spot on top. this takes into account that the pad spot below is always bigger than the top spot. We saturate to reach as far down as the urine. I would never ever saturate a carpet unless I knew positively that I can remove the moisture as far down as I am letting it get. If you have never used a Water Claw or OSR I recommend checking it out. It does draw the moisture from deep into the bottom layers. If you are only willing to bash someone when they explain a newer method that works for them . SO BE IT. No one said you had to use this method. You act as if we are shoving a method down your throat I'm not. I am only explaining what works for me and I feel I am very upfront with the customer. reread my previous post. If you have a better method Please share it with all of us so we can all learn how to properly handle urine contamination. Thanks ------------- Here to help you grow your business! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 10:37pm
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danmark: Kool your jets. You can handle urine how ever you like. I am saying I would not and will not and do not attempt to explain how I can attempt to rectify a problem I can't see. You do what works for you. I am not bashing anyone. I am as I have stated on other boards not in agreement on how urine decontamination is carried out. You notice I don't call it removal as you are not removing it you are attempting to neutralize it with chemicals and water. You carry on however you like as this is the reccognized way of the industry. I just don't happen to agree with it. So what does that make me? Dumb, stupid, you tell me. Unlike some I still have a mind of my and I am not affraid to dissagree with the powers that be. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/December/2004 at 12:15am
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well said doug...I guess no baaa baaa for you ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: danmarck
Date Posted: 01/December/2004 at 12:33am
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Doug,
I can tell by your other posts you are neither dumb nor stupid just because you disagree with " the recognized way of the industry " as you so put it . You have EVERY RIGHT to express your views. Thats how we learn and change. Post AWAY . But there is a difference between destructive criticism and constructive criticism. you offered no better method or ideas of improvement just criticism. and " I did take offense to the INSINUATION that I BS my customers." look back at the post I don't think any of what i did was other than " the recognized way of the industry " as you put it. I explain to the customer my procedure, what to expect and what not to expect, tell them the cost, ask their permission to proceed and try to outperform their expectations can you ask for a much more professional way to handle urine contamination issues. I along with many other observers on this site perhaps would like to learn how exactly you handle a urine contamination job in a more professional manner. Not everyone has to do everything alike. Here is your chance.... We are here to learn . Me included. I never give my customers false expectations. I try to undersell and outperform, then everyones happy. Are there others out there that are willing to share their methods with us . it can't be that BAD, or can it ? BE STRONG!!!! ------------- Here to help you grow your business! |
Posted By: danmarck
Date Posted: 01/December/2004 at 12:48am
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Doug, my jets are now cool ...Thanks ------------- Here to help you grow your business! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 8:53am
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danmark: I have no secrets regarding urine. Just common sence. Urine contamination is a field all it's own. We wear saftey equipment because of tack strips and other contanination. I have had claims where you could put a butter knife down threw a hard wood floor and underneath the floor joists were rotten for the first couple of inches. The previous owners put new carpet over the hardwood floor to hid the unforseen. Every job is a whole new ball game and I treat them that way. This is probably not want you wanted to read but I am not an instructor just a carpet cleaner and I would not want to lead anyone down the wrong path. Everyone has a method and mine is probably not the recconized one. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: danmarck
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 5:57pm
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From Doug
"This is probably not want you wanted to read but I am not an instructor just a carpet cleaner and I would not want to lead anyone down the wrong path." Doug, give me a break, This site, as all sites, should be used to exchange ideas and learn . That learning process is stifled when a person shares his or her methods and successes ( or Failures) with others and is lambasted by someone who criticizes the method, but is not willing to offer anything better in it's place. Why do you think there are so many " watchers" on this site . They are probably afraid to speak up in fear of having to go through the same bull-crap that I did, just to share an " INDUSTRY ACCEPTED METHOD" with the board. for 20 plus years I was a little frustrated with the feeling that I was not able to accomplish a urine decontamination with the same quality standards as the rest of my work. So I kept my mind open to new ideas, read a lot of articles and tried to learn from the experiences of others by attending seminars on Oder issues. For the past three years I have used the OSR and the Water claw. I still feel at times that it is not 100% . and we all know there isn't 100% when dealing with urine, short of ripping it out and starting over. So what is the next best thing. To me, it is trying to learn what others are having success with, and being open to try things that others have said "works". Explain the limitations to your customer, make sure they understand that it is contamination and that you can't just "deodorize it " . Explain your method and your pricing , Get permission to proceed and " Get R Done". Lesson : Don't criticize a post unless you are willing to share a better method of your own. It's in sharing that we all learn and PROSPER!!!! Doug, If you haven't had a chance to see a water claw in use maybe Ted can arrange a Demo. Like any tool it has it's place. After using one for a while I think you will realize it helps in getting some of those spills up that used to wick... like pop and coffee juices etc . Good Luck ! ------------- Here to help you grow your business! |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 8:01pm
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some secrets best left untold.... Everyone has to have a trade mark... we can't share everything ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 9:26pm
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Danmarck, I think doug owns a Water Claw but I will mail him a video tomorrow. Yes the Water Claw amazes me. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 10:48pm
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All I use is common sence. Unfortunately in some cases that may be against the law. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 11:38pm
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danmark: Don't critize. Who the hell are you talking to here. Are you some kind of saviour or what? You give people a false sence of security. You contaminate their indoor enviorment with chemicals which may or may not be harmful to them. Do you get an authirization to subject these people to your chemicals? Do you explain the pros and cons of your chemicals to these people? Oh I forgot the water claw that is your secret weapon of mass contamination. The same people you lead to believe you have solved all the carpet problems can live a longer life. The next day they probably go to a faith healer get hit on the forehead, cleanse their bodies of all diseases, now everything is ok. I wonder if the faith healer uses a water claw. Just for those hard to extract virusrs? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: danmarck
Date Posted: 03/December/2004 at 2:50am
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Doug,
Do you use chemicals to help your customers with their pet urine problems?? Answer your own question ....Do you get authorization to use chemicals on the carpets you clean? give me a break. Do not most customers assume that something other than water is used by most cleaning companies to clean there carpet? They wash their clothes with detergents , they shampoo their hair with chemicals , they wash their dishes etc. etc. What is your point. The customer is given the option of having the carpet torn out or use chemicals to help neutralize the situation, it's their choice. Again I do not proceed until I have informed the customer of what procedures I will take to help remedy the situation and get their approval of the process. I make no guarantees. I tell them upfront as stated in the previous posts that you can not possible eliminate the total urine problem from the top. ( where is the false sense of security you refer to .) I am not promising anything other than I will do my best to carry out the procedures that I explained to them . They agree to these procedures. They have every right to ask for M.S.D.S. sheets if they are at all concerned about the chemical I use. My M.S.D.S. Sheets are available in the van to any customer for the asking. Doug , Do you not use chemicals in your cleaning process?? As far as the rest of your post. I haven't a clue as to what you are trying to say. Anybody else here understand.... ? ------------- Here to help you grow your business! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/December/2004 at 8:06am
danamrk: I am going to bring closure to this as you have you way and I have mine. Mine is not to mask but to physically remove any  contamination peroid. So if your happy and you know it clap your hands------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: danmarck
Date Posted: 03/December/2004 at 8:51am
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JavaScript:AddSmileyIcon('[=D%3E]' Thanks Doug, Not one customer in 23 years has ever asked me to remove the carpet because of urine. For most, it is just to expense an option. Almost all the time they refuse to get rid of the pet ( that caused the problem ) and know the problem may reoccur. I try to offer options. We agree to disagree , Doug . JavaScript:AddSmileyIcon('  ')
Thanks for the posts.  ------------- Here to help you grow your business! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/December/2004 at 10:58am
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danmark: You have been around alot longer than I. It would certainly be boreing if everyone agreed on everything. I sometimes dissagree just to keep the post going. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/December/2004 at 1:27pm
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Customers don't care...they say just get it as clean as you can... ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/December/2004 at 6:18pm
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Mr. Steamer: I guess my customers are not as easy going as yours. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/December/2004 at 6:39pm
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no I tell them the truth....sometimes I'll even pull up the carpet to show them... some don't want to spend any extra money...they rather live in the piss and shi t ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/December/2004 at 10:16pm
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Mr. Steamer: That I can believe. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: hardworkers
Date Posted: 27/October/2005 at 7:50pm
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Posted By: spruce
Date Posted: 28/October/2005 at 12:05am
http://www.baneclene.com/catalog/soilfiltration.html - http://www.baneclene.com/catalog/soilfiltration.html I think this will help ------------- A closed mind is like a closed book; just a block of wood |
Posted By: hardworkers
Date Posted: 28/October/2005 at 7:39pm
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Oh, yeah thats it. I have a client with that problem. She will be my first to tackle on my new business. you know I have bane-clene catalog and don't recall that situation but is has a lot of info. Thanks!
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Posted By: Paul Moss
Date Posted: 12/February/2006 at 3:35pm
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This tool is also very good for lifting back the carpet yarn after indentations from furniture ( some times) ------------- Paul Moss MBISCc |