Mytee dx1005 vs Recoil
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Topic: Mytee dx1005 vs Recoil
Posted By: MASTER STEAM CLEAN
Subject: Mytee dx1005 vs Recoil
Date Posted: 26/November/2008 at 5:11pm
| Any input on recoil vs mytee dx 1005.The way I see it mytee is 1000 cheaper than the xps. I get this number from DX w/ Booster . Mytee has 2 3stage vac a optional universal 3 stage booster 125 of lift x 300 cfm is 37500 vac units. I think it has lil more vac units than recoil. Recoil 2 3stage vacand 2 stage booster built in . But the recoil has auto dump on that model included. bOTH UNITS HAVE 2 inch ports both units have 450 psi pumps. Why is recoil the better choice . 1200 dollars more for the recoil care to build some value . Inmy opinion a C/C on budget would want the Mytee. But I do like The recoil with the 40 gallon tanks |
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 27/November/2008 at 7:39am
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How is the Mytee booster universal? the only one I know of is the Airhog, and it only works with the Mytee. Also, the biggest tank you can get is more important than price if you are going to do serious business. If you don't have an autofill/dump, then you have to spend time emptying and filling the machine. How much would you pay to reduce your trips to the sink by 40% (or whatever number) for the life of the machine? If you pay someone $10 and the save 1 hour a day, you'll make back your money in 3-4 months. I retired a 20 year old Castex last year, and I can only imagine how much I could have made with a tank that was bigger. Certainly a 6 gallon increase would be worth tens of thousands. And in addition to having a relatively small tank, the Mytee pump is actually a 500 psi pump that is set to 450. The excess 50 psi is being pumped into the recovery tank, so the darn thing is filling up faster than any other machine on the market. If you are able to see a demo, just watch the water drop in the solution tank while the thing is running. Open the recovery tank when it is empty and watch the water flow in. It's crazy. I own a DX, so I am speaking from experience. But if initial cost is your only concern, the Mytee can't be beat. That's why is sells so well. |
Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 27/November/2008 at 1:54pm
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friendly ... I have to correct you on a couple of points you made pertaining to the mytee . I own the mytee 1003 hv. when the pressure builds too high the cleaning solution is returned back into the solution tank not the dirty water tank. I also own the universal vac booster which is a 3 stg vac motor and attaches to the solution tank lid on any porty with the screw on lid and can be purchased from steambrite for 399.00. I now operate my porty with 3 3stg vacs. my mytee is 3 years old and so far not a single problem...great machine very powerful. I run 100' of hose from it every day. for a porty it rocks. ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: MASTER STEAM CLEAN
Date Posted: 27/November/2008 at 5:20pm
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Watchman is correct about the steam brite universal 9 stages of vac, the air hog would 10 stages of vac and lil more lift due to the 2/ 2 stages . The bad part to the universal boost is it is attached to the top of waste tank Drag baby drag is the problem. I think a inline boost like savages inline or the nordic would be the absolute best system nut the best system comes with a price 1100 - 2000 for a booster 100- 170 cfm. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 28/November/2008 at 3:24am
My 1003DX has a priming lever. When depressed it pumps the water from the solution tank into the recovery tank. When the machine is running, water still moves from one tank to the other. Mytee explains that they have adjusted their 500 psi pump to work at 450 to increase the life of the pump. That extra 50 psi is going into the recovery tank on my machine. If I run my machine at 200 psi, even more water (250 psi - in other words, more gpm) flows into the tank. I've compared it to a demo model and found the same thing. Perhaps yours is different than mine, but those are the facts. Any doubts? Test my explanation with a new demo model. You'll thank me if you do. Also, I still have yet to see a universal Mytee booster. Yes, others make them, but that's not the point. Although it is a fantastic booster, the Airhog is by no means universal. It won't work with any other machine on the planet. If you are serious about carpet cleaning with a porty, then I urge you to consider tank size as one of the most important factors in making your decision. If it's a hobby, or if you are the only employee your company will ever have and you don't care how long or hard you work, ignore my advice. Happiness is based upon perceptions, not the facts. |
watchman wrote:Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 28/November/2008 at 10:54am
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friendly... the 1003hv is identical to the 1005 dx except the 1003 hv has heat. as I am keyboarding this I am looking at a blow up scetch of this machine. From the primer switch at the bottom there is a hose that goes to the solution tank and a note written beside that reads. quote: If pressure builds up too high the valve allows water to return to the solution tank. end quote ... maybe mytee made changes in the last 3 years since I purchased this machine but that change wouln't make sense. If you would like to see this info send me a fax # and i'll fax you this document. As far as the universal booster is concerned I purchased this from steambrite last august. It's not manufactured by mytee. the vac booster is a 3 stg vac and screws onto the top of any machine with the screw on lid such as the mytee, diamond back and others. go into the steambrite website and you can see it there. search for "universal booster". ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 28/November/2008 at 4:23pm
The 1003 I have is less than a year old. Like I said, try one out if you don't believe me. The lower the psi you set the thing at, the faster it pumps water into the recovery tank. http://mytee.com/data/1003DX/1003DX-PartsList.pdf - http://mytee.com/data/1003DX/1003DX-PartsList.pdf
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 28/November/2008 at 8:08pm
#48 from the pump to vac tank (wastetank).. I ran 3 portys that were 10gal solution tanks for yrs.. What a pain in the neck filling dumping all the time.. Got the bigger Recoil unit and not as much of a pain in the neck.. The bigger tanks will increase production time like FH said.. 
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Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 29/November/2008 at 4:08pm
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mytee = 12 gal solution tank
#48 = cord strain relief fitting
#32 = hose from prime to solution tank
absolutly no connection between solution and dirty water tank on the mytee
1003 hv. they changed the name of this porty the following year after I purchased it to 1003 dx. It appears they made internal changes as well. ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 29/November/2008 at 7:08pm
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autofill and auto dump are da bomb ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 29/November/2008 at 7:12pm
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I have a Mytee M-5 made for Greenglides
it's an awesome porty
and with autofill and dump all the water winds up in the toilet so I don't have to worry ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 29/November/2008 at 7:25pm
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#48 adapter, brass, 1/4" sw barb x 1/4" fpt, w/gasket goes into vac tank. #51 sol hose, 1/4" kuri 150psi to vac tank from pump unloader valve? Is it dumping water?
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 29/November/2008 at 8:23pm
| The 1003DX new design was designed by someone who doesn't like carpet cleaners. You can actually fill the vac tank with water in a few minutes by turning the psi to 100-200 and never use the wand. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 29/November/2008 at 9:22pm
Who does he like?
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 29/November/2008 at 10:24pm
| Kenny. |
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 01/December/2008 at 9:03am
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Master Steam Clean;
IMHO, there are hugh differences in both systems that really matter to someone when they are laboring day in and day out.
I personally feel that it is not my duty or is it an honorable thing to do, to point out on a public board any negatives (IMO) that someone else has on their unit---because I really do not care to be honest;rather I would highly suggest that you contact myself and I will be glad to spend as much time on the phone with you required to explain ALL the differences........and WHY they are (or should be) important to you both as a buyer...and as an Operator. This system is very well designed and built way above any other generic machine, period.
(Call me, Beats pounding the key board!!!-LOL)
And, oh, btw, the RECOIL-3XPS actually gets 500 (+) psi with great flow. BIG DIfference.
Hope to hear from you!
Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.
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Posted By: MASTER STEAM CLEAN
Date Posted: 06/December/2008 at 10:29pm
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I wish you would comment on maybe one or two things you might disagree with with machine. I believe you know what your taling about , you cant voice your opinion on a fact that might be tru of the competitors. If you say something others will chime in backing you if a statement is tru.
I was commenting on both have 2/3 2inch out let mytee has lil bit more vac units 37,500 put a universal booster 5.7 domel and you a mytee that run 100 -150 ft about the same lift 127 i believe. The mytee appears to be a 1000 cheaper . And mytee is a good product as well .Now I jave done research and have only found maybe 20 negative comments on recoil but Ed your Custy service is the shizle meaning 100% in my book,But mytee sells more and with more units out there more complaints and more broken parts.
Unless Ed shares some insight other than the his unit being be built a lil bit better ,it appears that mytee is side by side besides the extra 50 psi pump.
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 07/December/2008 at 3:36am
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Mytee sells for less because it has set its sights on those with little experience and even less cash in the bank. Ed sells to people who, well lets say, have learned that the difference between an Impala and a Cadillac is more than price but price is what makes a Caddie the choice between these two options among those who can afford to make the choice. It's a status statement that says you are heads above the other guys. Both Ed and the folks at Mytee have their model of the ideal customer which are clearly not the same. Both have high customer satisfaction levels. Not saying those are equal, just that it is obvious from the fact that both are still in business and doing well. ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 07/December/2008 at 3:45am
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I am beginning to think Master Steam Cleaner is a Mytee plant. If he truly wanted to know what makes the Recoil superior he could pick up a phone and call Ed. Obviously he has no intentions to learn anything useful. And since I have a Mytee I can tell you they aren't all that great and I am speaking from experience MSC. But they will do in a pinch. And they make great anchors and paperweights. Try one. They are powerful enough to do car detailing too. The Rug Doctor takes second place to the Mytee extractors. I didn't call them junk, just eluded to it and may I point out their vac booster can't work with heated units. Nuff said. ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 07/December/2008 at 7:49pm
You're joking, right? Did you read anything I said?
1. Bigger tanks,
2. Doesn't pump clean water from the clean tank into the dirty tank 100% of the time the pump is on, regardless of whether or not you are using the wand. (Turn the pump on the Mytee to 200 psi to do upholstery and the recovery tank will be full in 10 mintues without having ever used the wand. It is uesless for that purpose.)
3. Can easily be modified to autofill.
I know which one an informed professional would pick. I know which one a non-professional would pick. They aren't the same ones.
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 08/December/2008 at 3:55am
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One more thing. I DARE anyone to try to prove what I said about the Mytee is false. What the hell are you waiting for? Other than coming here to ask the same questions over and over again, do you have the balls to even go check it out? If not, you deserve what's coming to you.
I've tried to spare you the pain. The knife in now in your hands. Use it to divide truth from lies, or use it on yourself.
(LOL! I love talking tough
 How'd I do?) |
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 08/December/2008 at 8:45am
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I thank FriendlyHammer for his insightful comments and truth.
There are a world of differences between both systems. Just like the difference between Carpet Cleaning prices of $4.95 per room, or $24.95 per room. More customers may be sold on "price" rather than those sold on "the right reasons" & results.
I am here at the Plant until 3pm (MI time zone), and am willing to help answer any and all questions you may have because I realize thru experience myself (back in '71) that one does not want to make a mistake at this point.
Anyways,
Happy Holidays and I hope to hear from you!
Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 09/December/2008 at 1:17am
Glad I wore brown pants today  ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 09/December/2008 at 12:45pm
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 12/December/2008 at 1:08pm
I was thinking the same thing.. Like maybe alias John Labarbara..
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 12/December/2008 at 2:16pm
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Yep ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 12/December/2008 at 3:42pm
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So that makes three of us agreeing on something? Do we have a quorum?
------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: jcdsog
Date Posted: 22/February/2009 at 11:03pm
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i have a 1003dx. the solution only flows to the recovery tank when the prime lever is pressed. the pressure regulator circulates usused pressure back in the solution tank. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 23/February/2009 at 12:27am
| What are your dry times? 8-24hrs?............. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 23/February/2009 at 12:55am
Nah, stick your hand down into the tank and put your finger over the outlet. Water is always coming out of it. You either run your pump at top pressure and haven't noticed it because it is small, or you haven't ever run your pump at lower pressures on a job and seen it flood the tank.
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 26/February/2009 at 1:18am
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Oh yeah, one more detail about this nasty 1003/1005 machine: The release valve is not the farthest point out on the machine. The large wheels on the back of the machine actually stick out 2 or 3 inches farther than the release valve's spout.
So, as you can guess, if you back the thing up to a ground-level sink (the most common type in the US), you end up dumping a lot of water on the ground in front of the sink. Duh!
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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 28/February/2009 at 10:31pm
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if you're gonna look at a Mytee,,,,,,,,,,,,LOOK AT THE M-5 IT KICKS A$$ 15 or 16 gal. tanks I can't remember,,,,,,,I almost always use auto fill auto dump and the vac is more than adequate for a porty nothing against Ed's machine though,,,I have a close friend in Vancouver that has one and he is quite pleased with his . I actually like being a P.O.G.,,,,I'm getting my old customers back from when I had a TM and they just don't care what I use and if they do,,,,,,,,,,,they don't anymore after doing the same quality work with a porty with the same dry times
I also recommend the Mytee hotbox inline heater,,,,,,keeps the water nice and toasty.
If you wanna do LOOOONNNNG hose runs off a porty get one of Ed's boosters.
personally I just roll the machine closer.
I don't like losing vac,,,,,,,,,but @100ft. the M-5 does a great job only drawback I find is it's pretty friggin heavy ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/March/2009 at 7:57pm
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Andy hows life been treating you? good to see you are still kickin. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 02/March/2009 at 11:48am
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I agree with John L;
"Something really stinks here with master cleaner & his strategy!"
Ed Valentine
"Super-Charged" Systems
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 02/March/2009 at 12:23pm
Someone better clean the wastetank out..
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