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Topic: red wine white wine?
Posted By: terry
Subject: red wine white wine?
Date Posted: 20/September/2004 at 10:02pm
Could somebody pls tell why white wine will take out red?
Thanks Terry



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Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 21/September/2004 at 6:36am
I've not heard this one.  Have you just picked up a rumour, or have you tried it?

All red wines have different amounts of tannin in them.  I imagine that in white wines, some are more acidic then others.

This 'white takes out red' pholosophy doesn't SOUND like it will work... but stranger things happen.

Is it supposed to be when the spill is fresh?  That would make a bit more sense...

I'm buying a bottle of good Barossa Valley red tomorrow.  Cab Sav, or Shiraz?  I'll go the Cab Sav.  Then I'm going to pick a nice dry white from the Southern Vales of South Australia.

Then, ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna drink them.

Will someone spill some on the carpet & see if it works?  I'll toast your experiment.

-Allen


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 22/September/2004 at 1:37pm
something too do with the bubbles... it's the bubles.... soda does it too... anything white and has been carbonated


Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 22/September/2004 at 3:44pm
So Champagne, and not white wine? Last time I checked... white wine did not have bubbles.  I'll check again though.  I've heard the 'soda water' thing.

How does that work?

Oxidisation Lite?

I did buy a bottle of red & up-ended about a third of the bottle on some of my samples, then I upended the rest into my gullet & was unable to drive down to pick up a white.

Allen


Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 23/September/2004 at 7:14pm

Funny Allen but I can't believe you wasted a third of the bottle. Couldn't you of just used a few drops.

It's easy to see you were drinking alone. 



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Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 24/September/2004 at 1:41am
I also had a couple of beers to keep me company.

!!!
Allen



Posted By: terry
Date Posted: 24/September/2004 at 11:40pm
THANKS GUYS FOR ALL THE HELP.


I will go some place that people might help me.
TALK THE TALK . B.S .I'LL GO MAED MONEY.


Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 25/September/2004 at 12:16am

I believe Terry that Steamer and Allen gave you an explanation as best as they could to your question.

How many different answers would you have preferred. There is a post in the archives on home remedies maybe you could find your answer there. That is if you have the time after you make your money. 



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Posted By: terry
Date Posted: 25/September/2004 at 12:31am
Adwa .
Home remeedies is not what i'm looking for .

Next time i'm at a client i'll tell them to try a home remedy on the

carpet.

gut


Posted By: terry
Date Posted: 25/September/2004 at 1:10am
Just one.
The one that tells me why?????????

thanks A


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 25/September/2004 at 8:18am
Terry:  I would help you out if I could out which way you came in.  The probem if people don't understand the question.  How the hell are they gong to understand the answer????????????Guitar

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Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 25/September/2004 at 4:15pm
terry,

You asked about why white wine will take out red wine.


You didn't tell us why you wanted to know (ie: is a customer asking you? Do you want a valid reason to keep wine in your truck? You tried it and were surprised? You tried it and it didn't work and you want to know why? Or you just heard about it and were too lazy to try it yourself?

So: did you try it?  You tell me if it works.  If you want me to do your field research, then I charge for that service.  Cost: 2 botttles of wine + $100.00 per hour for trial time + $50 for converting observations into a special report for you.  You should be able to get out of this with spending less then $450.

Want a cheaper option?:

Give me the material safety data sheet for the wines in question, the type of carpet, and the length of time the wine has been on the carpet, and I'll make a reasonable theory about why it will work.

Want a better option?

Get 1 x bottle red wine + 1x bottle white wine + 1 x carpet.

-Allen


Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 25/September/2004 at 4:45pm

Terry,

In spotting you always fight fire with fire. What this means is if you have an oil spill you dissolve the oil in another type of oil being your spotting chemical of choice. Water generally will not remove oil and oil will generally not remove water stains.

So wine dissolves wine.

Enough invisible white wine will dilute the red wine and soak it to the back of the carpet and out of sight.

So the solution to pollution is dilution.

If you believe this you will believe anything. Who knows, stranger things have happened.



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Posted By: terry
Date Posted: 26/September/2004 at 12:01am
Thanks Ted ,


Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 27/September/2004 at 2:13pm

Terry,

Red Wine and White Wine...

Somebody just had to meet the challenge.

http://www.kleenkuip.com/products/proxi.htm">Proxi Stain Remover and Deodorizer for Carpet and Upholstery

I have removed the Red Wine with http://www.kleenkuip.com/products/proxi.htm - Proxi and drank the remainder of both the red and white wine.

Who the hell wants to tell their customers that white wine will work. Then they won't need you. Looks like you need http://www.kleenkuip.com/products/proxi.htm - Proxi for this job. Does anyone smell a subliminal advertisement? I can't tell as I am too pissed and still seeing spots.

P.S. Next Day
I think it still may work because when I relieve myself it was kinda white.



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Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 27/September/2004 at 6:20pm
Alright,

So I ended up doing the test:

Approx 1 oz Shiraz upended on a Nylon carpet and left to dry for 3 days. Wine had penetrated the backing.

Treated part of stain with a Chardonnay: applied to white towel (as you would a 'spotter).  Transfer of colour through two applications.  Third showed no transfer, so I saturated part of the stain, left 10 minutes.  No further transfer of colour, stain about 75% faded.

Treated part of stain with Demineralized Water using above method.  Simular results with simular effort.

Treated remainder of stain with a neutral spotter.  One application got the whole doggone thing out.

Due to variations in wine, carpet, and product, your milage may vary.

My opinion? White wine did no more or less then water in reducing the stain in this instance.

-Allen


Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 27/September/2004 at 6:27pm

Good effort Allen. 

You know Ted didn't even offer me a drink. Maybe we should do a enzyme test of his stomach, I wonder which bottle knocked off each other down there.



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/September/2004 at 2:03pm
Adwa you know that Red wine goes to your head


Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 28/September/2004 at 6:20pm
But if you drink the champagne REALLY REALLY fast, the bubbles won't make you burp!

Hey Terry, did you end up doing the experiment as well?

What did you find?

Just wondering...

Allen


Posted By: terry
Date Posted: 28/September/2004 at 9:06pm
Ted never drink alone .


Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 30/September/2004 at 11:37am

Here is the answer in a very short video

http://www.kleenkuip.com/products/redwine_whitewine.htm - Click here for video



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Posted By: greg
Date Posted: 30/September/2004 at 8:26pm
proxy, spray and walk away. i love the stuff. i wouldn't drink it though.

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Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 01/October/2004 at 1:48pm

Hi greg,

I like your slogan - I will use it

Proxi Spray & Walk Away

Glad to see you like it.



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Posted By: greg
Date Posted: 01/October/2004 at 5:45pm

do you think i should charge him for that slogan steamer.lol don't give nothingaway right.. and for the record i've had clients tell me they use white wine on red wine, but as soon as the stain occurs, not after it dries.



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Posted By: greg
Date Posted: 01/October/2004 at 5:46pm
lol thanks ted.....and no charge.

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Posted By: ollie
Date Posted: 15/March/2005 at 12:40am

Ted

Try this, go down to a wine makeing shop and ask for Potassium Metabisulphite. Put 1 or 2 tbs in a small spray bottle with water.Spray the area, blot and watch what happens. It's used to clean the used wine bottles.I have used it on carpets and Upholstery. It cost around  $5.00,the stain will disappear.

Ollie




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