What will kill you faster?

Drinking a bottle of booze per day or cleaning with Butyl?

I guess that depends if you want to add fun to your life or years to your life...or vice versa.

There is a law covering the use of benzene in Ontario

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/Regs/English/900839_e.htm

I bet I'm paying less than you for the same sh*t LOL

cleanex wrote: DFC 105 purchases June/ 2005   15 cases May/2005     10 cases April/2005     10 cases March/2005   10 cases Feb/2005      10 cases Jan/2005       10 cases  That is 65 cases so far in 2005, will not post invoices as it is no bodies business but mine as what I pay for products. Don Eldred

]]> Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:31:10 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1662&PID=40859&title=jim-darling-vs-butyl-cellosolve#40859 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1662&PID=40855&title=jim-darling-vs-butyl-cellosolve#40855 Author: nightrider
Subject: 1662
Posted: 27/June/2005 at 2:58pm

HERE ARE FACTS REGARDING BENEZENE AND THE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE CONSIDERED HIGH RISK AND OR DANGEROUS.

Benzene is a colorless and flammable chemical that is processed from crude oil. Benzene forms into vapors that may cause headaches, nausea, dizziness, drowsiness and confusion. Government authorities have known of its toxic effects for some time and its use is tightly regulated. .

Scientific evidence suggests benzene exposure is related to many forms of leukemia:

Long-term exposure to benzene vapors may cause leukemia or cancer of the lymph nodes.

Millions of workers are exposed to benzene, and the use of benzene has been banned for years, but some related benzene chemicals are still in use and expose workers. Benzene vapors could be breathed or absorbed through the skin. Typically, leukemia may be caused by years of exposure or very heavy exposure.

Dangerous occupations

w pharmaceuticals plants
w manufacturers of benzene or benzene products
w chemical labs (such as universities or commercial laboratories)
w oil refineries
w chemical and petrochemical plants
w pesticide manufacturing
w printing
w gasoline distribution
w working on oil tankers
w pulp and paper manufacturing
w wood stain and varnish manufacturing
w rubber production
w manufacture of adhesive


Sources of Benzene Exposure, Fumes from:

w oil/coal burning
w automobile exhaust
w industrial solvents
w gasoline stations
w painting

BRING ON ALL THE LAWYERS YOU CAN THROW AT ME, WHAT I SAID IS TRUE AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

JIM I THOUGHT YOU WERE SO MUCH A " GREEN CLEAN " KIND OF GUY, DID SOMEONE CHANGE THE FLAVOUR OF THE WEEK OR DID YOU JUST CHANGE THE MUSIC.

DON , YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SEND BACK ALL THE D.F.C, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE BACK TO THE NASTY STUFF AGAIN.

                                           NIGHTRIDER

It's all about CONTROL & DOMINATION ...Most of the time they have their

Don, you are certainly a funny man. Me to I bought 200 cases from Ted but I don't want to show what I paid for it.

Why don't you make a photo copy, cut out or black out the price, just come clean with everyone here on the Kleenkuip site, put your money where your mouth is, show us all that you really use it.........do it just for the health of it

                                 Nightrider

Nightrider

Maybe you forgot about Charlie Huskilson. In 1986 he was the lead front man for DuPont when they introduced Stainmaster Carpets. He died from cancer (directly related to benzene.) Back then we knew nothing about the inherent risks. Today we know more

We use no dyes with benzene. There are too many different kinds of dyes for you and me to understand. I do know that ours are based on metalic salts except for our bowl and bath products which contain food dyes.

Whether you want to spin it your way or i want to spin it mine we can both accomplish the task

I would however, be careful on what you say publicly. To say all of the things that you said above about benzene are just not true. You never really know which litigator is watching this bulletin board ready to pounce. 

I am sure that we can both agree that we have different views on this matter and whenever you are in Toronto come on by for your coffee

DFC 105 purchases

June/ 2005   15 cases

May/2005     10 cases

April/2005     10 cases

March/2005   10 cases

Feb/2005      10 cases

Jan/2005       10 cases 

That is 65 cases so far in 2005, will not post invoices as it is no bodies business but mine as what I pay for products.

Don Eldred

Thanks for the interesting reading ( nothing I didn't know already ) To all those who read it, what was your conclusion, still no mention of being banned,,,,,,,,,,,just afew fancy words like " Risk management "

Benzene:

It is a known bone-marrow poison, yet is widely used in combined with other chemicals in many personal care products, such as make up , hand cream,face masks, etc etc Causes adverse reactions, is carcinogenic, mutagenic and toxic.

  Here is a typical list on a jar of common hand cream: Water, - Stearic Acid, - Sorbitol, - Glycerin, - C-12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, - Sodium Borate - TEA, - Cetyl Alcohol, - Dimethicone, - Aloe Vera, - Phenoxyethanol, - Propylene Glycol, - Quince Extract, - Tocopheryl Acetate, - Potassium Sorbate, - EDTA, - Allantoin, - Methyl Paraben, - Propyl Paraben, - Butyl Paraben, - Menthol

Jim Darling, you surprise me. A man with your common sence and vast knowledge surely knows that the dose does make the poison. I hope you appreciate that fact the next time you are prescribed a drug from your doctor. Just by a fraction of a ml he can cure you or kill you.

Jim are you really that concerned about Butyl, or did you just lose out on some of Dow Chemical Company Stock Options.

Why don't you pick on and talk about Benzene which I am sure you use plenty of in your other products. Benzene unlike Butyl actually has lawsuits against the company and millions of dollars have already been paid out as proof of its hazards to humans.

Here's what Jim Darling is not telling you.

Do any of you dye carpets     ( Benzene is in dye )

Do any of you wash your clothes ( There's Benezen in it )

Do any of you at time take drugs & or prescription drugs ( you got it, contains Benezene )

Do any of you clean or have carpets in your house ( What a mistake you are breathing Benezene, and when your kids play on the carpet it enters the body by the friction of the skin )

Do you paint your house, that's right .........direct contact with Benzene.

Does your wife or you guys wear nylons, you have just been introduced to benezene

You guys wear condoms sometimes, not a good idea, mayby that's why your d**k gets soft so fast, you have just been exposed to benezene

Next time you fill up with gaz, that nice smell you like to take a sniff of every so often contains Benezene

I can go on all day, but I have other things to do

                               Nightrider.

That there is some interesting reading..............................

for Einstein.

Bottom line,

its nasty to humans when absorbed through the skin, not the air.