Jim Darling says Chemspec does not make Encap products. Maybe he is too modest to say they have been Encaping carpets for years with their Formula 161 soil retardant carpet shampoo with biosolve.

They just never called it Encap.

diamondbrian,

I appreciate your reply and yes I do believe that the older technology is passing by once again discussed as Encap. But what I see with Encap on large jobs with the proper equipment makes my eyes bulge out.

Have you looked at the new Enviro and Safer Healthier Products. It's only a matter of time before you will be faced with using them as many of our toxic raw materials are becoming scarce. They are also great marketing tools and as you can see this DFC is very, very inexpensive to use.

DB - we do not make an "encapsulation" product but you may find this tidbit interesting

Two years ago a major carpet mill purchased deodorizers from a US Distributor. They were trying to find a product that would eliminate mal-odor incontinent issues at health care facilities where this mill has sold carpet. Kill Odor Plus won out. Through this mill’s research they found Kill Odor Plus encapsulates without using polymers, and is an excellent pre-spray cleaner. Further testing at Professional Testing Labs certified Kill Odor Plus not only as a pre-spray but also as a spotter.

To receive the Seal of Approval for spotting and pre-spray from the Carpet and Rug Institute a product must successfully remove mustard, Ketchup, coffee, grape juice, black marker, chocolate syrup, dirty motor oil and soil. In addition the product can not contribute to re-soiling, change the color light fastness, have a pH no less than 4 nor be greater than pH 10 and can not contain optical brighteners. Kill Odor Plus has received the CRI Seal of Approval as a spotter / pre-spray product.

Jim--I appreciate your opinion.  Your right to some degree about the msds sheets; even those completed properly do not tell the whole story.  I find the logic in my previous post to be flawed and stand corrected.  If you have an encapsulation cleaner that is getting you better results than an absorbent bonnet cleaner, then more power to you.  I personally avoid bonnet cleaning like the plague (as many carpet manufacturers recommend), instead preferring to apply and extract with a Certified Pile Lifter.  I haven't been able to notice an appreciable difference in the absorbent and encapsulation.  I guess that is where I am coming from.   

jEFF

In almost every case what causes any product to have a questionable residue are the surfactants and detrgents that are incorporated into todays modern cleaners.

All DFC products have no surfactants at all AND THIS EXPLAINS WHY cLEANEX IS NOT HAVING ANY ISSUES WHATSOEVER WITH RESOILING

pilediver wrote: 15.95 per gallon?!; is that Canadian.  I just paid 21.64 a gallon at Westclean.

Pilediver

We are Introducing DFC into the market with a great reduction price to get it off the ground and into the field.  When we sell this product we make it a point to phone the customer back for their comments and satisfaction.

Regular Pricing will be in effect starting May 1st. 

Anyone know what  kind of residue the new heavy duty DFC leaves?

I understand the residue will be safe but what about soil attracting?

I read about some using the DFC 105 and the 210 like an encapsulator, so I assume the residue on the 105 and 210 dry completely and do not attract soil, so what about the Heavy Duty DFC?

Also what's the pH?

DB - That is interesting. i probably do not disagree with you at all in terms of the marketing driven technology. I have never seen a good msds on these products as they tell you nothing about them. They do, however, use polymer or acrylic technology in most products.

We manufacture 2 different bonnet / pad solutions. One is totally non residual, the other contains what imost  consider to be a carpet protector and so the residual is extremely crisp and hard.

This makes them very different (at least in our case). The new DFC technology only incoprporates food approved ingredients and provide some very interesting results