etseam elite or pro cheam preformer
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Topic: etseam elite or pro cheam preformer
Posted By: ezebill
Subject: etseam elite or pro cheam preformer
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 12:46am
| hi i'am new and looking to buy a Prochem Preformer with a 4 cylinder nissan slide in unit or a used pto drive Esteam Elite can some of you guys tell me which is a better unit thanks i will await your reply's |
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 7:40am
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slide in better owner operator
pto better for employee's ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: HeartlandSteam
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 12:00pm
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I cant say which is a better machine, all I can say is that before I started my own company I worked with a performer for a couple of years and loved it. It was one that had a digital read out, it was great. I dont think they make them anymore though
------------- http://www.heartlandsteamcleaning.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 12:29pm
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I think if you want lots of heat and good recovery and dry times the Performer is a good solid unit. You will need a 1 ton van and nothing smaller to handle it. I am not too knowledgablwe with esteam products. I don't like the idea of a used pto?? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 1:37pm
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PTO's performance is best when buying a new truck, because the vehicles engine is what drives it. If the average is say 5 years per engine, why would you want to buy one that had 3 years already on it? You would be close to the time you would need to spend near $5000 for an engine rebuild, eh?
------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 3:55pm
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Good point SGK? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: HeartlandSteam
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 5:36pm
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A 3/4 ton would be fine, but ideally a 1 ton would be better. You can get decent used 3/4 ton van for like 10 grand
------------- http://www.heartlandsteamcleaning.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 7:29pm
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People will just never learn when it comes to having the proper van to do the job needed. If you are running a small unit like a blazer or the likes a 3/4 ton is adaquate. But with a performer you either need a water softener or carry your own water at least a 100 gallons min. If you go 3/4 ton be prepared to spend your extra money on constant repairs from being over loaded. Save alittle now pay alot later? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: HeartlandSteam
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 8:02pm
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Well, i worked in a 3/4 ton for 5 years and never had problems. I mistyped earlier too, i was working with a performer, not the blazer...which is actually a bigger machine. A 3/4 ton is fine as long as its extended
------------- http://www.heartlandsteamcleaning.com |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 9:37pm
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3/4 ton is no good........if you get by...thats all it it getting by....if you carry fresh water at all you need a 1 ton....end of story ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 10:30pm
I have two 3/4 ton vans with fresh water tanks. Never had a problem with suspension, brakes, u-joints, etc from excessive weight. Just my personal experience.
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Posted By: HeartlandSteam
Date Posted: 19/September/2006 at 10:40pm
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yea, not only did I work in a 3/4 with fresh water for five years, i own and operate out of one now and have never had probs. Dunno who told you a 3/4 is no good, it seems you have been misinformed...heh, end of story :D ------------- http://www.heartlandsteamcleaning.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/September/2006 at 7:21am
That is because you have cd's and not a slide in. ------------- Just My opinion |
cmaster wrote:Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/September/2006 at 7:22am
Only all the people who try and get by with a 3/4 ton? I tried I guess if you think you know it all more power to you? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: HeartlandSteam
Date Posted: 20/September/2006 at 7:31am
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im not saying I know all...that is the entire reason I came to this forum, to learn off everyone elses experience, and im just trying to share mine, geez.
------------- http://www.heartlandsteamcleaning.com |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 20/September/2006 at 8:16am
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I have a pto... in a 3/4... would never do that again.... 1 ton all the way
and cmaster we have all read about your problems...change this change that...why do you think that is????
3/4 ton thats why...
why take the chance...do it right the first time. 1 ton is recommended for any carpet cleaning unit...
if you carring fresh water 100 gallons weighs 1 ton...that alone is over loading the truck.... ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/September/2006 at 8:33am
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The blower, shaft and the fuel pump have nothing to do with the weight of the vehicle
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 20/September/2006 at 12:24pm
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you might think not so...lol ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: ezebill
Date Posted: 20/September/2006 at 11:54pm
| Thank you to all who replied to my question regarding Pro Chem or Esteam you were very helpfull |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 22/September/2006 at 3:48pm
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I've actually had less suspension problems with my 3/4 than my 1 tonne but I think it has more to do with newer vans being built wimpy. both my Prochem and my Cleanco have been good to me so it's a toss up. i just like the idea of not wearing out the van with the Prochem
------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 28/September/2006 at 10:42pm
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