Conversion chart
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Topic: Conversion chart
Posted By: bryan
Subject: Conversion chart
Date Posted: 22/March/2007 at 11:54pm
Any one know of a good conversion chart that converts how much chemical you use for a Hydro-force with a 1.8 metering tip. Most chemical well tell you how much you mix to a gallon then you have to do the math for the conversion. A cheat sheet would be nice  . Like if you mix a chemical to (1.21) ratio with one dry oz to gallon of water. How much is needed in Hydro-force 7quart with 1.8 tip.
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Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 23/March/2007 at 8:55am
You got the wrong tool bro!
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bryan wrote:Posted By: wheelerman
Date Posted: 23/March/2007 at 1:07pm
| Anyone that doesnt use a hyrdo-force to presray carpet is truly crazy!!!! |
Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 23/March/2007 at 1:09pm
| That looks cool who makes that? I can see Spraymate and have found the tool for around $275 but cant find the manufacture. Do they have a battery powered one? Is there a know to adjust mixture or are you using tips? Not big on electric sprayers. |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 23/March/2007 at 2:46pm
A LOT of crazy mofo's in Toronto.
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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 23/March/2007 at 5:32pm
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Bryan........Ted has a chart for the older Hydro Force sprayer that uses metering tips. Pm him your fax number if you have one and if this is the information that you are looking for. ------------- The Following Statements do not Necessarily Reflect the Views of this Forum Network http://www.kleenkuip.com - http://www.kleenkuip.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/March/2007 at 9:19am
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The older ones were the only ones that worked?? Spraymaster's are junk?? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 24/March/2007 at 10:44am
| spray master is junk or spray-mate? |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 24/March/2007 at 5:16pm
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Spraymaster won't lay enought down efficiently to be used for prespay. It would be good for protectant.
Tip Size Chart HYDRAFORCE METERING TIPS TIP COLOR 1 PART SOLUTION TO ( ) PARTS WATER OZ OF SOLUTION PER GALLON OF WATER NO TIP 4 – 1 32 OZ GREY 5 – 1 26 OZ BLACK 6 – 1 21 OZ YELLOW 8 –1 16 OZ BLUE 10 – 1 13 OZ WHITE 16 – 1 8 OZ BROWN 32 – 1 4 OZ ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: wheelerman
Date Posted: 25/March/2007 at 12:57am
| Prespraying carpet with a pump up sprayer is like unzipping your pants and pulling it out and pissing on the carpet....I am sure you would get more presure from it than the pump up. The hydro-force applys the prespray evenly and makes it penitrate the fibre all the way. |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 9:27am
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You will notice when people post pictures of sprayers and equipment and they are referred to by the people 'in-the-know' as junk. These items are not generally sold by KK. Years ago I sold junk and it always came back to bite me in the you know where.
It just takes time for people to realize that paying the quality price is generally the best long-term deal. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 12:11pm
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In other words the I think the Carpetologist suggests you buy a Hydraforce. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: steamerguy
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 12:40pm
| please explain how it works with a portable. |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 12:57pm
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There is a model available that is called a low pressure hydraforce. I use one with my Ninja portable.
This is the model:Revolution® Low Pressure Injection Sprayer Low Pressure 50-250 psi Item # AS12R http://www.hydroforce.com/spray_inj.html Call Ted at KleenKwip and he can set you up! (416) 429-0401 ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: steamerguy
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 2:47pm
| what if you have chems in your Ninja? |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 2:48pm
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What kind of chemicals? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 4:04pm
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Posted By: steamerguy
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 4:17pm
Extraction Chemicals
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 4:51pm
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I would lay down prespray an maybe use an acid rinse concentrate or a small amount of emulsifier in the machine. Let the prespray do the work not so much the solution in the machine. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: steamerguy
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 4:59pm
| but if there is juice in the portable is it not now being run through the hydro as well because you are getting your water from your portable. |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 5:02pm
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Yes thats true but I don't think it makes a lot of difference. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 9:33pm
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Why don't you just prespray first then add your emulsifier to your tank?? ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 26/March/2007 at 9:35pm
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Yeah what the Hammy said. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 31/March/2007 at 9:45pm
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Ya I have a hydro-force, I agree thats is the only way to go. Question was not so much tip size, I am also aware of this. I would like to be able to use my 1.8 tip all the time seeing that most my chems ask for this dilution. Was i was asking was if you want to have a set tip in my case 1.8 with out switching, you would have to mix the chem in different oz to make up for the dilution of the HF. Most pre-srays have the mixture for a gallon RTU. Was wondering if some one had a conversion chart or cheet sheet that they made that would convert that to HF settings. Like I sad in my example if you have a pre-spray that mixes 1.21 or 1 powered oz to the gallon, how many oz would you need for a HF with a 1.8 tip in it, to get to the proper 1.21 dilution ratio. You can do the math on this and this is may be what I have to do and make my own cheat sheet. Was just wondering if someone has already done the math due to the popularity of the HF. |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 31/March/2007 at 10:02pm
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Dilution Ration Oz. Per Gal
1 to 4 32 1 to 5 26 1 to 10 12 1 to 12 10 1 to 15 8 1 to 20 6 1 to 32 4 1 to 40 3 1 to 50 2.5 1 to 60 2 1 to 64 2 1 to 100 1 1 to 128 1 1 to 256 .5 ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 31/March/2007 at 10:05pm
| Again I under stand how to mix up to a gallon. Most chemicals say how much you mix up to a gallon. How much do you mix to HF with 1.8 tip. Look at my example how many oz do you need in HF with 5 quart container to get to 1.21. |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 31/March/2007 at 10:21pm
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Take the chart above and take the figure on the left and devide 6 (1:20dilution) by 8 (1:8tip) for 1 gallon imperial gallon (5 quarts US - 1 Imperial-Canadian gallon)- .75 oz
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Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 31/March/2007 at 10:26pm
| Not following what you are saying, are you saying 6 / 8? If so that not right. |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 31/March/2007 at 11:11pm
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I will try and find a chart - they do exist. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 10:01am
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steamerguy, your using hydoforce and also putting down your emulsifier.. A waste of emulsifier and money and you'll have to fill more often...
SOLUTION: You can get a valve that redirects the pump pressure.. By adding another pressure hose to the valves disconnect then you will insert the other end in a 5gal jug of your prespray. This will suck prespray to your hydro.. turn the valve knob and it sucks from your solution tank...
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Look at the bottom of your solution tank.. see that filter... add 3ft of solution hose to that... Set your 5gal prespray jug next to your machine.. Insert that added 3ft into the jug...
When you start extracting remember to replace hose back in your solution tank...
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 1:16pm
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Interesting. Never heard the one of working off the solution meter before. To make that work that woud then depend on how you adjusted the metering valve for this second tank with pre spray on it. Also you would have to have a separate wand for that and propably turn down the pressure on the pump for the prespray. I run at 450 psi most of the time. As you allready know, pressure washer tips come in different gallons per minute versions as well as spray pattern. What tip would you use and typically what pressure would you use.
This does seem to be more work than its worth on some levels but I can see some advantage to having a large supply of pre-mixed prespray on the ready. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 1:22pm
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I have never seen so much bull s*it regarding hf sprayers than this. For christ sake email hf that is if they even know what the hell you want? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 1:28pm
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It looks like a lot of work. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 2:36pm
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Well get on it then ------------- 
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 2:47pm
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Just make something up?? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 3:46pm
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SGG can give you some ideas for that -------------
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 4:17pm
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Thats the fastest way to prespay with a porty by using the porty pump but you want to bypass the solution tank... the hose that goes to your sol.tank comes from the pump, just add extention and slip in your prespray jug.. If you've never owed a porty you probably wont understand all i posted.....OH WELL!!! Theres no faster way than the 2 ways i mentioned.. Get your wrenches out and modify...
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 5:24pm
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I use a LP hydraforce on my porty. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 6:47pm
That sounds easier  -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 7:34pm
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The only portys I use are upholstery machines ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 9:13pm
You don't use your tm for upholstery?  -------------
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