MR. STEAMER wrote: doug wrote:  You have the bait and switch people Sears & the Bay etc.  HEY HEY WAIT JUST ONE MINUTE!!!!!! What bait and switch are you talking about...choose your words carefully before you use them.  We are all here to make money.

This was the post that started it all....and because doug had the IICRC avatar I attacked him and the IICRC.  I was upset how could he say such a thing.

doug wrote:  You have the bait and switch people Sears & the Bay etc.

HEY HEY WAIT JUST ONE MINUTE!!!!!!

What bait and switch are you talking about...choose your words carefully before you use them.  We are all here to make money.

Doug I clean by truckmount, portable, rotary scrubber, bonnet, oscillating pad, dry compound, encapsulation, foam clean and have at least 10 different presprays.

Luckily I don't clean much broadloom these days, mostly area rugs.

Mr Researcher,

The machines at the store put out the cleaning solution at 32-55PSI.

Our weakest portable machine starts at 100PSI, the weakest.

The amount of suction the machines have are dependent on the waterlift and CFM  of the machine. The vacs in the DIY machines are dinky toys even next to the weakest machines of a pro again. Compound this with the havoc that is raised by the foam from the chemicals that are sold by the equipment rental facility. Why is it that all DIYers must buy defoamer?? Its so the machine won't bog down or get ruined , thats why.

Now to the chemicals, what kind of soiling do you have on the carpet??

We carry different solutions for different fiber types and soilings.

You try to simplify this issue to a point where you sound silly.

Let me ask you sir, do you wash your wool sweater, rayon dress shirt , nylon jacket, blue jeans and white cotton T-shirt all the same way?

Well this is what you are suggesting by the DIYers being able to do an adequate job without a certain amount of knowledge and experience.

If carpet cleaners are not more careful they may become a thing of the past.  The homeowners are confused very confused.  You have the bait and switch people Sears & the Bay etc.  You have room cleaners.  You have dry, bonnett powder and the biggest problem the steam cleaner.  why you ask?? because you can rent one and steam cleaners are missing the boat by not doing a much better job than the DIY people.  When you are too cheap to get educated, you leave things wet, you think you have the best system and cut the others down even though you don't know anything about their  results or proceedures.  I do not steam clean I use hot water extraction and as I have indicated earlier you are not a steam cleaner, or maybe you are if you want to be.  If you cannot justify your existance to your client than you should be doing something else like phone solitation.  Bacause if you are cheap enough everyone who is also cheap and only hiring you because you are cheaper than a rental DIY.

researcher wrote: Are home-care carpet cleaning products getting so good that you guys are going to eventually not be needed anymore?

That will certainly be the day.