Carpet and Floor Cleaning Industry Chat Forum : Cimex or ? https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 22 Jun 2026 14:12:02 +0000 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:23:47 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.06 360 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4182 <![CDATA[Carpet and Floor Cleaning Industry Chat Forum]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Cimex or ? : FriendlyHammer wrote:So you...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120614&title=cimex-or#120614 Author: checkmate
Subject: 4182
Posted: 13/September/2007 at 6:23pm

Originally posted by FriendlyHammer FriendlyHammer wrote:

So you acid rinse?

    

    I have been thinking a lot about that. What would you think about using viniger and water for an acid rinse ?]]> Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:23:47 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120614&title=cimex-or#120614 <![CDATA[Cimex or ? : Opps, Hold on a secEdited by...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120613&title=cimex-or#120613 Author: checkmate
Subject: 4182
Posted: 13/September/2007 at 6:22pm


    
    Opps, Hold on a sec

Edited by checkmate - 13/September/2007 at 6:26pm]]> Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:22:13 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120613&title=cimex-or#120613 <![CDATA[Cimex or ? : cleanex wrote:I disagree with...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120612&title=cimex-or#120612 Author: carpetologist
Subject: 4182
Posted: 13/September/2007 at 6:01pm

Originally posted by cleanex cleanex wrote:

I disagree with you Ted, the Cimex is the best encap machine the accelerator is a great low moisture cleaning method, and there is a big difference in the 2 methods. We use both. With the Cimex we use an encap juice and with our Brute [ your accelerator] we use Chemspec DFC 105 or heavy Duty Degreaser depending on the soil load, with great success. Yes with the Cimex you do not get dirty pads, but that is how that system works, with the pad system you get tons of dirty pads.  Two different methods you are comparing apples to apples. That's my 2 cents worth. If one was really interested in this type of cleaning they should consider purchasing both machines, and I might add we only use these machines in our commercial division 
 
It seems that I have accumulated my findings from renting both of these units out to mostly novices. The Cimex is generally back within hours saying their customer would not accept this cleaning method calling it a shampoo method. Now, when they take the Accelerator and the customer sees the extremely soiled pads then the customer accepts and allows them to carry on.
 
I guess it's all in how you explain the Encap process.
 
Keep well and I am glad to see you are still disagreeing, it's one of your wonderful trademarks.
 
]]> Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:01:47 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120612&title=cimex-or#120612 <![CDATA[Cimex or ? : So you acid rinse? ]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120596&title=cimex-or#120596 Author: FriendlyHammer
Subject: 4182
Posted: 13/September/2007 at 2:32pm

So you acid rinse?]]> Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:32:33 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120596&title=cimex-or#120596 <![CDATA[Cimex or ? : The hot water extraction is done...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120576&title=cimex-or#120576 Author: checkmate
Subject: 4182
Posted: 13/September/2007 at 10:42am

The hot water extraction is done the next time I come, and I do not add any soap, just do a pretreat and rinse out the dry foam shampoo left from the last time I cleaned, two months before. ]]> Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:42:55 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120576&title=cimex-or#120576 <![CDATA[Cimex or ? : If you shampoo first, don&#039;t...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120574&title=cimex-or#120574 Author: splash_$$$_dash
Subject: 4182
Posted: 13/September/2007 at 10:02am

If you shampoo first, don't use any more chemical in the extraction process unless it is Textile Rinse.]]> Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:02:35 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120574&title=cimex-or#120574 <![CDATA[Cimex or ? : Cimex has 3 heads and you have...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120570&title=cimex-or#120570 Author: cleanex
Subject: 4182
Posted: 13/September/2007 at 8:39am

Cimex has 3 heads and you have multiple choices from brush to a couple types of pads]]> Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:39:59 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120570&title=cimex-or#120570 <![CDATA[Cimex or ? : Does the Cimex use a pad or brush...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120568&title=cimex-or#120568 Author: checkmate
Subject: 4182
Posted: 13/September/2007 at 8:04am

Does the Cimex use a pad or brush ? I have a 17" carpet brush that I use on my floor scrubber with a dry foam shampoo. I do a follow up with a hot water etraction enz-all pretreat and rinse. This works well for me.]]> Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:04:37 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120568&title=cimex-or#120568 <![CDATA[Cimex or ? : I disagree with you Ted, the Cimex...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120541&title=cimex-or#120541 Author: cleanex
Subject: 4182
Posted: 12/September/2007 at 7:24pm

I disagree with you Ted, the Cimex is the best encap machine the accelerator is a great low moisture cleaning method, and there is a big difference in the 2 methods. We use both. With the Cimex we use an encap juice and with our Brute [ your accelerator] we use Chemspec DFC 105 or heavy Duty Degreaser depending on the soil load, with great success. Yes with the Cimex you do not get dirty pads, but that is how that system works, with the pad system you get tons of dirty pads.  Two different methods you are comparing apples to apples. That's my 2 cents worth. If one was really interested in this type of cleaning they should consider purchasing both machines, and I might add we only use these machines in our commercial division 

Edited by cleanex - 12/September/2007 at 7:29pm]]> Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:24:33 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120541&title=cimex-or#120541 <![CDATA[Cimex or ? : Nevadaman wrote: Is a Cimex...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4182&PID=120489&title=cimex-or#120489 Author: carpetologist
Subject: 4182
Posted: 12/September/2007 at 3:21pm

Originally posted by Nevadaman Nevadaman wrote:

Is a Cimex Cyclone the best Encapsulating machine or does anyone recommend something different for commercial work?

 
Pushing a Cimex over a dirty carpet cetainly is impressive to the eye. But, when you actually inspect the poly cleaning pad used after a 1000 sq. ft. cleaning it hardly looks soiled.
 
Pushing an Accelerator over a dirty carpet is impressive to the eye and when you inspect the cotton or micro-fiber it shows very serious signs of soil removal only after 100 sq. ft.
 
Side-by-side the choice is very clear. As to which one is actually extracting the most soil. Re-washing the cotton pads may be an additional chore but well worth it if you are looking for low cost quality cleaning. Keeping in mind that Encap is being used in both cases.
 
Nevadaman, hope this info helps...for more info on OP Cleaning go to our discussion topic on Bonnet & Oscillating (OP) Cleaning.
 
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