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   <title><![CDATA[The CON woman : I have been in the biz all that...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=216">beamer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4492<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01/April/2009 at 1:02am<br /><br />I have been in the biz all that time. With some ups and downs. I usually visit this site from time to time or when I get an email telling me of a post on a thread I have posted on before. I don't usually post unless I feel an overwhelming urge to expose my opinion which isn't very often. But I do grind my teeth alot.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[The CON woman : hey beamer where have you been?...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1559">rick007</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4492<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01/April/2009 at 12:38am<br /><br />hey beamer where have you been? see you joined 5 years ago and only 11 posts. are you back in the biz? ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[The CON woman : Avoid the room special bs by charging...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=216">beamer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4492<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01/April/2009 at 12:23am<br /><br />Avoid the room special bs by charging per square foot. It is by far the fairest way to set prices for you and the customer. And always give yourself room to move if the customer doesn't like the original charge you can give her a small discount just to make her happy and you won't lose money. But if you get the sense that it's going&nbsp; to be a real headache, reach for the stars. At least if she goes for it you will be amply compensated or her bs.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[The CON woman : AS LOW AS can get more people...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=601">duckcountry</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4492<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15/January/2009 at 7:45pm<br /><br />AS LOW AS can get more people calling but it is the quality of the potential job that is the concern of course.&nbsp; How are those prices working for you in the Boulder area? &nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[The CON woman : You can look at my coupon page...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2010">prouddadx3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4492<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14/January/2009 at 12:23pm<br /><br />You can look at my coupon page on my website. I haven't had a price problem in a very long time. Knock on wood.&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" /> I found that if my prices are high enough, I can avoid the people who try to force a deal on you. The exclusive price shoppers avoid me since I'm out of their price range. The cheapest clients want the most done for the littlest amount and then they tend to have higher expectations. Avoid the problem client, they will suck the joy out of owning your own business.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[The CON woman : Love your site, Marko. That is...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=601">duckcountry</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4492<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29/December/2008 at 3:20pm<br /><br />Love your site, Marko.&nbsp; That is professional although the linkto pages aren't spectacular.&nbsp; Who did the work?]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[The CON woman :       Never argue.. Negotiate...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2063">Marko</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4492<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29/December/2008 at 11:15am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Quote" alt="Quote" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" />    Never argue.. Negotiate</td></tr></table> Exactly!&nbsp;<img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[The CON woman :    MR. STEAMER wrote:once they...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1513">Soil Lint Green</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4492<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17/February/2008 at 3:32pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by MR. STEAMER" alt="Originally posted by MR. STEAMER" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>MR. STEAMER wrote:</strong><br /><br />once they see that your willing to walk..most times they'll pay what you asked...<br><br>if they don't and let you go...you should be happy that you got out of that bullsh*t</td></tr></table><br><br>The take away close is famous for its effectiveness.<br><br>I just walked away from one that had urine spots all over.&nbsp; The customer wanted no special attention paid to the urine, even after being told about the extent of the damage, and would not go for the $40 surcharge for second floors.&nbsp; She wanted the coupon to apply to her house.&nbsp; I suggested SS who ignores everything, or replace everything with hardwood floors, and left after letting her know that as a professional I cannot in all good conscience know that there is dog damage and not treat it.&nbsp; <br><br>If the dentist spots a cavity he either gets an agreement to treat the whole mouth or turns down the routine cleaning job.&nbsp; I would not pretend a carpet cleaner is the equal to a dentist.&nbsp; But the same principles do apply for many good cleaners.<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[The CON woman :    MR. STEAMER wrote:Never argue...walkI...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1513">Soil Lint Green</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4492<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17/February/2008 at 12:47pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by MR. STEAMER" alt="Originally posted by MR. STEAMER" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>MR. STEAMER wrote:</strong><br /><br />Never argue...walk</td></tr></table><br><br>I do that too.&nbsp; As I see it, the appointment is a sales appointment.&nbsp; The prospect sees it differently but that does nothing to change my thoughts.<br><br>I am the doctor of dirt.&nbsp; If a prospects wants to argue my diagnosis it would be like arguing with their doctor, dentist or eye doctor.&nbsp; It is also like challenging the plumber or someone who is fixing the washer.<br><br>Bottom line, I am the expert at this, they are the expert only in what someone is paying them to do.&nbsp; I don't claim to know their job, I expect the same respect.&nbsp; If I decide something to be true, it is.&nbsp; If they want to challenge me, they are invited to take action.&nbsp; All they need to do is go get a second opinion.&nbsp; I have other patients to attend to.&nbsp; <br><br>I need to go to my van and get something.&nbsp; That something is gone.&nbsp; Add them to the small list of 86'd prospects.<br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[The CON woman : I never advertise price, period........]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=30">danmarck82</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4492<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28/January/2008 at 11:02pm<br /><br />I never advertise price, period..... I very seldom advertise , work the customer list that you have ! that is if you have established a few hundred customers. If not.... the good old business card  and a lot of cold calling works slowly . You could try flyers but  1% return on a non-responsive ( EXPENSIVE ) flyer or  direct mail out can be discouraging too. ....If you are just beginning there is no easy absolute solution to this problem,<br /><br />Persistence in building solid foundational relationships is paramount. They will last forever.......These price shopper will be gone tomorrow . You can not build your business - long term-  on these types of people . ]]>
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