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   <title><![CDATA[Silence of the Lambs : They work as associates when they...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=84">Superglide Ken</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4998<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21/April/2008 at 4:31pm<br /><br />They work as associates when they take your money Don.<br /><br />"the money Associates". LOL]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Silence of the Lambs : If you are talking about the IICRC...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=238">cleanex</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4998<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21/April/2008 at 3:25pm<br /><br />If you are talking about the IICRC it is not an Association, only a certification body]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Silence of the Lambs : So Kenny learned his scams from...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11">cmaster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4998<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20/April/2008 at 10:15pm<br /><br />So Kenny learned his scams from the IICRC?????<img src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Shocked" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Silence of the Lambs : it&amp;#039;s like dealing with Ken...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=54">MR. STEAMER</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4998<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20/April/2008 at 10:07pm<br /><br />it's like dealing with Ken hARRIS YOU SEND MONEY WITH NOTHING IN RETURN]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Silence of the Lambs : We need to speak with our support....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11">cmaster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4998<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20/April/2008 at 4:08pm<br /><br />We need to speak with our support. If they aren't doing things that benefit the cleaners, quit sending them money. I did 6 years ago. If everyone else does the same, they will be out of "non profit" biz quickly<img src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Big%20smile" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Silence of the Lambs : As long as the present elite have...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22">doug</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4998<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20/April/2008 at 1:45pm<br /><br />As long as the present elite have any say in anything, things will never change]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Silence of the Lambs : It&amp;#039;s not about setting standards...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11">cmaster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4998<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20/April/2008 at 1:06pm<br /><br />It's not about setting standards or prices. It's about&nbsp;educating consumers to&nbsp;purchase and maintain carpet. If we want regulation, let the government take it over<img src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/evilGrin.gif" height="20" width="20" border="0" alt="Evil%20Grin" /><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I agree with the fad, but we could use a little help reversing the trend<img src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Big%20smile" /></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Silence of the Lambs : Why would carpet cleaners want...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=54">MR. STEAMER</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4998<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20/April/2008 at 10:50am<br /><br />Why would carpet cleaners want to work together... makes no sense to me.<DIV>I haven't paid my dues sinse 2005... and I haven't lost any business from that.&nbsp; I don't need any organizing body to set price or standards, I can do that myself.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>people aren't&nbsp;only installing hard floors because of allergies, but also because of laziness.&nbsp; When they see how&nbsp;HARD&nbsp;hard floors are to keep clean ...they get the next best thing berber...LOL</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>give this fad a few years and then we'll be back in the high life again!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>trust me when I say a BBB symbol will get you far more benefits than a IICRC symbol will</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Silence of the Lambs : A properly run organization can...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11">cmaster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4998<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19/April/2008 at 11:22pm<br /><br />A properly run organization can promote carpet sales&nbsp;and carpet cleaning to the consumer, something that the IICRC has never done effectively, if at all. We need someone to promote cleaning on a national/international level so that our potential customers install good quality carpet and have it professionally maintained at regular intervals. As it stands, people buy cheap crap and replace it with cheap laminate cuz it doesn't last. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The other problem is "health care professionals". They tell their "allergic" patients to remove all the carpet from their homes and replace it with hard surface flooring. We all know it's bs, but has the IICRC gone to the health care profession and educated them????? I highly doubt it. This needs to be done on a national level. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I will support an organization that addresses the issues of today's cleaners ethically and with morality<img src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs%20Up" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Silence of the Lambs : at the end of the day none of...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=54">MR. STEAMER</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4998<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19/April/2008 at 9:24pm<br /><br />at the end of the day none of that crap matters.... <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The customers don't know and they don't care.. and at the end of the day it's ONLY the customer that matters.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>STOP paying those damn dues!&nbsp; Put some advertising out and get some bookings up on the board.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>why would you want to be a apart of something that is useless????</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>throw those dues into a BBB or BNI these things will get you bookings</DIV><DIV>not any dam IICRC or CRI.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Customers respect the BBB symbol or referals from a BNI.... </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Lets all just for get about the IICRC or any other Organization.. no dues they will slowly die</DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by MR. STEAMER - 19/April/2008 at 9:27pm</span>]]>
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