Carpet and Floor Cleaning Industry Chat Forum : Portable Needs More Extraction https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 25 May 2026 16:50:48 +0000 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:44:36 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.06 360 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5257 <![CDATA[Carpet and Floor Cleaning Industry Chat Forum]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Portable Needs More Extraction : Dirty Ninja wrote:Too broke....]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147845&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147845 Author: duckcountry
Subject: 5257
Posted: 10/October/2008 at 2:44pm

Originally posted by Dirty Ninja Dirty Ninja wrote:

Too broke. I want to, but I am stuck with porty for now. I even have to get a real job, at least part time for a while cause I moved from my customer base and have to start over again. At least my back will get a break and I can stop sweating a gallon a day.Thumbs%20Up

Want fries with that?


Keep the porty and buy a water claw for it.  Keep it for the right jobs and charge more for those.  Only use on the areas requiring it and only if the customer pays some good bucks for it.

Shampoo furniture with a dry foam shampoo and extract with a good wet/dry vac.  Use air movers to speed drying.   Do the furniture first, then the carpet to allow the furniture the maximum time to dry with air movers.  Use something like butcher paper when placing the cushions on the furniture to block fabric-to-fabric contact.  A canvas tarp serves as a good service for doing you furniture work, placing the furniture on it and working in the room where the furniture is actually located regardless of flooring material.

Get a 175RPM machine, a good mop bucket and some cotton bonnet pads.  For under $100 with the right chemicals you can save your back, avoid saturating a carpet and still satisfy the customer while leaving her with nearly dry carpet with little effort on your part.

Remember, we aren't trying to leave NO evidence of the dirt that did the crime - CSI is not going in after you looking for some evidence regardless of how microscopic it is.  We just want to deep vacuum and with our cleaning leave no VISIBLE evidence that there was ever a crime.

THAT'S MY STORY AND I AM STICKING TO IT.
]]> Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:44:36 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147845&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147845 <![CDATA[Portable Needs More Extraction : cmaster wrote:Training courses...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147844&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147844 Author: duckcountry
Subject: 5257
Posted: 10/October/2008 at 2:24pm

Originally posted by cmaster cmaster wrote:

Training courses are important. I just prefer not to send my money to an organization that does nothing to promote it's registrantsOuch


Here, Here!  I second that.
]]> Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:24:07 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147844&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147844 <![CDATA[Portable Needs More Extraction : Good point BigD on the rinsing...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147839&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147839 Author: John L
Subject: 5257
Posted: 10/October/2008 at 11:26am

Good point BigD on the rinsing stage.. I always use a rinsing agent emulsifier or acid depending on the situation..
 
When a carpet fiber is rinsed using plain water, the calcium / magnesium particles (present in the water) cause the detergent molecules to drop the soils they have emulsified. These detergent molecules then start emulsifying the calcium/magnesium particles. The soils redeposit back into the carpet fiber which causes resoiling.

When a rinsing agent is used. The chelating agents hide the calcium/magnesium particles from the detergent molecules. The detergent molecules continue holding onto the soils they have emulsified. This enables them to more thoroughly be rinsed from the carpet fiber.



Edited by John L - 10/October/2008 at 11:27am]]> Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:26:27 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147839&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147839 <![CDATA[Portable Needs More Extraction : Have you tried using a Chemical...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147838&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147838 Author: BigDCleans
Subject: 5257
Posted: 10/October/2008 at 10:56am

Have you tried using a Chemical rinse? Most soaps lower the PH to break up grease.  Using an acidic rinse to neutralize the PH means less water down on the return.

Also I would lose the heater, check up on it but I understand the soap works better with heat because the molecules expand and can capture more oils, thus creating a better clean.  However I believe the improvement is minimal until you hit temperatures very near steam. 

I get the hottest water I can to start, prespray with the proper soap (Olefin can be tricky without the right soap, remember its plastic) then agitate with a buffer if needed.  Mix a rinse and slow down the stroke, water needs time to move.


]]> Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:56:49 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147838&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147838 <![CDATA[Portable Needs More Extraction : Keep them filters clear.. A few...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147509&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147509 Author: John L
Subject: 5257
Posted: 23/September/2008 at 7:24am

Keep them filters clear.. A few way to get more umf for your porty:Banana%20Dance
 
Add a booster and 1 more Ametek lamb vac.. Use 3 stage.. And the 2" hose for longer hose runs.. At 25' you can get great drytimes with 1.5".. And maybe slower drystokes.. Big%20smile
 
 
]]> Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:24:12 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147509&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147509 <![CDATA[Portable Needs More Extraction : Go to the &#034;Glide&#034; section,...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147030&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147030 Author: Mr. Slide
Subject: 5257
Posted: 04/September/2008 at 11:47pm

Go to the "Glide" section, and read about "SLIDES" they will help you a lot!Wink
 
           Cheers, ALSmokey 
]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:47:59 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147030&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147030 <![CDATA[Portable Needs More Extraction : for agitation I use a cimex. Prespray...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147026&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147026 Author: Refined
Subject: 5257
Posted: 04/September/2008 at 10:59pm

for agitation I use a cimex.

Prespray i use is Powdered Power Prespray (magic wand)
 
As far as lift, I have only ever used a Mytee. Works great.
 
Harsh chemicals are rarely better. I use all eco friendly chems and i clean circles around anyone in my area. I am often going behind them a month or so later to clean up their messes.
 
Send me a message, if you need any more details.
]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:59:15 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=147026&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#147026 <![CDATA[Portable Needs More Extraction : I hear ya. I&#039;m down upholstery...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=146549&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#146549 Author: Dirty Ninja
Subject: 5257
Posted: 18/August/2008 at 2:20pm

I hear ya. I'm down upholstery training $$$ too. Thanks for some tips.

Ken, soooo that's what those other buttons do on the Ninja, more vacs. lol.Hits%20the%20fan

I will try 2" hose and adapters, and check out some more agitation machines. Anything for stairs? I guess hands and knees and scrub pads.Bang%20Head

I do a lot of olefin berbers and I think water goes right to the pad and have a hard time getting it back. Longer pile seems to get better return. I think I will get it tested though, cause it should feel like it is sucking more. Anyone hear about notching your wand to let some air flow through to increase water lift?

Thanks again. Wife is yelling, I better go. She is half my size but knows where I sleep.Head%20Crack


]]> Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:20:15 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=146549&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#146549 <![CDATA[Portable Needs More Extraction : Dirty Ninja wrote:By the way...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=146541&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#146541 Author: cmaster
Subject: 5257
Posted: 18/August/2008 at 8:52am

Originally posted by Dirty Ninja Dirty Ninja wrote:

By the way I don't want to instigate you! I am sorry, but I am IICRC certified.Unhappy
 
Training courses are important. I just prefer not to send my money to an organization that does nothing to promote it's registrantsOuch
]]> Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:52:04 +0000 https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=146541&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#146541 <![CDATA[Portable Needs More Extraction : Dirty Ninja wrote:Why 2&#034;...]]> https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PID=146540&title=portable-needs-more-extraction#146540 Author: cmaster
Subject: 5257
Posted: 18/August/2008 at 8:49am

Originally posted by Dirty Ninja Dirty Ninja wrote:

Why 2" hose? I have 1 1/2" wand end and 1 1/2" extractor port. Does it create more suction just with a bigger hose?
 
It creates more airflow which will give you better recovery.

Don't know that I need the glide. I do need agitation more. any good methods other than simple carpet rake?
 
A 175 RPM floor scrubber with a carpet brush will give you lots of agitation.

Doesn't the heater create more agitation as the molecules of water are moving quicker and lift more dirt on the microscopic level?
If you are popping breakers why waste your time???
I do appreciate the advice!Clapper
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