Hey Ken

It seems like you'll be soooooooooooo busy working on your "new" and "Improved" SUPER GLIDES that you'll have no time to invent SUPER PADS!!

Carpet DIVA

I'll be visiting Ted sometime next week and will see if I can test out one of your glides.  Besides my ability to play Devil's advocate with you, I have a pretty good marketing head.  Feel free to bounce some ideas off me and you know I will not hesitate to put my two cents in!

You should devise some sort of a professional looking poster that Ted can post in his store so customers have an 'in your face' introduction to your glides.  The poster would maybe have your mug shot cleaning carpet and a bubble caption coming from your mouth with all of your informercial points!  This way everyone that walks in his shop is exposed to the product and will approach Ted about what the product is all about.

I think my marketing services can go a long way on this board if I learn to post informercials as effectively as you!

Thanks again for your response, Gmoney. BTW, I did send Ted one of my latest SSU802 glides already 3 weeks ago, before I even started posting  in earnest here. I figured if I was going to talk about them, I better have one on hand that people can look at and try. Ted has been letting people take it out and test it out for themselves.Hasn't caused much of a stir yet, but maybe most here are not aware yet that they can do that.

A high performance portable on short hose and low pressure can dry carpet faster than most TMs. When we tested the RDM  and SS Superglide at Kleen Kuip last October, it was with a Ninja. Dry time was under 30 minutes. I even layed on the carpet being cleaned after that to show that at least on the low pile commercial carpet we used, it was dry to the back to and no moisture could be seen oor felt doing that.

I never looked at my chart to calculate flow when I said that BTW. Just a fast off the top of my head estimation. I should be more careful next time.That undermines what I say if I don't be more accurate. You are right about that.

The Power-Dri System, when released, has the power to change the way the WD business is done. It will only work with PTO TMs at this point. It would also require alot of capital to distribute in the very large US market. This is beyond my resources right now, and would mean that I would need to drop everything else I am working on to do it, which I wont do. The introduction of our new glides to transform how carpet cleaning is done is my main priority now, and is taking up most of my time. But I could afford to launch the Power-Dri into Canada next year if the interest is there. That is much more doable in both money terms and my time commitement required to do it. Since I designed it around the Cleanco TM, and most are here, that seems an easier way to go. Once established here, the money and infrastructure would be in place to start the US introduction after that.

Looking forward to your comments as the process unfolds in the months to come, and as the testimonials come in.

Superglide Ken

I am anxiously awaiting the feedback from Doug and Mr. Steamer.  Nothing convinces people more than direct observation and qualified testimonials.  Of course I will not take your glide wand achieving drying times quicker than a drimaster until I see for myself because of what I have seen the RDM do.  It's like all the times over the years that a chemical salesman makes grandiose claims about what their chemical can do and then when I use it I am dissapointed.  Why don't you send one down to Ted and so all of us in the GTA can see for ourselves; instead of having to rely only on the word of two individuals.  Now that would cause quite a stir on this board if you decided to do that. 

I still think you are incorrect on your calculations regarding the RDM and glide wand because the undeniably tight seal it forms with the carpet in my opinion obviously does not adversely affect the air flow.  When Ted showed me the unit a while back even he told me that my high performance portable would leave the carpet drier than a truck mount.  And it does (when using the RDM).  Much less chance of wick backs as well.

I like how you tried to explain your way around the psi doubling issue we had.  If you knew the relationship between psi and water flow rate why did you have to refer to your chart?  And you have illustrated that  saying doubling psi will double flow rate when trying to make a point is an unacceptable oversimplification.  If flow rate doubles only after the psi is increased by a factor of 4, then your previous arguement is flawed. 

Regarding hydramaster incorporating pressure reduction into the RDM I have not had a chance to call; but I will.  You will be the first to know what the answer is.

I must say Ken, I enjoy our discussions because you get me thinking about the possibilities out there that can improve our industry.  My focus in my business has been more intense lately as a result of this board (thank you Ted) and your impassioned posts (thanks Ken).  Yeah, I did thank you for something.  Don't let it get to your head; although I'm not holding out hope for that! 

I'm actually curious about your power dri system since your claims regarding this technique has me looking forward hearing more about it.

Preparing myself for informercial #4567-65!  

Gmoney: Like I said, I could tell by your post that you were far from a Newbie to this industry. I was not refering to you being a Newbie to this board when I said it. Thanks for clearing up a little of your background. I don't hide any of mine, but I will give you the benefit of any doubt why you don't use your real name. Perhaps to do so would prevent you from being as candid with your comments here. I would not want that to happen. I figgered you were from the GTA when I said I think I know who you are, so I am not surprised to hear you say that.

As far as hearing from people on this board about my glides, you may be a little disappointed in the lack of response. It is still a very new product that has mostly been sold in the USA marketplace so far. I think that maybe all of 40 have been sold into Canada so far. A few on the board have them, but only  2 that I know for sure. Steamin Pile has our latest and has posted that it glides and cleans well. I am sending out a glide to Doug and Steamer so that others here can comment as well. I certainly don't want them to remain a secret to Canadians. I actually did test an SS glide against a Drimaster machine  at Kleenkuip last October while I was in town. There was about 10 cleaners present at the time. While not scientific by any means, most of those that were present agree that the glide left the carpet drier than the RDM. No moisture meter used, just feel on the fingers. I supose I will need to do it with instruments to convince you of that though.

I don't deny for a minute that my posts are written as infomercials BTW. It is a style that allows me to both inform and obtain sales for my products at the same time. Many people tell me that they like it. A few do not. The ability to scroll is a wonderful thing for those that do not.

We both share the interest in science and physics it seams. That was always my top subject. I have a pressure chart, but even without it I know that to double flow you must square(4X) the pressure. The flow at 200 psi will not double till 800 psi is used. I was just simplefing to make a point understandable to others reading this was all. You have not disproved  my pounds/sq inch theory at all. If you read what I said again, I covered both the surface area covered by the cleaning devices contact points with the carpet and the weight of the wand or RDM on those points. Each produces a distinctive number roughly in line with the rounded number I used to illustrate my point.

I enjoy your input here Gmoney, and can see that we agree on far more than we disagree on after our conversation  here. It is good to have a fellow technical person to talk to. On many of the boards I post on, many of my technical posts go over many readers heads, so it is good that I don't have to worry about that with you. I am still much of a novice in marketing  and look forward to learning a few things here as well. Not rich yet for sure, but I believe that better marketing in future will take care of that. All equipment mentioned on this board does exist and does produce the results I post about. Sometimes they do not do it consistanly enough for me to bring them to market yet in a big way. Being the perfectionist that I am, anything big that has the potential to revolutionize the WD industry like the Power-Dri system does, must be just right before I realease it. I have kept it to myself for 7 years now ,till I spent that time to get it right. When released, it will be in the industry mags and I will be there too. Being the super persistant person that I am, I will keep at it till it happens.But, I do not knowwhat time that will be.

In life, timing is everything.

Superglide Ken

Ken I have to say I admire your spunk.  Thanks for your latest infomercial by the way!  Before I get all hot headed let  me say that my only goal in continuing this dialogue with you is to bring out the FACTS and make this board as productive and educational as possible.  And a little debating never hurt anyone; much safer than weapons of mass destruction! An expert I am not and that is why I am on this board; to learn as much as I can. 

The one that has to do the proving is YOU not me.  I told you to have your current clients speak up in your defense regarding the drying times of all your innovations.  This I have not seen still.  Toot your own horn as much as you want but SHOW me and I'll be satisfied.  Why don't you send a glide down to Ted this week and I'll invite those from the board in the GTA and local media to witness it going head to head with a drimaster.  That would make me a believer since you already said it can achieve faster drying times.  

You should also be a millionaire already if you can dry a carpet in 10 minutes and and a water logged underpadding in 1 hr.  And if you are not, then we should talk about your marketing strategy and funding structure.  Their should be feature stories on you and your 'innovations' in the local newspaper, industry publications and the like.  I could go on and on, but I digress. Sorry, that is the salesman talking again.  

Now lets clarify my identity.  You know what they say   Their are a couple of people that you might thnk I am because of your interaction with them on other boards but I assure you are wrong.  I live in Toronto and buy chemicals off of Ted at Kleen Kuip and talk with him often.  In fact, if you read one of my previoius posts refering to an ancient Clarke machine, it was purchased from Ted about 15 years ago. 

This brings me to my next point.  I am a newbie on the board (the first I became part of) but not in this industry.  My IICRC certications have been acquired through Ted and Chemspec. 

And stop ignoring what I saying.  I was the one that said their is no shame in attempting to improve on an innovation because Microsoft did it with their Internet Explorer.

And I was the one that said I was going to be using a pile lifter to remove the dry dirt and then a pre spray to loosen the soils that are adhering to the carpet fibre prior to extraction, bonneting or padding.  This is my method, I do not care if most carpet cleaners don't do it.  So don't try and reword what I just said claim it as your own.  I'm starting to see a pattern here Ken!

Now lets get technical.  You cannot be over technical with me Ken so give me your best shot.  Since you are vocal about your mechanical egineering background I will tell you mine. I have a degree in the sciences from university and I'm well schooled in physics (one of my favourite subjects).

Let me school you on water consumption and PSI.  Doubling the PSI does NOT double your flow rate.  There is a slight increase but it is not directly proportional.  Enough said. 

I'll contact hydramaster and see if your claims of built in pressure reduction are valid.  So you are telling me that if I was to dial up 500 psi on the drimaster it automatically cuts my psi half!  Like I said I will call the manufacturer and get back to you on that one.

Now I think I need to explain to you a little bit about seal and lbs/square inch.  Two of the main variables that seal is dependent upon is the amount of surface area in contact with surface in question and the amount of force (lbs/square inch) exerted upon that surface.  The weight of the drimaster coupled with the amount of surface area (validated by you I might say) in contact with the carpet ensures a tight seal.  Like I said before you need a delicate balance of seal and lift.  You also support my argument because despite all of the drimaster's shortcomings (seal, airflow etc)  it still outperforms a wand and wand plus glide.  And I repeat again, this is with the trigger being pressed constantly.  Which proves your theory on cfm:lbs/sq inch ratio incorrect.  Time to go back to the drawing board Ken.  When you get it right I will be the first one to applaud you.

You need to pick your battles more selectively.  Once you heard me mention drimaster in my previous post you were all over that like flies to -----!  Why?  Oh yeah, informercial time. 

Then you thought your technical talk would impress me and the others on this board.  Like I said before, you are knowldgeable and your knowledge is an asset to our industry.  But I will speak up when I feel you are not giving the other board members 'the straight goods'.   

Looking forward to hearing from you.