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   <title><![CDATA[Dont waste your money on chemicals : Doesn&amp;#039;t hurt to ask  ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1428">Mark McMaster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5625<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09/February/2009 at 7:51pm<br /><br />Doesn't hurt to ask<img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Dont waste your money on chemicals : Hey Mark; I&amp;#039;m hanging on...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=947">Hammy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5625<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09/February/2009 at 4:13pm<br /><br /><P>Hey Mark;</P><P>I'm hanging on to what stuff I&nbsp;do have left.</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Dont waste your money on chemicals : Hey Jay. Just busting your chops...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1428">Mark McMaster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5625<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08/February/2009 at 9:14pm<br /><br />Hey Jay. Just busting your chops here Bro and not your work]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Dont waste your money on chemicals : Any stone equipment or supplies...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1428">Mark McMaster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5625<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08/February/2009 at 2:32pm<br /><br />Any stone equipment or supplies left Hammy?<br>&nbsp;I'm the opposite. I'm thinking of doing carpets now as well. LOL<br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Dont waste your money on chemicals :   Mark McMaster wrote:Do you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=947">Hammy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5625<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07/February/2009 at 4:18pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mark McMaster" alt="Originally posted by Mark McMaster" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mark McMaster wrote:</strong><br /><br />Do you do a lot of marble/natural stone work Hammy?<BR><BR>I do granite/marble counters but just starting floors<BR></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I was lucky enough to have a small client base with natural stone (carpet cleaning being #1)&nbsp;that I educated myself and had the support of two large chemical companies that helped me develope a system to restore and maintain them. Some was great some was ok. I did it for 5 years. Should have stayed with it. Too busy cleaning other things.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I have always loved the look of stone. So much I had it installed in my house. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I haven't done stone work in 6 years!</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Dont waste your money on chemicals : I can indentify marble, and until...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2106">jaymark1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5625<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07/February/2009 at 1:57pm<br /><br />I can indentify marble, and until I get more training in that, I wont cleaning it.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>guys im not some retard cleaning, i have trained with someone for 2 years during college.&nbsp; </DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Dont waste your money on chemicals : Do you do a lot of marble/natural...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1428">Mark McMaster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5625<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07/February/2009 at 12:38pm<br /><br />Do you do a lot of marble/natural stone work Hammy?<br><br>I do granite/marble counters but just starting floors<br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Dont waste your money on chemicals : Once again I suggest you do some...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=947">Hammy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5625<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07/February/2009 at 9:36am<br /><br />Once again I suggest you do some more research<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><H2>How To Clean Marble</H2><P>Cleaning marble is hard work, there is no doubt. If you have made the investment in using marble on your flooring, your countertops or in your bathroom, you need to know how to clean it and clean it so thoroughly that it looks like it is brand new. Sometimes we find scuff marks on it. Other times it is the things that spill onto the surface. While each case is its own creature, cleaning marble can be done effectively. Here, we will take a look at some of the ways in which we can clean up this beautiful investment we have made in our homes.</P><P>The first and foremost tip I have for you is to NEVER, EVER use vinegar or other acid based products on your marble floors. Marble is very delicate and must be cleaned with pH neutral, gentle cleaners. Acids, even the mild acid in vinegar will actually dissolve the finish and permanently etch the surface. Also mild gentle cleaning products are required. Always use a neutral pH cleaning product.</P><DIV></DIV>Since you don't know how to identify stone or tile you will find out the hard way.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Dont waste your money on chemicals : Sorry I didnt respond right away,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2106">jaymark1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5625<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07/February/2009 at 9:16am<br /><br />Sorry I didnt respond right away, It was a friday night, I was out on a date, you know, with a girl....<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also, I have forgotten how easy it was to insult someone while sitting behind there computer screens hundreds of miles away</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I am no hack, many people I have met in this industry make there own chemicals, the man i got this idea from makes all of his own chemicals.&nbsp; Purple power, you may laugh, it just an acid based degreaser, and to clean tile, ive been told that you need an acid cleaner, and since most of the stuff I found on the groud is some form of grease, I think it works just fine.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>One last point, to put the "small savings into perspective"&nbsp; I didnt get into this business because I love being the cleaner, I did because of the money, and thats all i am focused on.&nbsp; Would you agree that I might save about $10 dollars a job on cleaner, since you said you spend about .10 a square foot, and I spend about .5?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Let me put that into prespective..</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I do about 100 tile jobs a year, and that savings would be $1000 dollars.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Lets just say I continue that savings per year in cleaner, over 40 years, I am 25, and I plan on retiring at about 65.&nbsp; And I invest, which I do, heavly in High yeilding dividend stocks, yeilding about an 8% return each year. lets do the math....</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>hey wow, thats $301,505 bucks...</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Well we all know america wont be around for 40 more years, but its nice to hope</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>You keep your cleaner, Ill keep mine, and we can agree to disagree</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Dont waste your money on chemicals : Thanks Ken. That&amp;#039;s what I...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1428">Mark McMaster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5625<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06/February/2009 at 10:39pm<br /><br />Thanks Ken. That's what I was thinking as well. LOL Had no responses to Hammy and I]]>
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