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   <title><![CDATA[Need a good &quot;green&quot; cleaner :     Hammy wrote:  HeartlandSteam...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=902">HeartlandSteam</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6366<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11/January/2010 at 11:28pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Hammy" alt="Originally posted by Hammy" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Hammy wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by HeartlandSteam" alt="Originally posted by HeartlandSteam" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>HeartlandSteam wrote:</strong><br /><br />Microban makes several products that "kill"<span id="ctl00_cph_Marketing_lbl_Primary"> allergens and other disease-causing germs, bacteria, fungi, mold, and mildew</span><span id="ctl00_cph_Marketing_lbl_Primary">.<br></span></td></tr></table> <div>&nbsp;</div><div>Last time I checked you don't clean carpets&nbsp;with Microban you sanitize with it.&nbsp;Are we not talking about green cleaning solutions.&nbsp;Let's not get confused Heartland. If you want to talk about green check this out.&nbsp;<a href="http://www.rochestermidland.com/product_lines/green_cleaning/index.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.rochestermidland.com/product_lines/green_cleaning/index.cfm</a></div></td></tr></table><br><br>Microban does make a product that <b>cleans</b>, and sanitizes. You can see it here: <a href="http://www.prorestoreproducts.com/C&#111;ntent_003.aspx?cid=1160" target="_blank">http://www.prorestoreproducts.com/Content_003.aspx?cid=1160</a><br><br>But that was not the point.<br><br>I was just trying to be objective. Regardless if were talking about <i>cleaning</i> products, or <i>sanitizing</i> products, the question is still the same. Do synthetics do a better job of cleaning and sanitizing?<br><br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by HeartlandSteam - 11/January/2010 at 11:46pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Need a good &quot;green&quot; cleaner :   HeartlandSteam wrote:Microban...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=947">Hammy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6366<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11/January/2010 at 7:54pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by HeartlandSteam" alt="Originally posted by HeartlandSteam" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>HeartlandSteam wrote:</strong><br /><br />Microban makes several products that "kill"<SPAN id=ctl00_cph_Marketing_lbl_Primary ="Primary"> allergens and other disease-causing germs, bacteria, fungi, mold, and mildew</SPAN><SPAN id=ctl00_cph_Marketing_lbl_Primary ="Primary">.<BR></SPAN></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Last time I checked you don't clean carpets&nbsp;with Microban you sanitize with it.&nbsp;Are we not talking about green cleaning solutions.&nbsp;Let's not get confused Heartland. If you want to talk about green check this out.&nbsp;<a href="http://www.rochestermidland.com/product_lines/green_cleaning/index.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.rochestermidland.com/product_lines/green_cleaning/index.cfm</A></DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Hammy - 11/January/2010 at 8:17pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Need a good &quot;green&quot; cleaner : I&amp;#039;ve used Master Blends Soap...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2010">prouddadx3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6366<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11/January/2010 at 2:14pm<br /><br />I've used Master Blends Soap Free products and they work pretty good. I also use a Rotovac wand with it. The wand more than compensates for the slightly less agressive cleaning agent. I think that "Green" can be a great marketing niche to target in your area.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Need a good &quot;green&quot; cleaner : Greenies sic Fido in new guilt...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=263">John L</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6366<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/January/2010 at 5:11pm<br /><br /><FONT size=2><strong>Greenies sic Fido in new guilt push</strong> <BR><BR>Do you love your pet? Of course you do. <BR><BR>So you might want to hide your pooch from the greenies, because now they want you to sacrifice your pet--in the name of the Earth. <BR><BR>An outrageous new book with the disgusting title, "Time to Eat the Dog: The Real Guide to Sustainable Living" attempts to make the weak case that a medium-sized dog does more damage to the planet than two SUVs, mostly because of all the land and energy it takes to make dog food. <BR><BR>But the eco-nuts don't really want you to ditch the dog and keep the SUV--they want you to shed both to live in their Luddite paradise. <BR><BR>The authors of this brainless book also accuse our beloved companions of attacking the local wildlife and polluting the planet with their poo. As if that's not a natural part of life for ANY animal, wild or domestic--including human beings. <BR><BR>But I do agree with them on one point: Store-bought dog food is wasteful--but not because it destroys the planet. It's expensive and unhealthy. <BR><BR>My beloved <SPAN style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed; : n&#111;ne transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand" id=lw_1263161046_1 =yshortcuts>Weimaraner</SPAN>, Silky, eats raw chicken necks (with the skin on), fatty raw hamburger, raw eggs (including the shell) and a raw pork or beef joint two or three times a week. And you wouldn't believe how healthy my little darling is--all muscle, covered in the shiniest coat of fur you've ever seen. <BR><BR>If you want to give it a try, start by working these healthy raw meats into the supermarket dog food. Over time, use less kibble and more meat. <BR><BR>Just do it for your dog's health and not for some imaginary environmental impact. That's just a smokescreen for an extremist movement with a radical left-wing political agenda. They haven't gotten very far with science--so now they're trying guilt. <BR><BR>They want you to feel guilty about eating meat, guilty about driving to work, guilty about having a pet--guilty about living. Not long ago, one environmental space cadet even declared that </FONT><a href="http://clicks.douglassreport.com//t/AQ/1g4/3Ak/AAEokA/AQ/AnTiTA/cW9X" target="_blank"><SPAN id=lw_1263161046_2 =yshortcuts><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>the human race would need to become vegans to survive.</FONT></SPAN></A><FONT size=2> <BR><BR>They come up with ridiculous concepts like "<SPAN style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium n&#111;ne; : n&#111;ne transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand" id=lw_1263161046_3 =yshortcuts>ecological footprint</SPAN>" or "carbon footprint"--call it what you want, there's no getting around the fact that it's simply been pulled out of thin air, manufactured to make you feel... you guessed it: Guilty! <BR><BR>Some of them even try to collect money off you based on the theoretical size of your nonexistent imaginary carbon footprint. <BR><BR>Forget blackmail--you can call this ploy greenmail. <BR><BR>And if you're sick of vegans claiming moral superiority, keep reading... <BR><BR><HR></FONT><FONT face=verdana><DIV align=center><FONT size=2><B>Men:</B><BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=2>Extend your lovemaking and shift your sex life into overdrive by boosting the power of L-Arginine and naturally STOPPING PDE5—the chemical in your body responsible for shutting down erections. For men looking for the ultimate bedroom experience ONLY! <BR><BR>Steamy and passionate from beginning to end with no irritating let downs.<BR><BR>Learn more about how easy it is to transform yourself into a bedroom dynamo by clicking here: <BR><BR></FONT><a href="http://clicks.douglassreport.com//t/AQ/1g4/3Ak/AAEXTQ/AQ/AnTiTA/NqZH" target="_blank"><SPAN id=lw_1263161046_4 =yshortcuts><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>http://clicks.douglassreport.com//t/AQ/1g4/3Ak/AAEXTQ/AQ/AnTiTA/NqZH</FONT></SPAN></A><FONT size=2> <BR><BR></FONT></FONT><HR><FONT size=2 face=verdana><B>If <SPAN id=lw_1263161046_5 =yshortcuts>meat is murder</SPAN>, then salad is slaughter</B> <BR><BR><SPAN style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed; CURSOR: hand" id=lw_1263161046_6 =yshortcuts>Vegans</SPAN> love to climb up on their organic soapboxes and claim the high ground... because no animals die for their food. <BR><BR>But is it any better to kill plants? <BR><BR>Heck no... botanists have always known that plants--like the rest of us--have instincts, behavior and a will to live too... and a recent article in the <SPAN id=lw_1263161046_7 =yshortcuts>New York Times</SPAN> offers some real food for thought. <BR><BR>I'll bet the vegans will have a hard time digesting this one! <BR><BR>Plants communicate. When attacked, they'll even defend themselves. Not enough to stop the average <SPAN style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed; : n&#111;ne transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand" id=lw_1263161046_8 =yshortcuts>vegetarian</SPAN> from crunching on them, but they're pretty good at turning away insects and other threats. For example, a plant being attacked by a caterpillar can send out a chemical signal that calls out to insects and parasites that eat caterpillars. <BR><BR>This is backed up by science--talk to some botanists. They'll tell you that plants can be ruthless competitors: They will move, shift and grow in ways to get the most sun for themselves while shading and even strangling others... and then suck up all the nutrients from the ground before neighboring plants can. <BR><BR>You could take all that and decide that we simply shouldn't eat anything... ever. Or you can be practical about it and realize that, as the dominant species on the planet, we humans can eat all the plants and animals we want. <BR><BR>To the victors go the spoils. For a few shining moments, that's us... but don't worry. The plants win--eventually, we all end up as fertilizer. <BR><BR>A carnivore with a clear conscience, <BR><BR>William Campbell Douglass II, M.D. <BR></FONT>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=902">HeartlandSteam</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6366<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/January/2010 at 2:52pm<br /><br />Microban makes several products that "kill"<span id="ctl00_cph_Marketing_lbl_Primary" ="Primary"> allergens and other disease-causing germs, bacteria, fungi, mold, and mildew</span><span id="ctl00_cph_Marketing_lbl_Primary" ="Primary">.<br></span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=609">papagator</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6366<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/January/2010 at 1:57pm<br /><br />"Killing" germs and bacteria? Have I missed something?? Is there a carpet product that contains a germicide/bacteriacide???]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=902">HeartlandSteam</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6366<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/January/2010 at 9:17am<br /><br />Here is an objective question:<br>Is it better to use a synthetic product that will do a better job cleaning the carpet, thus, removing and killing more allergens, dust mites, germs, bacteria, etc Which creates a healthier environment and better IAQ.<br>or<br>Use a product that is safer for everyone but does not create a healthier environment because it does not have the cleaning power.<br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Need a good &quot;green&quot; cleaner : Hello Chad. I work in a 125 bed...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=609">papagator</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6366<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/January/2010 at 6:45am<br /><br />Hello Chad. I work in a 125 bed Long Term Care facility. Green is THE way to go. I have had GREAT success with Benefect's Carpet Care product(available at KleenKuip). It can be used for all your needs...prespray, HWE, low moisture bonnet or padding etc. We have alot of staff and residents here that are <EM>extremely</EM> chemically sensitive, and I can use this product with ZERO complaints. Another very good product that I have used is EcoMist which is available through Home Depot in professional strength! Check them out at <a href="http://www.ecomistsoluti&#111;ns.com" target="_blank">www.ecomistsolutions.com</A>. Hope this helps you and, Good Luck!!<img src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smilesupper.gif" height="15" width="29" border="0" alt="Upper" title="Upper" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2595">chad23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6366<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/January/2010 at 12:48am<br /><br />If you don't might sharing what you use I would appreciatte it, Im trying to get as much advice on various chems out there.&nbsp; Thanks!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Need a good &quot;green&quot; cleaner : I use green chems for MY HEALTH...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1106">Ken_Is_OK</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6366<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09/January/2010 at 9:35pm<br /><br />I use green chems for <strong><U>MY HEALTH</U></strong> not my customers health. I'm exposed to it every day or every few days, while they are exposed to it 2-3 times a year.]]>
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