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   <title><![CDATA[Fabric softener as Defoamer : I&amp;#039;m not against using &amp;#034;fabric...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=6596">Beatrice West</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6736<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05/October/2023 at 1:22pm<br /><br /><div>I'm not against using "fabric softener" as a defoamer substitute when in a pinch. If it's going to help protect my carpet cleaning equipment from costly repairs I'm all for it.<br></div><div><br></div><div>But, we have learned that it's best to use products specifically designed for carpet cleaning, including defoamers recommended by the equipment manufacturer or cleaning product supplier. These products are formulated to work effectively without causing any adverse effects on the carpet or the cleaning equipment.</div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5313">CarlLagger</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6736<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14/October/2018 at 4:25pm<br /><br />Reading you guys talking about cleaning makes me feel like i dunno a thing about cleaning and i realized how much of a full i was even in cleaning. So, there always something to learn.<font face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Then i realize -If you think, that you already posses every knowledge needed and you do believe that you already know above and beyond in something - you wrong. Last time i was so lazy, that i got a cleaning service</span></font><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"></span><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> and i realized how much of a full i was even in cleaning. So, there always something to learn.</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5290">Billy Barty</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6736<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04/September/2018 at 9:55pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by S R C" alt="Originally posted by S R C" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>S R C wrote:</strong><br /><br />I've just Brought a new carpet washer. I first went over the carpet two times with hand hot water and cold water in the Reservoir just in case. I was amazed at the dirty water. Not so much dirty water when I used their carpet shampoo. I came on here originally to find out if I could use fabric conditioner in my machine my carpet is older so no stain protection left) I am wondering if doing a quick clean water will be enough, I may try one day but not today as I have a paint stain.<div>&nbsp;</div><div></td></tr></table> <br></div><div><br></div><div>Do you clean a load of laundry using no soap?<br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5299">S R C</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6736<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02/September/2018 at 7:02am<br /><br />I've just Brought a new carpet washer. I first went over the carpet two times with hand hot water and cold water in the Reservoir just in case. I was amazed at the dirty water. Not so much dirty water when I used their carpet shampoo. I came on here originally to find out if I could use fabric conditioner in my machine my carpet is older so no stain protection left) I am wondering if doing a quick clean water will be enough, I may try one day but not today as I have a paint stain.<div>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Fabric softener as Defoamer : I would only use the former from...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5167">Lavon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6736<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05/June/2017 at 7:27pm<br /><br />I would only use the former from a carpet supplier store I'm not sure about using detergent never heard of that but I would keep it safe because it seems like if you use detergent it would be a lot of soap inside of the carpet so I would go with a defoamer]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5110">Turbo-Man</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6736<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25/November/2016 at 7:46am<br /><br />Most things I've read on this forum topic I've tested and tried different brands of consumer softener for laundry. &nbsp;Downy ended up for me to deliver the best knock down when I dilute it with some water to help disperse it. Snuggle was worthless. Knock down in the waste tank is one thing but when the hoses get loaded from heavy foam coming directly out of the carpet you end up stopping often so you can suck up softener enough to knock down this CFM reducing foam. &nbsp;It can literally turn a 1.5 inch hose into a 1" hose in seconds. If you use soft water your foaming problem is even more difficult to resolve.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Some have commented that the softener chemistry affects the emulsification process if used as a prespray or applied to the carpet while cleaning but if there is already an over use of detergents the dirt and oils are already suspended in the dried surfactants and just need to be rinsed out as efficiently as possible so I say go ahead and prespray away as long as you know that you are dealing with this over foaming situation. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I was doing hotel rooms where previous "in house cleaning" crews constantly over applied and never rinsed properly the sudzy bubbles from the carpet. This dogged down the whole cleaning process for me. &nbsp;</div><div>I was once told that the old fashioned urinal cakes used in typical gas station bathrooms would melt down foam in the waste tank really well but besides the overpowering odor exhausted these cakes (made from the same compounds as mothballs) were toxic to breathe (carcinogenic) and are now banned by the janitorial industries.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>And so we just keep searching for the best solutions. I say learn on.... &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5001">luigi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6736<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28/April/2016 at 7:47pm<br /><br />Plus, all of these geniuses seem to know a lot about throwing chemistry terms without having much understanding of what they mean or how they work.<br><br>You don't mix anionic and cationic products as it creates an insoluble compound. That is why the fabric softener goes in the rinse cycle and is not mixed in with the detergent. Many carpet cleaners know just enough about chemicals to get into trouble. They know ph and solvency and a few other terms but nothing else. If you don't understand how bleach "bleaches" (oxidation/reduction), how buffering agents work, or even simple things like why you shouldn't clean an iodine stain with ammonia, then you probably should either learn or just don't experiment. I doubt any of the people here throwing around the words cationic and anionic have ever even heard of&nbsp; zwitterionic<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5001">luigi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6736<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28/April/2016 at 7:03pm<br /><br />Why would anyone put a defoamer in their cleaning solution? It goes in the waste tank.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1513">Soil Lint Green</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6736<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24/October/2010 at 2:34pm<br /><br />Salt takes the head off a beer in 2 seconds so I know it works to break down carbonates.&nbsp; I should test it in my wife's dishwater to see what happens and then look innocent.&nbsp; I have heard it also has a softening effect on water making for a lower quantity of detergent being required to get the same job done.<br><br>I know it is an excellent seasoning.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3174">infinityinf</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6736<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24/October/2010 at 12:43pm<br /><br />I have been using sea salt for many years.<div><br></div><div>I would also recommend some chemical De-Foamers for extreme cases. They are more expensive but your will make sure your job doesn't get delayed or have any issues. The amount of money you could lose if a job didn't get completed is much smaller than the cost of these products.<br><br>I use both sea salt and chemicals, depending on the situation.</div><div><br></div><div>Sammy</div><div><a href="http://www.superiorcleaningtemecula.com" target="_blank">http://www.superiorcleaningtemecula.com</a><br></div>]]>
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