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   <title><![CDATA[Family Business/Insurance :   77748 wrote:Here in order to...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4123">Temple</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7187<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17/June/2012 at 12:09pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by 77748" alt="Originally posted by 77748" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>77748 wrote:</strong><br /><br />Here in order to qualify as a sub they need there own van and equipment as well as not wearing your company shirt this is from my new understanding. <br />The last thing anyone wants is let the irs rip them a new one. Just curiuous on how other companies here work and pay there carpet cleaning techs.  <img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/brick_fall.gif" border="0" alt="Brick Fall" title="Brick Fall" /><br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />We pay by the hour, and have workmans comp on all employees. Dont want the government putting us out of business. Lots of Companies pay a % and give a commission. Our customers like the fact that our techs are not pushing services on them that they dont want or need.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Family Business/Insurance :   Thats every Mans dream 77748....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=263">John L</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7187<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13/October/2011 at 11:34am<br /><br />Thats every Mans dream 77748. Good luck. I'm still wanding solo.<div>And to Zara.. You want to be God? Get a grip lady! hahaha..</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Family Business/Insurance : Lean and mean ! Little slow time...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=196">77748</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7187<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13/October/2011 at 11:22am<br /><br />Lean and mean ! Little slow time to catch some salmon while it is the season&nbsp; out here.&nbsp; As of now it is time to gear up for the holidays and put some money away this years winter season. <br><br>After the winter balls to the wall. <img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/fencing_fight.gif" border="0" alt="Fencing Fight" title="Fencing Fight" /><br>Going to run this business at a higher level with sales reps with huge commission incentives. I want this company to run on its own. I can sell it just wasting my time on wanding. I mean I can professionally pitch a sale and seal the deal with protector. <br>Must find a way to let this run on its own and just sell commercial jobs and leave the residentials to the techs. Hopefully the money can carry it and all paperwork with insurances would allow me to sleep well at night even if I need to lose up to 25 to 30 percent of my pay.&nbsp; Old saying about the win the battle lose the war. <img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smilesheadbreak.gif" border="0" alt="Head Crack" title="Head Crack" /><br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Family Business/Insurance : Hey guy&amp;#65292;Glad to see you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3798">zeralans</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7187<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13/October/2011 at 2:34am<br /><br /><br>Hey guy&#65292;Glad to see you again, you've always brings us something different, so I always remember you. I want to be god make let me see you again. It will focus on your dynamic!!!!!!!!!!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.slimmingshops.com/p57-c-18.html" target="_blank">p57 hoodia </a> <br><a href="http://www.mytoryburchsales.com/" target="_blank">cheap tory burch</a> <br><a href="http://www.buypoloshirtsnow.com/" target="_blank">Ralph Lauren Polo Shirts</a> <br><a href="http://www.cheapsunglassesshops.com/" target="_blank">cheap sunglasses shop</a>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Family Business/Insurance : Understood damn rainy season now....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=196">77748</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7187<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05/October/2011 at 9:25am<br /><br />Understood damn rainy season now. Slows down. Damn grow bigger with all the red tape or keep it small? The problem is I am about at 150 k and where is the money going barely clearing paychecks.<img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/juggle.gif" border="0" alt="Juggle" title="Juggle" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 09:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Family Business/Insurance : Just hope if you do that he is...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=238">cleanex</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7187<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05/October/2011 at 8:18am<br /><br />Just hope if you do that he is not hurt out on the job site while cleaning carpets.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Family Business/Insurance : I heard to get workmans comp a...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=196">77748</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7187<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04/October/2011 at 9:57pm<br /><br />I heard to get workmans comp a old trick is to say the hired person is a telemarketer rather than a carpet cleaning tech the rate is better.&nbsp;<img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/steering.gif" border="0" alt="Steering" title="Steering" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=196">77748</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7187<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03/October/2011 at 10:15am<br /><br />Here in order to qualify as a sub they need there own van and equipment as well as not wearing your company shirt this is from my new understanding. <br>The last thing anyone wants is let the irs rip them a new one. Just curiuous on how other companies here work and pay there carpet cleaning techs.&nbsp; <img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/brick_fall.gif" border="0" alt="Brick Fall" title="Brick Fall" /><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 10:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Family Business/Insurance : One way of doing it here in Australia...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3724">DarthGhost</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7187<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03/October/2011 at 4:04am<br /><br /><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; line-height: normal; font-size: medium; "><div style="-: http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_s/bg.gif; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 1px; margin-bottom: 1px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-size: 15px; line-height: 1.6; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; margin-left: 1px; ">One way of doing it here in Australia is to put the guys on sub-contract. This is how I worked in the industry before I went out on my own.<div><br></div><div>I worked for an employer, he supplied the van, the equipment and the chemicals. I did the work for $150 to $200AU per day (based on number of jobs per day 5 being minimum). Any extra jobs/work I brought in my self commercial or residential, I got 50% and the employer got the other 50%. ie $100 job we split it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>As a sub contractor, I then had to have my own&nbsp;<u><b>insurance</b></u>, as part of the contract. So any damage to the equipment, van or customers carpets I had to pay for.</div><div><br></div><div>So for&nbsp;example an average day 5 jobs for the day. Each at $100AU.</div><div><br></div><div>5 x $100 = $500 - $150 Contractor = $350 - $100&nbsp;expenses (approx) Fuel chemicals etc. = $250 in you pocket.&nbsp; Which&nbsp;you&nbsp;would then have to pay your tax from etc.</div><div><br></div><div>So $250 a day for 6 days = $1500 per week $6000 per month.</div><div><br></div><div>Now these are&nbsp;Australian&nbsp;figures, I'm not sure what you would charge for 3 rooms and your&nbsp;expenses&nbsp;can&nbsp;differ&nbsp;these are just&nbsp;<u>approximations</u>.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Also with contractors working for you you can free up time to spend a day on the road with them and see how they talk to your customers. See the quality of there work etc. That's hard to do if your working as well on jobs.</div><div><br></div><div>Also any&nbsp;commission's,&nbsp;percentages terms or conditions&nbsp;you need to make sure they are in the contract before they start.</div><div><br></div><div>I think you should grow the more you grow the less physical work you need to do and the more you can work on your business not in it. Hope this helps a bit.<img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></div></div></span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=196">77748</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7187<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03/October/2011 at 12:38am<br /><br />Just bought 4th van in case one of three that are on the road&nbsp;breaks down.<br>Here it is I can get the 4th van going with 4 8 to 9 calls 2nd set 10 to 12&nbsp; 3rd set and 12 to 2 and so on. Aside from&nbsp; my business partner TI am afraid of hiring a non family member. I pay them as sub contractors and give them a w-2. <br>I have no workmans comp and is this considered tax evasion. <br><br>Is it better to keep it small or grow I have thought about hiring sales agents at some point paying minimum wage&nbsp; and 25 % commission up to 5 k , 30 % for&nbsp; 5 to 8 k anything after 8 k 35 % per month. <br><br>Currently I am lucky I am making a paycheck. Aside from bus ins., gas ,ads, upkeep, chems and vehicle ins.&nbsp;&nbsp; Stay small or grow?????&nbsp; <img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" />&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley21.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs Down" title="Thumbs Down" />&nbsp; <img src="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/pray.gif" border="0" alt="Pray" title="Pray" /><br>]]>
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