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   <title><![CDATA[advanced generati&#111;n carpets : danmarcks question was about his...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=230">Dakota</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 807<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28/November/2004 at 11:05am<br /><br /><P>danmarcks question was about his pre- spray he has used for 9 years has fabric sofner in it you didnt anwser his question about that i dont think?</P><P>what can that do to the 5th generation carpet</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[advanced generati&#111;n carpets : well ok!!! thanks for setting...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=259">fastone1979</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 807<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28/November/2004 at 8:06am<br /><br /><P>well ok!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; thanks for setting me strait doug!&nbsp;&nbsp; anything above a 10&nbsp;&nbsp; will either,&nbsp;&nbsp; change color,&nbsp; texture,&nbsp; and&nbsp;&nbsp; I cant remember the last one?&nbsp;&nbsp; What do you expect out of a newbie!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[advanced generati&#111;n carpets : No,NO,NO. Above 10 is for commerical...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22">doug</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 807<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26/November/2004 at 10:36pm<br /><br />No,NO,NO.&nbsp; Above 10 is for commerical or olefin.<IMG style="CURSOR: pointer" &#111;nclick="AddSmileyIc&#111;n'smileys/guitar.gif'" alt=Guitar src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/guitar.gif" border="0">]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2004 22:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[advanced generati&#111;n carpets : well I can say I understand 5th...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=259">fastone1979</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 807<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26/November/2004 at 10:34pm<br /><br /><P>well&nbsp; I can say I understand 5th generation carpets.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; thanks fella's!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Now to add to the fire!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is it ok to use presprays with a ph higher than 9.5 on these carpets if you use a fabric rinse to lower the ph back down?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; b/c&nbsp; alot of the presprays&nbsp; out there&nbsp; have a ph level well above 10.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; thanks again ?&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2004 22:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[advanced generati&#111;n carpets : Because it will lose it&amp;#039;s...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=206">danmarck</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 807<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26/November/2004 at 7:34pm<br /><br />Because it will lose it's stain resistance?, or it will wick? or it will brown  or <br />what ??????? What is it, that it is supposed to do. Don't mean to badger <br />you just wonder why a person isn't sopposed to use it. What will it do to <br />the carpet ? because I have used this prespray now for about 9 years and <br />don't see any negatives so far. <br /><br /><br />Just wondering ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[advanced generati&#111;n carpets : If the cleaner is cationic you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22">doug</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 807<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26/November/2004 at 2:59pm<br /><br />If the cleaner is cationic you can't use it on stain resist carpet.&nbsp; Soft water and a fiber rinse will accomplish the samething.&nbsp; I may be wrong.&nbsp; If I am Lee will straiten me out.&nbsp; But as I recall&nbsp;the rule of thumb if it has "cat" in it. You "can't" use it on it.<IMG style="CURSOR: pointer" &#111;nclick="AddSmileyIc&#111;n'smileys/guitar.gif'" alt=Guitar src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/guitar.gif" border="0">]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[advanced generati&#111;n carpets : The manufacturer of the pre-spray...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=206">danmarck</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 807<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26/November/2004 at 1:40pm<br /><br />The manufacturer of the pre-spray I use says that it has Fabric Softners in <br />the chemical. <br /><br />It is added for that specific purpose to give the fibers a "soft to the feet "  <br />feel. And I will say it does work nicely. <br /><br />That's why I was asking what the fabric softeners are supposedly going to <br />do negativly to the 5th Generation carpets??? <br /><br />Any idea? Just wondering ? ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[advanced generati&#111;n carpets : danmark: Why would want to use...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22">doug</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 807<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26/November/2004 at 10:58am<br /><br />danmark: Why would want to use fabric softener on carpet??<IMG style="CURSOR: pointer" &#111;nclick="AddSmileyIc&#111;n'smileys/guitar.gif'" alt=Guitar src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/guitar.gif" border="0">]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[advanced generati&#111;n carpets : Tha PH I was aware of, but the...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=206">danmarck</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 807<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26/November/2004 at 8:54am<br /><br />Tha PH I was aware of, but the fabric softner part I hadn't heard of , <br />What effect would that have???? <br />Thanks for the info.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[advanced generati&#111;n carpets : The pH should be less than 10...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=87">LilNiteRidrhood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 807<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26/November/2004 at 8:38am<br /><br /><P>The pH should be less than 10 for sure. Some mills have different specs, Kraus for example is 9.5.</P><P>Doug should stop being so humble, you can answer all this stuff.</P>]]>
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