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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Soil Lint Green Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/July/2008 at 1:02pm
Nice catch Mr. Duck
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As you see there is Security on this BB..LOL

Anyways if you need a surge of cash start calling on your customer list..Money%20Smile

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One other thing, Harvey Services does not have a business license, so says the city of Las Vegas.  You might want to consider peddling your web business somewhere else because here we do not appreciate the effort.  Trust me.
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So I see you own happyYELLOW, Harry Harvey.  How is that working out for you? 

Do you come to us as
  • a carpet cleaner with years of experience
  • a real estate agent struggling in today's market or
  • someone trying to self promote his new venture as the next yellowbook.com?
Be honest, you don't come across as anybody with loads of experience and we know this board is a likely target for those hoping to boost their google while trying to drive some traffic to their site.  Come clean.

Registrant:
Harry Harvey
PO BOX 230177
LAS VEGAS, Nevada 89105-0177
United States

Registered through: Brinkster
Domain Name: HAPPYYELLOW.COM
Created on: 22-Jan-07
Expires on: 22-Jan-09
Last Updated on: 22-Jan-08

Administrative Contact:
Harvey, Harry harveyrealestate@yahoo.com
PO BOX 230177
LAS VEGAS, Nevada 89105-0177
United States
+1.7025654700

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YP and Craigslist.
Harvey Services
Find us at: happyYELLOW.com
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I have a one liner and so far only 5 calls from it and 3 jobs.. lol.. $14mo. The first job payed for it all year. So dont get a 1 liner if you want the phone to ring.. Had a 1/3 page years ago for $550mo.. and the phone rang more often.
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Steamer (and all),

You say yellow pages make the phone rang.  I'm in the process of setting up my yellow page ads for 2009 and was thinking about going "big."  The local competitors take out half page and dollar bill size ads.  I'm looking at a "cheater half-page," but am wondering if the ROI is there.  AT&T wants $1700 per MONTH for that ad (but I also get "Credit" dollars for ads in other sections....there way of selling more, I guess).

I think you're in Atlanta, so your metro area is probably a little bigger than mine, but what sort of response rates are you getting from yellow pages?  Is it worth what you pay compared to other forms of advertising?  What size/type of yellow page ad do you have?  Have you broken it down into $ per lead for yellow pages?   Thanks for your response in advance.

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Originally posted by duckcountry duckcountry wrote:

Originally posted by envirosafe envirosafe wrote:

 

Well, as I stated earlier - I rather be out of business than operate like the dishonest sleezballs that make up most of this industry (in my experience). I also prefer not to intrude, uninvited, into potential customer’s lives, especially with the lies that are nearly always involved over the phone. You seem to be arguing that you have to be a sleezball to do business...your prerogative I guess. I'm still have an ever-growing business and I've not had to sink into that cesspool...say what you like.

 

I offer two guarantees (1) I'll beat any legitimate, written, quote from any other licensed carpet cleaning company in Beaufort and (2) No quote you get over the phone is worth the paper it's written on.



Lovely sentiments I am sure.  The fact that you restrict which socially acceptable methods you will permit yourself to use when promoting your business means you have decided to infuse your values into the business and inhibit growth at the expense of all you hold dear like food and shelter for your family.  Valiant sacrifice although sadly all in vein.  None of your competition minds that you are uncomfortable with methods you believe are held in distaste by potential clients.  Really, they need you to hold to those principles which they scoop up all the chips you left on the table by folding to early.  Yep, NO problem.  See you at Mickey Ds pushing fries with every meal.  Or do you consider asking for the sale too intrusive for you and obviously for everyone else in the civilized world since everyone thinks like you and agrees you should become the moral leader for businesses everywhere?

You view is limited in scope and that makes it limiting in results.  Keeping real busy by matching low ball prices is not a business.  Can you make the same sales dollars with 5 times the profits by doing 1/4 the jobs?  If you learn to sell, yes.  If you don't, hope you enjoy your carpet cleaning JOB.  Nothing personal Mike.  But you just haven't developed that hunger to succeed yet. 

Do not fault others for their success, blaming them for your own inability to match their results because in your mind of minds you think what they do is wrong.  Instead learn from their example and push through your own biases to reach levels you never before thought possible.  Do what they do, exactly the way they do it and in exactly the order they do it.  Make your sales days count.  Your growth will be best if done by selling the differences that make your service so valuable, not by low balling your competition as if you were one more whore working the same corner trying for the same john.

You can be the example but only if your success is truly unsurpassed.  Lead by example, don't be lead by your prejudices.




 
I do have to say - you have rationalization down to a fine art Wink
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Originally posted by envirosafe envirosafe wrote:

 

Well, as I stated earlier - I rather be out of business than operate like the dishonest sleezballs that make up most of this industry (in my experience). I also prefer not to intrude, uninvited, into potential customer’s lives, especially with the lies that are nearly always involved over the phone. You seem to be arguing that you have to be a sleezball to do business...your prerogative I guess. I'm still have an ever-growing business and I've not had to sink into that cesspool...say what you like.

 

I offer two guarantees (1) I'll beat any legitimate, written, quote from any other licensed carpet cleaning company in Beaufort and (2) No quote you get over the phone is worth the paper it's written on.



Lovely sentiments I am sure.  The fact that you restrict which socially acceptable methods you will permit yourself to use when promoting your business means you have decided to infuse your values into the business and inhibit growth at the expense of all you hold dear like food and shelter for your family.  Valiant sacrifice although sadly all in vein.  None of your competition minds that you are uncomfortable with methods you believe are held in distaste by potential clients.  Really, they need you to hold to those principles which they scoop up all the chips you left on the table by folding to early.  Yep, NO problem.  See you at Mickey Ds pushing fries with every meal.  Or do you consider asking for the sale too intrusive for you and obviously for everyone else in the civilized world since everyone thinks like you and agrees you should become the moral leader for businesses everywhere?

You view is limited in scope and that makes it limiting in results.  Keeping real busy by matching low ball prices is not a business.  Can you make the same sales dollars with 5 times the profits by doing 1/4 the jobs?  If you learn to sell, yes.  If you don't, hope you enjoy your carpet cleaning JOB.  Nothing personal Mike.  But you just haven't developed that hunger to succeed yet. 

Do not fault others for their success, blaming them for your own inability to match their results because in your mind of minds you think what they do is wrong.  Instead learn from their example and push through your own biases to reach levels you never before thought possible.  Do what they do, exactly the way they do it and in exactly the order they do it.  Make your sales days count.  Your growth will be best if done by selling the differences that make your service so valuable, not by low balling your competition as if you were one more whore working the same corner trying for the same john.

You can be the example but only if your success is truly unsurpassed.  Lead by example, don't be lead by your prejudices.




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Originally posted by duckcountry duckcountry wrote:

Well envirosafe, you are not a candidate for a good carpet cleaning. 

Many craftsmen in several trades have thought themselves "ART-TEETZ" and set their work standards too high with prices to match.  I believe you have heard the label "starving artist"?  Unless the world has singled you out as the next great Michelangelo of carpet cleaning NEVER say NEVER. 

Flexibility in business is what some refer to as being open-minded.  Recognizing we are not like everyone else so our values are not going to be our customers values is seeing the big picture in living color.

Businesses understand that you leave your idealism at the door.


 

Well, as I stated earlier - I rather be out of business than operate like the dishonest sleezballs that make up most of this industry (in my experience). I also prefer not to intrude, uninvited, into potential customer’s lives, especially with the lies that are nearly always involved over the phone. You seem to be arguing that you have to be a sleezball to do business...your prerogative I guess. I'm still have an ever-growing business and I've not had to sink into that cesspool...say what you like.

 

I offer two guarantees (1) I'll beat any legitimate, written, quote from any other licensed carpet cleaning company in Beaufort and (2) No quote you get over the phone is worth the paper it's written on.

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Well envirosafe, you are not a candidate for a good carpet cleaning. 

Many craftsmen in several trades have thought themselves "ART-TEETZ" and set their work standards too high with prices to match.  I believe you have heard the label "starving artist"?  Unless the world has singled you out as the next great Michelangelo of carpet cleaning NEVER say NEVER. 

Flexibility in business is what some refer to as being open-minded.  Recognizing we are not like everyone else so our values are not going to be our customers values is seeing the big picture in living color.

Businesses understand that you leave your idealism at the door.


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I would NEVER do any business with any company that either uses telemarketing or unsolicited email. I would certainly NEVER want my business associated with either.
 
With all of the false and misleading advertising already widespread in this industry all we need is to look even sleazier!
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LOL duck..LOL
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