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Celestialcarpet
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Yah, my 360 does an awesome job. It tears through grease. I am still having a little trouble with the red stains removal though, anyone have any suggestions??? Am I using my red remover incorrectly, because it doesn't make it go completely away. -New Guy
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Steamy
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It looks like it will tear through grease. The dirt in the video is getting destroyed fast! What stain remover are you using?
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Celestialcarpet
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I have been using Mohawk for Grease, and Citrisolve as a booser on my prespray for high traffic areas. I have been using red remover on the red so far, and have had limited success. And yes the rotovac 360 is awesome. My clients love it. I only wish I had a truckmount to save time etc. Residential don't like you taking over the bathroom and look at you funny when you haul all the equipment in.
Anyhow, what do you use on stains?
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Steamy
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For red stains, I use Red Relief. It is a two bottle process-heat transfer set up that works good on most reds. I use several different presprays including Matrix Grand Slam SC, Prochem Ultrapac TLC. I do a lot of restaurants and the best thing I have found for heavy grease is Chemspec ENZ-ALL. Spray it on nice and hot and it will start breaking up grease on contact.
I use a truckmount and have an RX-20, but find myself using my wand more often. The RX-20 can be a little bulky to handle. The 360 looks more compact and movable.
What portable do you use?
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Celestialcarpet
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I have the speedster, and it does a great job. Not like a truck mount, but it does give me the versatility to go in and shut the doors behind me. Residential like that because then they save on the heating/cooling bill.
Thanks for all the tips. I have the red relief, I just must not be using it correctly. I just bought an Iron, so I will give that a shot.
What do you use on gum, and black ink?
The rotovac 360 is awesome! I have a few tricks should you decide to get one.
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Steamy
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Yes, use the iron with the red relief and I think you will be surprised at the difference. Most red stains will transfer fairly quick.
Black Ink? I wish I knew what to use. I have used (I'm not recommending or saying to use it!) alcohol and a towel to blot ink up and sometimes it works. Just be careful about color loss in the fibers. I probably would not try it on residential jobs though.
Gum? All I do is use my prespray heavy on the gum, let the chemical penetrate and put the wand to it. I have found that 230F pretty much takes care of gum.. I do have a scraper called the "Gum Getter" that works good at scraping and scrubbing the gum before extraction. You can find them at most distributors. If not, let me know, I can get one for you.
I'm going to try to demo a 360. Do you think it would work fast on caked on grease at restaurant jobs?
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Michael
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Citrus Solve sometimes works on that stuff. If it doesn't, I'll use P.I.G. from Bridgepoint. The little pint bottle should last you awhile, long enough to know whether or not you like it, and I think it's $11-$15. |
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Celestialcarpet
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As long as you have a good prespray and hot water the 360 will do the rest. Just today, I had an apartment that the other carpet guy told the management to replace it was so greasy. I purposely went to a line in the room so the manager could see side by side the before and after. Her jaw dropped, and she was like - "holy cow." Anyhow, I hope to line that client up.
I didn't know you had a 360. I thought you just had the rx20.
I am pretty new in the industry, as you can tell from my questions, but the 360 really does a great job. The demo video is no bull. I run mine using between 150 and 200 PSI which leaves the carpet a tad wetter, but what can you do? One trick that I use is...
I do a really heavy prespray diluted with some water, then I turn on the pump for water, and use the rotovac to agitate the heavy soil area. Then I turn on the vacs and that really makes it look great. Just one thing I have been dabbling with, but it works great!
Thanks for the tips. What is your market mostly...commercial?
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duckcountry
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Addressing the dark lines at the edges of light colored carpets:
That is probably filtration soil. Light colored carpets are the victims and usually you will find that your client burns candles, cheap candles. Pick up some filtration soil remover and follow the directions. Don't promise the customer anything but that you will try. The client will be impressed. If you can't get the 360 to flush the FSR chemical, use your wand along the edges then clean the carpet with your 360. Just a suggestion. Edited by duckcountry - 16/August/2006 at 10:42pm |
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Steamy
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Celestial,
Oh, I dont have a 360, I have an RX-20. I'm going to try to demo a 360 soon.
I do mainly commercial accounts such as bars, restaurants, offices etc. I do some apartments during the day light hours and maybe two residentials a week. I actually like the commercial stuff, but we would probably make more money if we did more homes.
As for leaving the carpet a tad wet-- maybe get some turbo fans to aid in drying completed rooms while you are cleaning other areas. Your method sounds good and I'm sure that apartment manager was happy with your results as you slammed that grease!
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Celestialcarpet
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I have two mytee blowers, but I usually run into trouble finding separate circuits to plug them in on. The extractor draws about 20, and the rotovac about 5, so the trip is hit once in a while. I try to run the extractor off the kitchen, which usually has a 30, but with a fridge, it happens once in a while. You will love the 360. How did you go about signing up the commercial clients, and how do you bid - sq foot, per job, eye balling it??? I think I might want to get some stuff like that, but don't really know where to start and how to bid.
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nextlevel
Newbie Joined: 21/June/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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Celestialcarpet,
I am in the Sacramento, Ca area. I use the 360 for residential clients, although I have just started. I haven't actually used the 360 to clean a customers home, but have extensive experience cleaning my son's room. How long did it take you to get used to using the extractor and 360 as a unit? I've been playing with the 360 & Mytee 1003DX extractor for two days now, just on my son's room, trying different prespray's, rinses. Learning the details of filling, and emptying the extractor, you splash, and all that type of stuff. The stuff you want to know before actually going into a customers home to use the equipment. I must admit I am a wide eyed baby in this field, and I'm full of questions and excitment. It is a great industry to be in from all that I've experienced so far with customers out out in the field. How does the customer react when a breaker is blown? I was afraid of this too, so I went out and bought a 6500 watt generator, probably a bit over kill, but hey, no more blown breakers. I really like the freedom of not having to hookup to the customers electric. It feels more "truckmount" like because I leave the generator outside in the van while I clean. Have you had to take the filter off in the Mytee, inside the waste tank? Its a pain in the butt, but I was told that I could cut the bottom of it off and let the water flow from the vac to the waste tank freely. Just keep the length on it so that it directs any carpet fibers down, close the bottom of the tank where the waste water is so that it does not involuntarily get into the vacuum motors and all should be good. Ninja, and some others do not use such a filter in there machine, so this should be fine. I like the cutting idea. What prespray solution mix ratio are you using? Are you using a hydroforce, or mytee supplied generic hydroforce, or pump-up sprayer? Its good to know that someone actually uses the Rotovac 360, it's a great tool. Your right it does eat through dirt and grime with the right cleaner. |
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Celestialcarpet
Newbie Joined: 13/August/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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Yah, the power supply was probably overkill, but most homes have updated electrical, ie a breaker box, not fuses. Breakers are easy because the are just a matter of flicking a switch, fuses on the other hand, I don't care to ever deal with. I tap into the kitchen with my extractor line, and use a hall on the other side of the house for the 360 and for the most part, it has not been a problem. I ran floor buffers for a while so the heel-toe sensitivity of the 360 wasn't new. Just think to yourself, if you are sweating, you are NOT doing it right. The rotovac 360 swings really nice, let it do all the work. Don't fight the machine, and limit your herky jearky movements. Relax, and let the machine do the work. As for chemicals. I use liquapro as a shampoo, mohawk for grease, and citisolve as a prespray booster. One trick I use is, I only add chemicals to the sprayer, not my extractor. The only thing that goes in my tank is fresh water, and dirty water coming out. I just splash a little bit of chemical in my sprayer, and go nuts. I bought my sprayer at menards for about $20 I think. I add about 2 oz of the above listed chemicals, and dilute it with about a half gallon of water, and use it as my prespray. Then I apply the chemical heavy where I need to, and light were I don't. It will save you some $. One other trick I have discovered is, turn on the pump on your extractor and use the rotovac to agitate the chemicals in while you apply water. Then kick on the vacs and rinse the carpets out.
Have you given any thought about how you are going to get gigs/jobs yet?
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nextlevel
Newbie Joined: 21/June/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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I started with flyers which have actually turned out the expected 1% turnout ratio. Some friends of mine and I put out 700 flyer one morning, and so far I've received 7 calls, and completed 3, 4 still scheduled out later in the month. I surprised myself by closing everyone. I know this won't last long but hey it feels good right now.
The method you mention, I've heard it before, it really work uh? I haven't had the opportunity to try it. I have a commercial job tomorrow. I will use an Olefin Prespray for that. So using the 360 as just an agitator, and extractor is working for you. I may try that out. One really tough traffic areas it still gets the job done? Hey, any idea of how many times you are typically filling and emptying on a residential 4-5 room job, plus a couple of hallways, and a few stairs. |
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