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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/November/2004 at 11:25pm
Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

John:  My son has almost taken over.  The good thing after awhile people just call and ask for him.  That never happened when I had someone else on the truck. I had the same man for over 5 years on one truck and still I was the one called. So I think a family member is a different comparson than a stranger.Guitar
wow doug you've been there and done that... thank you for such a great reply...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote doug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/November/2004 at 5:08pm
John:  My son has almost taken over.  The good thing after awhile people just call and ask for him.  That never happened when I had someone else on the truck. I had the same man for over 5 years on one truck and still I was the one called. So I think a family member is a different comparson than a stranger.Guitar
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but thats your family man.... put a stranger on the truck and have someone else do the call every year and see what happens...

the customer and your daughter can relate through you... right off the bat the have something to talk about...john the pad man

that was the pad that John built



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PadMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/November/2004 at 4:29pm
Last year I got off the truck and my daughter took over, she hasn't lost any customers either, you need to do and say something that helps them remember you forever. Interaction and knowledge and friendliness all are a part.
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When it comes to uilding customers... people want an personal approach... they will clean with the same guy for 10 years... but they won't clean with the same company for ten years...

I don't know if you get it.....sometimes I get lost in the moment too

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Padman... for the small guy maybe not...but for the big company... customers will always play the field...

Commercial customers love our written quotes

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PadMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27/October/2004 at 8:50pm

Me thinhks you guys are doing something wrong ...LOL

If you are not getting loyalty maybe you need to CHANGE something, we live by the loyalty of our customers, always have.

 

Referrals are from MUCH more than just clean carpet, how do you interact with your customers? How do you set yourself apart? WHY should they call you again and again... I know why my customers do, now you have to give YOUR customers a reason too.

 

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Customers will try another cleaner even if your good... they will try a few then most times come back to you... people are always looking for better and cheaper.... That includes me, I guess it's a part of human nature..

If they don't try anyone else how will they know your good???

To keep a customer you actually have to love them... they need to feel that you love them and will do everything in your power to do a phenomenal job.

I believe you have to be professional, yet sensitive, you have to be able to anticipate , you have to be able to read body language and facial expressions.

and trust me every customer wants to feel special..... you have to convey to them that you want to clean their dirty carpet and do it with a smile..

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote doug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26/October/2004 at 3:35pm
Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

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niche is everyone who wants their carpet cleaned for me... referrals are nice but that alone will not keep food on the table...

Starting a business from the ground... you have no customers so where are the referrals going to come from...???? how are you going to get the exposure you need??? You can only get referrals if you have customers.

you can only get customers if you advertise...For the part time or weekend cleaner referrals are great but for those that need the calls to put gas in the tank and food on the table you have to think bigger.

Truthfully sometimes word of mouth falls on def ears

Mr. Steamer:  Very good responce.  Living in a smaller market people startup everyday.  People jump ship and try them. "new broom sweeps cleaner" they say.  But for how long?  I think in some cases you are only as good till a cheaper price comes along.  Loyalty is not like it was 10 or 15 yasr ago.  Things have changed.  I have had calls asking if it was my company was coming to do their cleaning as they could not remember who the called?  I stated we have done your cleaning in the past.  Their responce" someone in the office used this company and they did a good job and they are cheap. No sence going on as I will have to listen to the cleaners who will say their clients would kill their first born rather than call another carpet cleaner.Guitar

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Niche niche niche... thats all I can here...who or where is this niche market.  I can tell you right now in the GTA... there are customers out there that don't know who to call... the don't know the GMONEYS... they don't know the Splash n Dashes... they only know the Co. with the big ad.

niche is everyone who wants their carpet cleaned for me... referrals are nice but that alone will not keep food on the table...

Starting a business from the ground... you have no customers so where are the referrals going to come from...???? how are you going to get the exposure you need??? You can only get referrals if you have customers.

you can only get customers if you advertise...For the part time or weekend cleaner referrals are great but for those that need the calls to put gas in the tank and food on the table you have to think bigger.

Truthfully sometimes word of mouth falls on def ears

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Steamer you can build a successful business without mass advertising and spending tens of thousands.  Yes advertising is important but not the be all and end all.  If you have deep pockets and name recognition like Sears then you can throw tons on money into Valpack advertising.  It seems to attract the lowest common denominator if you ask me.  I have used this form of advertising before.

The name of the game is referalls and by getting on the phone and exhausting your warm market, your business will build steadily.  For example, success can be achieved by aligning yourself with a company that already has a database of customers and offering a complimentary service and a small percentage. 

By focussing on a niche market and refusing to get down in the trenches with the bargain hunters, your life will be easier.  And if you ever choose to expand beyond a one man show then the margins are there to pay someone so they remain happy and loyal.

Grout cleaning can be lucrative.  It pays much more than carpet cleaning and in my opinion is usually easier.



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Never meant to belittle Steamer with my "that's a crock" response.

 

but it was in response that ONLY Americans will pay for good service....which I still believe to be untrue.

 

then again,my competition is only aboot 15-20 other CC's

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