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Alexarz
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I recently bought a Mytee M5 as well as the Air Hog booster. I measured cfm with the combination and it yielded about 320 cfm's. For the last decade or so, I have been using truckmounts with my newest one being a ProChem Everest 650 hp. Like a few other members, I am in a good situation to make a call on this issue.
First, let me say that this choice can depend a lot on where you are located. I am in central FL and the houses here are mostly of newer designs and there are not any electrical issues to deal with. If you live in an area where electricity is a big problem due to older houses, you have to weigh this factor in. Another factor here is that most of the houses are one story and the landscape is flat. In areas with lots of stairs, a portable can be a pain in the a$$.
Ok, so lets rule out the electricity and landscape issues and concentrate solely on the machines. With the release of the RV360i, combined with a few of the high powered portables of today, I can honestly say that it does not make any sense at all to use a truckmount as your primary unit. If you are fortunate to have the means to own more than one van, by all means having one of each is ideal. Sometimes a truckmount is simply easier to use and sometimes a portable will save some headache. As far as cleaning quality goes, it is not an issue. With my Certified Pile Lifter, RV360i and Mytee M5 with booster, I can do a much better job than ANY truckmount using a wand. The RV360i is a far bigger advantage than a TM is and the Mytee combination allows very similar dry times to a TM. A Recoil with booster should give similar results.
In the past, things were different but times are changing. We only use our truckmount vans on special instances at this point and have received nothing less than raves from our customers.
For those about to enter the business, it does not make any sense to spend 10 times the money on a truckmount. Having said this, a portable user has to do his best to make his van setup as efficient as possible. We use the Mytee electrical adapter and zip-tie two 25' electrical cords together to make portable setup fast and easy. We also have quick connects on the waste hose as well as the incoming fresh water hose. Personally, I don't believe in one-man crews and if you are using a portable, it is even more important to have a 2 man crew.
Consider the strategy of survival in this business. While many of your competitors are spending about $1000 a month on gasoline, not to mention some are making a $500 monthly equipment payment, they are under far more pressure than you if you are using a portable and a more fuel efficient van. I use a Mercedes Sprinter, which gets 22-24 mpg overall, about double that of a domestic van. With the truckmount gulping down a few gallons per hour, I am saving about $700 a month just on fuel, per van.
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Alexarz
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I want to add that using a portable also saves wear and tear on your truckmount so it can be used on the big jobs where it is more necessary. It doesn't make any sense to be wearing out yout TM on upholstery jobs does it?
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Michael
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That's exactly what Doug Heifferman said last time I took one of his classes.
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John L
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So your TM burns $48/day... in 8hrs..Mine only 1gal/hr if that! Ok with the M12/M5 it would be 12hrs to do the same amount of work with slower dry times.
4hrs extra cleaning per day X what your worth per hour? Are you really saving? No.
15x4=60hrs extra time cleaning a month. WOW! 60hrs x Your worth $50 = $3000.
3000-700=2300.00 extra you could have made.........
Gas isn't an issue as much as time.... Well, not to me anyways.
By the way, Customer's pay for my gas all the time..!
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Alexarz
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The drying times are not an issue. They are very close and you can use Airpaths to speed things up. On days when you have to move more quickly, it is better to use the truckmount but only if you are really slammed. The only significant advantage of the TM is set up and tear down time. With two people, it might add up to 20 or 30 minutes per job at the most. Think about all the weight in your van and the wear and tear that it causes. There are MANY advantages of a portable van setup and only one or two disadvantages. |
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nightrider
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Alexarz.....you're a CLOWN , you have No idea about business, No strategy on how to make money, and absolutely No concept of marketing. Sounds to me that you just wanted to make a post and impress everybody with your equipment and boast your verbal diarrhea while you chatter your teeth with fantasy and lies.
Only a fool would try cost cutting to make money, have you ever seen a chef sell off or don't use his kitchen equipment because it cost to much to operate to generate his business.
If you do have a Sprinter as a truckmount, I know you're a foolish businessman, but not using it and market business for it's operation and then posts a thread on KleenKuip that a portable makes you more money just confirms that you're an idiot without a clue of the world around you.
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Alexarz
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Nightrider, first of all, your sentence structure is so absurdly deficient that I cannot understand some of what you are trying to say but let me address the part that is readable.
If I am such a dumb businessman, why am I one of the only survivors in my area since I moved here in 1995? Why don't you and I compare assets and net worth and see which one of us comes out ahead, Mr Know-it-all? Who even mentioned marketing? Do you honestly think that most customers care at all about the difference between a truckmount or portable? If one guy gets their carpet perfectly clean and it dries very quickly, do you think they are going to second guess what equipment he used? The fact is, performance between a truckmount and a high powered portable is close enough that other factors become more important.
My guess is that you are a typical blue collar grunt who is riddled with insecurities and quite possibly, runaway alcoholism. Your unprovoked rage is quite telling and I would be lying if I did not admit to enjoying the fact that I was the cause of this particular meltdown of yours.
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Alexarz
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I just did a little research and discovered that Nightrider is the newb who thinks he can clean restaurant carpets with only water! LMAO!! Isn't it hilarious that this simple minded grunt thinks he knows something about the carpet cleaning business? Bravo, you industry scrub, you! You haven't any credibility, Tide Boy! LMFAO!!
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This thread should be interesting.
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nightrider
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Instead of doing research on Nightrider, you should have done research on yourself and the cleaning industry, this way at this time you would not be in a situation of not knowing what to do with a truckmount that sits in your driveway with no work.
I learned many many years ago, that people who boast about what they have.......... HAVE NOTHING. That's what you have, if you want to prove me and this forum wrong, post a pic of your fantasy truck with this months front page of a newspaper, and let's check on your credibility.
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Good post Nightrider ! And good Luck on the proof you want.
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doug
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Just My opinion
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nightrider
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Doug, Alexarz is not me, neither is Chay.....I know you think so, but I haven't pulled that trick in over a year.
By the way Doug, how is retirement.....are you keeping well. Do you still do anything as far as work is concerned or just relaxing and working around the house. We all want to know what the King of the one-liners is up to. Or did you post just to add another feather in your 32,500 post hat. lol ( that's alot of posts )
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