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Topic: OP machine NEW $995
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Subject: OP machine NEW $995
Date Posted: 25/July/2005 at 7:55pm

is this as good as padman's

they even have a whole set-up for $1500 bucks....

http://www.worldofclean.com - www.worldofclean.com



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 25/July/2005 at 7:55pm
maybe this is Kenny's

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 25/July/2005 at 8:31pm
kENNY'S OP HAS ARRIVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Posted By: Dennis Conner
Date Posted: 25/July/2005 at 8:56pm

This ain't kenni's...

 

He can't maintain a busines selling his little plastic tubing with a slit in it, he claimed the OP was coming out this past spring...don't hold your breath guys!

 



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 25/July/2005 at 10:34pm
That is not a Kenny it is a Hruby?? I thought Hruby was a VW with a mind of it's own. Now it is an op machine with no brains???

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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 12:04am
Actually Steamer........that is the machine that Ted is selling.....he calls it the Activator.......should be on the site this week.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 9:05am
I like the price CHEAP!

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 10:51am
Go figure?? Is it in your price range yet?? 

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 12:01pm
cheap is always in my price range

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Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 5:06pm

Yes Steamer the cats out of the bag.  The Hruby machine is Kleen Kuips Crystal Dry Cleaning Process Unit  "The Activator" with a sexy look and Canadian legal with CSA APPROVAL.

We would love to sell you one, but we sold out our first shipment. We do have our demo unit to see. More units have been ordered. $1,695.00 or $1,995.00 with package that consist of 25 Heavy duty Egyptian pads.

The very first unit sold was to our customer with a Vortex.  Now he says his arsenal is complete.  We wish him well.



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 5:36pm
tell us more TED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 6:20pm

Steamer........they are now in your price range.....inexpensive and profitable for you.    The proof is in the pudding.

I will be expecting a call from you tommorow......who knows it may lead to a Vortex



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 9:14pm

Vortex have you lost your mind Adwa....

I don't need one of those... BIG WASTE of MONEY



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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 10:50pm
I thought it was the TM to envy

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 10:53pm

hell no... I'm building my next one..... that will be one to envy....

all the power without all the bull



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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 10:54pm
Will it be big and shinny........like Cleanmores

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 10:56pm

Just like cleanmores...

It'll be steamers knock off....

I've already bought some stainless for the front plate... I going to start it in Jan...when its slow

should be ready for spring next year



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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 26/July/2005 at 11:50pm
So if it's a sucess......are you going to then take orders.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 27/July/2005 at 7:31am

NO.... just for me... I'm going to make 3...and thats it...

I'm just shopping for the price on a nice 4 banger engine....

#5 blower

I already know where to get the cat pump...

I'm on my way with esso



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 28/July/2005 at 7:26am
Originally posted by Carpetologist Carpetologist wrote:

Yes Steamer the cats loat his balls.  The Hruby machine is Kleen Kuips Crystal ball of Cleaning   "The Cultivator" with it's s**ty look and is illegal in Canada  with CISSIS DISSAPPROVAL.

We would love to give you one, but they repossed  our first shipment. We do have our demo unit to see. More units have been ordered. $1,695.00 or $1,995.00 with package that consist of 25  Egyptian terrorists.

The very first unit sold was to our customer looking for  a Kotex.  Now he says his arse is complete.  We wish him well.



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/July/2005 at 8:16am


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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 31/July/2005 at 2:32pm
The Hruby machine is not a knockoff, but a COPY of the old CCS Ocsillators. It has to older slower oscillation.

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/July/2005 at 3:19pm
PadMan so what you are saying is this is old technology?  In a new wrapper?

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/July/2005 at 6:33pm
I notice padman hasn't been around for a while....

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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 31/July/2005 at 6:43pm

I have been on a trip to California,  yes this is old technology and even most of the wrapper is old.

 

It is a cheap way to get into OP, however, it is SLOW.

 

One reason we have built the new machines is because cleaners live and die by the square foot cleaned an hour.



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Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 10:50am

I thought you still sold more of the smaller machines John??

 



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 11:25am
Originally posted by PadMan PadMan wrote:

The Hruby machine is not a knockoff, but a COPY of the old CCS Ocsillators. It has to older slower oscillation.
TED this man said your stuff is CRAP

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 11:27am
Originally posted by PadMan PadMan wrote:

I have been on a trip to California,  yes this is old technology and even most of the wrapper is old.

 

It is a cheap way to get into OP, however, it is SLOW.

 

One reason we have built the new machines is because cleaners live and die by the square foot cleaned an hour.

I knew you when you had the old machine... you swore by it then....hhhhhhmmmmmmm I knew it was slow... but you said NO NO NO!

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 12:27pm
I am happy with my PadMan machine.

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Posted By: roundpadgirl
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

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I knew you when you had the old machine... you swore by it then....hhhhhhmmmmmmm I knew it was slow... but you said NO NO NO![/QUOTE]

THEN it WAS the best in speed and reliability. Since then we increased oscillation and power with the Conquerors. The Brute is improved in both even more,  it's balance was changed to put weight on the wheels to make using it even easier, and it also has an on board sprayer - making commercial encap quick and efficient.

With it's 1/2 HP motor and original oscillation, the Hruby is outpowered by both the 3/4 HP and 1H/P Conquerors.

It is NOTHING like the Brute.

However, as a startup, entry level OP, it is a good price. 

Barb


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 2:27pm

Padwoman to the rescue!!!!!!!!!!!! da dana NA!!!!!!!

that was just 6 months back.... I said it looked slow... and Paddaddy said no no no...  but now the same machine is snail paced...

you don't know what to buy...

I'm glad I'm on the fence... I'm glad I waited..

 



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 3:34pm
Must be a well built fence??

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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 5:37pm

No way Steamer, the Blue CCS oscillators which are IDENTICAL in oscillation to the hurby or challenger machines, were SLOW.

When that is ALL there was, there was nothing to compare with. But for 3 years we have had the Conquerors and they changed everything, now the Brutes are another step up... You still using a portable Steamer??

 

Or did you decide to move up when they made a better machine?



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 6:32pm

I want the best bang for my buck....

I don't need to get ripped...

I can by a cheaper machine and just change the motor....

no biggy...how much does a spray tank cost to add??? nothing much..

why are your new machine 3X's this price???

for what???

I can't see it



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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 7:34pm

You ain't too bright are you Steamer?

I want the best bang for my buck....

And how is 1199.99 for a machine LESS bang for the bucK?

I don't need to get ripped...

And how does that have ANY THING to do with this conversation?

I can by a cheaper machine and just change the motor....

You don't listen too good, you can put a 5 hp motor on it and it doesn't change the cleaning.... PAY ATTENTION!

no biggy...how much does a spray tank cost to add??? nothing much..

$550.00 for the spray system, two jets, 4 gallon tank, filters, 60 psi pump etc...

why are your new machine 3X's this price???

If you are comparing machines, then you simply have NO CLUE what you are talking about, the Brute will knock down 3 times the square footage, but hey, you work cheap now, so why stop?

for what???

Money steamer, that lil thing that makes a difference between paying bills and making good money..

I can't see it

 

OBVIOUSLY!

 



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 11:10pm

Padman always on the attack... you change your story every day

you related to Kenny????

And how is 1199.99 for a machine LESS bang for the bucK?

your new brute machine is 2,145 US not 1199.99( I'm not talking comparable machine) I'm talking the flag ship machine that makes it well over 3000 Canadian with shipping way more than 950 Canadian

And how does that have ANY THING to do with this conversation?

Well you swore by the same machine you call crap now... if it's crap now it was crap then when you where promoting it as the best and for more money

You don't listen too good, you can put a 5 hp motor on it and it doesn't change the cleaning.... PAY ATTENTION!

"With it's 1/2 HP motor and original oscillation, the Hruby is outpowered by both the 3/4 HP and 1H/P Conquerors.

It is NOTHING like the Brute "

this is what was said by a member of your family... I know it's the oscillation inside why should that cost 3X MORE.

I don't think you can get a 5hp in 110 operation that would have to be 220

The bigger motor helps with the load they all only spin 1750 or 3475 rpm...it doesn't matter about the horse power...but don't tell me it wouldn't spin faster if your getting more rpm from you motor even with the gearing of oscillation

you don't build them anyways so how do you know???

“Industrial 1 HP Motor”!
The Brute is powered by an Industrial 1 HP motor that is overpowered, no bogging down and no over heating.

another quote right from your website, you said I don't listen but here you say the bigger motor is for bogging down and over heating

550.00 for the spray system, two jets, 4 gallon tank, filters, 60 psi pump etc...

wow for a 30 dollar electric portable pump...and a 10 dollar filter... and a couple of spray jets... wow...but now its a system worth 550

If you are comparing machines, then you simply have NO CLUE what you are talking about, the Brute will knock down 3 times the square footage, but hey, you work cheap now, so why stop?

Sure we can't talk like men Throw in the insult... but if I had bought a OP machine 6 months ago I'd be pretty pissed of now... so I guess all those people that bought your lesser machine are making 3 times less than what they should

Money steamer, that lil thing that makes a difference between paying bills and making good money..

I asked why the brute is way more money???the above answer is what you gave me.

to me its over priced!! change the gearing or what ever that makes it osilate... add a fancy dancy spray system... go for a bigger motor boom more money

OBVIOUSLY! Your machine is over priced!

doing the best padding you can... your pockets

then you want to talk to people(the consumer) like they are dumb

shame on you... I'd have a few other choice words for you, but I know you claim that you are a person of god, and thats what I'll respect and nothing else



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 11:19pm

You ain't too bright are you Steamer?

I can still afford internet service.....this is the way a man of god reasons with someone....

question his methods and his machine

SHAME!



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 1:35am
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2199 usd about 2700 cdn I don't know what to think... looks good... I would love to have one but man I still find the price out of range.. with the pads will run well over 3500..

But you have to look at the fact you'll make money off it and most likely will make it all back...

I guess it uses a special pre-spray???

not even a year ago... this machine was king... now if you got one you got a slow piece of crap...

I was that close to buying crap for all that money bahahahaha

Diva and Gmoney are no where to be seen in the GTA, I'm still doing my thing with HWE...lololololololololo.ololol

 

 



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 1:38am

padman I'm a dumb canadian still waiting for OP to take over the world

it hasn't happened yet...I've seen no sign of Op in the GTA and no ones been advertising it

 



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 9:28am

well Padman I see you came and left... no reply???I've been waiting and watching

all consumers are ingnorant.  So I don't feel like spending 3X's the money for your glorified rotor.

things are catching up...I guess more competition will help to lower the riduculous price...

I'm still here, doing just fine with my HWE.

when I mention OP to my customers ...they look at me funny and say   "the washroom is down the hall"



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 10:33am
still waiting??? I'm leave tonight for Florida...don't tell me I'm going to have to stop at an internet cafe

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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 11:07am

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Padman always on the attack... you change your story every day

you related to Kenny????

No change of story, just a failure on your part Steamer to understand the changes!

And how is 1199.99 for a machine LESS bang for the bucK?

your new brute machine is 2,145 US not 1199.99( I'm not talking comparable machine) I'm talking the flag ship machine that makes it well over 3000 Canadian with shipping way more than 950 Canadian

Steamer, at least be logical, if you want a pickup to carry dirt from one place to another BUY IT, but if someone wants a dumptruck to do the same thing much quicker and easier... don't degrade the guy for investing in a better dirt mover!

And how does that have ANY THING to do with this conversation?

Well you swore by the same machine you call crap now... if it's crap now it was crap then when you where promoting it as the best and for more money

You are simply WRONG, and your further posts below show you don't even understand what machine YOU are talking about.

You don't listen too good, you can put a 5 hp motor on it and it doesn't change the cleaning.... PAY ATTENTION!

"With it's 1/2 HP motor and original oscillation, the Hruby is outpowered by both the 3/4 HP and 1H/P Conquerors.

It is NOTHING like the Brute "

this is what was said by a member of your family... I know it's the oscillation inside why should that cost 3X MORE.

I don't think you can get a 5hp in 110 operation that would have to be 220

The bigger motor helps with the load they all only spin 1750 or 3475 rpm...it doesn't matter about the horse power...but don't tell me it wouldn't spin faster if your getting more rpm from you motor even with the gearing of oscillation

you don't build them anyways so how do you know???

"Industrial 1 HP Motor"!
The Brute is powered by an Industrial 1 HP motor that is overpowered, no bogging down and no over heating.

another quote right from your website, you said I don't listen but here you say the bigger motor is for bogging down and over heating

Wow, I could never have shown or typed you MISUNDERSTANDING of the machines better than you!

A 1/3 or 1/2 hp motor will run the competitors machines, it won't even TURN ours.. WHY is that Steamer?

Also, you want to purchase a machine that is a COPY of anothers work and pay for NO research and development yet you seem to complain

when the newer machines that DO CHARGE for research and development will kick thier butt. No good business sense in my book.

550.00 for the spray system, two jets, 4 gallon tank, filters, 60 psi pump etc...

wow for a 30 dollar electric portable pump...and a 10 dollar filter... and a couple of spray jets... wow...but now its a system worth 550

Go ahead and make one....LOL, then you will realize how foolish that statement was..

If you are comparing machines, then you simply have NO CLUE what you are talking about, the Brute will knock down 3 times the square footage, but hey, you work cheap now, so why stop?

Sure we can't talk like men Throw in the insult... but if I had bought a OP machine 6 months ago I'd be pretty pissed of now... so I guess all those people that bought your lesser machine are making 3 times less than what they should

Why? First off, unless you were purchasing a low cost oscillator, you would have NO reason to be upset, the Conqueror models are the BEST and FASTEST residential OP's built. STILL ARE...

 

Money steamer, that lil thing that makes a difference between paying bills and making good money..

I asked why the brute is way more money???the above answer is what you gave me.

to me its over priced!! change the gearing or what ever that makes it osilate... add a fancy dancy spray system... go for a bigger motor boom more money

OBVIOUSLY! Your machine is over priced!

Well Steamer, again, if you want ot spend 995.00 on a slow machine, or a "pickup" or 1999.00 on a Conqueror (a one ton dump) or if you want to invest 2410.00 on a Brute (2 ton dump) you get what you pay for. Your mentality would suggest to me you should purchase a pickup and then have reason to complain about being SLOW and it taking you a long time to do what others don't take long to do.

doing the best padding you can... your pockets

then you want to talk to people(the consumer) like they are dumb

Your attacks are unwarranted and your understanding of the machines and pricing show a lack of knowledge of what you are talking about, what would YOU call that?

shame on you... I'd have a few other choice words for you, but I know you claim that you are a person of god, and thats what I'll respect and nothing else

I am sure you do.. but if you read and can understand what you are reading, you will see your complaints are unwarranted.

I don't know what to think... looks good... I would love to have one but man I still find the price out of range.. with the pads will run well over 3500..

But you have to look at the fact you'll make money off it and most likely will make it all back...

I guess it uses a special pre-spray???

That machine would make you a lot of money, it is HIGHSPEED and our FLAGSHIP machine for residential and light commercial.

not even a year ago... this machine was king... now if you got one you got a slow piece of crap...

I was that close to buying crap for all that money bahahahaha

You address several machines, and yet they are NOT comparable, your claims of THIS machine being king refers to a different machine

than you were discussing earlier. Your confusion on the matter does not equate to me scamming, overpricing or anything else.

Diva and Gmoney are no where to be seen in the GTA, I'm still doing my thing with HWE...lololololololololo.ololol

Oh Steamer, You SHOULD get your facts straight before you open your mouth, while you are here complaining and attacking, they are out IN THE WORKPLACE making good money, they have two machines, a BOSS and a Commercial 17" Breeze, they are doing a ton of grout and tile work and now are considering adding two 20" Brutes to their arsenal because many of thier commercial jobs are 30,000 - 70,000 square feet. You think you know what is going on in the GTA? I think not, you would have to spend more time in the workplace to get a handle on that. The GTA is responsible for a large part of our sales, Brutes have gone there like no where else, they have seen the value and are making the money, you on the other hand are HERE, complaining and griping and comparing apples to donuts and not even keeping in step with what is happening in YOUR area.

I doubt you clean anywhere NEAR what they clean, and you have been in business how long?

well Padman I see you came and left... no reply???I've been waiting and watching

all consumers are ingnorant. So I don't feel like spending 3X's the money for your glorified rotor.

Ignorance is bliss Steamer and I hope you purchase a slow outdated OP. You could be happy with nothing else.

things are catching up...I guess more competition will help to lower the riduculous price...

Price is too high for you? LOL, you think the industry owes you a free ride? You are willing to purchase a copy of oldworld techniiques but not pay for a machine that will make you real money? How smart is that?

A Hruby will do 300-400 square feet an hour of regular cleaning

A Conqueror will do 500-600 square feet an hour

A commercial breezer will do 600-800 square feet and hour

A brute will do 900-1200 square feet an hour.

Now use a little of YOUR math to figure out which is the better deal.

Of course, if (as I suspect) you are sitting home and not doing a lot, then the cheapest is ALWAYS the better deal for you.

But for those who are out there working and putting down the square feet, your rational is flawed and foolish. DO the MATH.

I'm still here, doing just fine with my HWE.

when I mention OP to my customers ...they look at me funny and say "the washroom is down the hall"

Just keep telling yourself that Steamer, your mind is closed and your math is flawed, but YOU have all the answers!



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 11:52am

throw up that big post Padman... your machine is still over priced. plain and simple... yes you've made a faster machine, but really at what additional cost.

do you build the machines padman????

answer that one question.

I'm too dumb to understand that novel you've written in your last post.

all I asked intially was if the machine I posted the pic of was comparable to your machine... but I see it has caused you to loose your faith.

I don't have the answers but it doesn't seem that you do either.

it's been over a year here in the GTA and op cleaning has not had any kind of effect on me.

what ever Padman, you can call people dumb ignorant,mathstupid all you want. with all your bull know wonder you need a pad to wipe it all up.

no different from Ken... every new try is just a newer better model

just keep telling yourself that you have the best op machine at the best possible price

GTA is a big place.... I'm sure less than 0.00001% of commercial buildings are being cleaned with op and even less residential



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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 1:42pm
no different from Ken...


Gee , thanks Steamer.............

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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 1:43pm

Well every so often it comes time to call it like one sees it, you want to be a dumb ass, by all means don't let me stop you.

 

I KNOW my business, but I question whether you have a clue about yours from your posting, you don't like truth, no answers, you just like rotating questions to avoid an issue.

 

As to the building of my machines, I built them COMPLETELY for many years, then subbed much of the work out, then designed and had built with me involved every step of the way. But is that really an issue?

The industry says who has the best OP, and I stand by what my USERS say, not by what someone looking for a reason to degrade someone else says.,

 

Good day Steamer!

You don't like using logic or common sense, thus there is no need to discuss anything further.

 



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 8:14pm

What ever Padman

you might be able to shuck and jive those Americans, and maybe alot of those Canadians(from what your saying)

taking all you over priced models into consideration, what makes them so special no more hardware than a regular rotor.

You want to be the PADGOD, anyone that questions you is unable to make an informed decision.

OP is not a cult, you are not it's leader

Padman welcome to the world of competition

padman says:The Hruby machine is not a knockoff, but a COPY of the old CCS Ocsillators. It has to older slower oscillation.

how would you know that unless.....unless you opened it

or one of the companies you sub to let your design slip.

those where your first comments, sure seems like someone who feels threatend to me.

just like you did Padman, someones going to crap open that big bad brute and make a copy

what an idiot, but yet you call me fool



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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 8:36pm

Well now I guess I should start with "Hey dumby" but will chose to start with

 

Steamer, Hruby bought their business from my cousin, they used our machines for many years, then their son decided to build them. They used the same molds..But that would be hard for you to understand bigshot as YOU have all the answers.

 

What have YOU offered to or for ANYONE?

 

How things LOOK or appear to you are of no consequence, you have proven you can't even follow simple information to a conclusion.

You are too dang emotional for me.... THINK once instead of feeling..LOL



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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 9:57pm
Padman.........who was the inventor of the OP machine.........was it you???

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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 10:13pm
No Adwa, OP was invented decades ago, but not for carpet cleaning, it was used like now for floor sanding and such.

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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 10:22pm
But someone had to put that idea to a carpet........are you not going to take any credit for that.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 10:49pm
Originally posted by PadMan PadMan wrote:

Well now I guess I should start with "Hey dumby" but will chose to start with

 

Steamer, Hruby bought their business from my cousin, they used our machines for many years, then their son decided to build them. They used the same molds..But that would be hard for you to understand bigshot as YOU have all the answers.

 

What have YOU offered to or for ANYONE?

 

How things LOOK or appear to you are of no consequence, you have proven you can't even follow simple information to a conclusion.

You are too dang emotional for me.... THINK once instead of feeling..LOL

what do I care... I HWE not OP.... I can still afford my high speed internet connection.

I'm a potential customer, that may ask alot of dumb questions, and may come to alot of dumb conclusions

but if thats how you handle a customer, I wonder how the hell you sell anything

once again I'll just sit on the fence and wait, until I feel satisfied

I guess I'm not Cult ready

All you had to say is the Hruby is a good machine, but my new ones are better.

It's nothing more than you don't know how to talk to people, and weather or not the hruby is your friends design or cousins old business or etc. you still seem to be alittle scared to me of any type of new competition.

your high and mighty and nasty... you've been on the front of cleanfax..and now the small men don't matter

I'll pray for you Padman,



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Posted By: roundpadgirl
Date Posted: 03/August/2005 at 12:10am
Steamer, I tried to give you a simple answer, and even told you that for an entry level Op, the Hruby was a good price.

Your post and Pic from october are NOT the machine that of our that Hruby is in any way similar to. That was a pic of a Conqueror, not the original CCS machine.

The Hruby is the most similar to our ORIGINAL blue op with the 1/3 hp motor - even our 1/2 HP upgraded motor with increased oscillation is more efficient, and we havent built them in years - they were our original machine that John and Dad had cleaned with for 30 years.

Yes, since then we have come out with new residential and commercial machines.  Our goal is to keep making them more efficient. Believe it or not, profit margin was better on the original - I know, the bookwork is my job.

Having said all that, I DO hope you enjoy OP'ing. But, don't ever fool yourself that you bought the equivalent of a Conqueror. The original CCS, yes, but not anthing more advanced than that.


Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 03/August/2005 at 9:20am
Steamer, I am not "handling" a customer, rather "handling" an antagonist!

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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 03/August/2005 at 9:41am

Adwa, Argo and Company used a small square orbital machine, they still do. It is much too light and small for any decent size carpet jobs, but it still cleans well.

 



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/August/2005 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by PadMan PadMan wrote:

Steamer, I am not "handling" a customer, rather "handling" an antagonist!
thanks padman... don't listen to me I'm just boosting my post numbers

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Posted By: Harry
Date Posted: 09/August/2005 at 4:15pm

get some Kenny Lips Steamer....it appears, that is about all you can afford.

If you really want to learn, trying reading more and posting less.

 

 



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