Nu Chevy Express Van 4.8 or 6.0
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Topic: Nu Chevy Express Van 4.8 or 6.0
Posted By: 77748
Subject: Nu Chevy Express Van 4.8 or 6.0
Date Posted: 03/December/2005 at 12:35am
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Hello fellow carpet cleaners ! About to make the big leap into a new Chevy Express Van 2500. The question is I am buying two of them one that I will be transferring my current entry cleanco charger and the other a new Bluewave and am wondering will the 4.8 liter do the job or go with the gas guzzling 6.0. I am one that had to learn the hard way and do this twice reason I had purchased a Chevy Astro Van 2000. After a wheel falling off on the freeway , Trans needing rebuilt and suspension upgrades it is time to move up and do it right the second time. Thanks for all the great advice I should have listened!!!!!!! |
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/December/2005 at 7:48am
I have an 03 and 05 with the 6 liter, but they are one ton extendeds. I don't find them as hard on gas as my older 350s were. They are very smooth and have lots of torque. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 03/December/2005 at 6:02pm
| Interesting the 4.8 is a v8 engine in the Chevy Express. If you can use a v6 and the 4.8 engine is a v8 this should do the job. Once again on a 3/4 ton and a slide in TM. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/December/2005 at 7:58pm
Just consider the weight. I would not put a slide in into a 3/4 ton van? when buying new it is I think $1000.00 more to go 1 ton and you get a heavy duty van. If you are getting it new make sure it has an auxullary fuel hookup on it for the slide in. If not it will cost you big time. I think it is a $50.00 or so option? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 03/December/2005 at 10:30pm
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Thanks Doug! You da Man!!! You usually have a one liner to go with it too cold out there? One ton van for the slide in for that big Bluewave Second van just have a entry livel Cleanco Charger light weight which will be the 3/4 Therefore the v8 4.8 liter is ok for both then right |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/December/2005 at 11:45pm
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4.8 is a light duty van... even though it a 2500 series....just do 1 ton for both it'll kill you in gas, because it's not built to carry the load of a slide in and water... hard on the tranny too...hard on all the parts ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 04/December/2005 at 1:45am
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This is great info Mr. Steamer and Doug. Do not want to do this a third time. This time I need to use this info from experienced people suh as you guys who have been in the game.Your honest true inputs. Sensible and realistic. Therefore my decision will be the Chevy Express 3500 with 6.0 Engines and not to look back. Less wear and tear and which has the power if needed. Thank you !!!!!!! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/December/2005 at 1:48pm
Don't forget the auxillary fuel option on the gas tank? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: blondie
Date Posted: 04/December/2005 at 1:53pm
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Posted By: blondie
Date Posted: 04/December/2005 at 1:56pm
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/December/2005 at 8:24pm
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What has this got to do with purchasing a van? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/December/2005 at 10:50pm
You need to put something in the van
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Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 04/December/2005 at 11:31pm
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Whow! How does this compare to what I am about to spend 18k on a new Bluewave. Three thousand dollars. Is this machine all that. |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 04/December/2005 at 11:50pm
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You talking about a Blueline ? ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 04/December/2005 at 11:55pm
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Yes, it is a Blueline and the model is a Bluewave. Is this better than the whitemagic commando? The BLUEwave was designed for the carpet cleaning and restoration professional, utilizing advanced heat exchange and heat flow technology. Powered by the dependable Liquid Cooled, cast iron Kubota industrial engine, it provides the power and performance of other truck mounts that are virtually twice it's size. Designed for single wand or multi tool operation, the BLUEwave utilizes the Gardner Denver TI-408 Tri-Flow blower and field proven CAT 3CP pump. It's no nonsense design provides the user a friendly, low maintenance, long lasting investment. Engine Water Cooled Kubota, 29 HP http://www.jondon.com/truck_mounts/quote_request.htm"> Vacuum Blower Gardner Denver Ti 408 Tri-Lobe Water Pump CAT 3CP, 4.3 GPM Chemical System Last Step Chemical Injection Heating System Two-Stage Heat Exchanger Recovery Tank 70 gallons | 70 gallons at shutdown |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 05/December/2005 at 11:17am
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You definately need a 1 ton for that? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 05/December/2005 at 11:37am
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it's alot nicer looking ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: blondie
Date Posted: 05/December/2005 at 2:14pm
| THANK YOU.............SOLD |
Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 18/December/2005 at 12:33am
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What option of a extra fuel tank when I purchased my 6.0 1 ton didn't see that as an option. Or are you saying the size of the fuel tank. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 18/December/2005 at 11:53am
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Bryan the option I refer to is on the fuel tank itself. When you install a slidein into the van all they do is hookup the fuel line. If you don't have that the installation is much more as with the new laws they have to install it after. My distributor called me and made sure since I was getting a new van to order it as it is a big saving with regards to installation. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 19/December/2005 at 9:23pm
| oh i see ya had them install the fuel line but dont think would be that hard. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 19/December/2005 at 9:30pm
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Bryan you just don't get it? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: bbf78
Date Posted: 20/December/2005 at 7:39pm
| Bryan, he's saying that it will be cheaper for you to order the van with the extra port in the tank for your TM to suck gas out of. Rather than have a port installed later when you have your TM mounted. Vehicles don't normally come with an extra port in the gas tank, you have to ask for it extra. |
Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 20/December/2005 at 8:10pm
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Correct !! Car Dealer will charge you 1260.00 thats one told me today GMC . Since you have purchased it already your carpet cleaning dealer will probably charge you 4 to 500 at least thats what mine said. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/December/2005 at 8:34pm
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No way? The option on my 205 Savana is 7T6 Auxliliary Engine Fuel Pickup. The dealer threw it in cost $155.00 Canadian. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 20/December/2005 at 8:47pm
| Thats what a GMC Dealer said today called my cleanco dealer and he said 4 to 500 hundred includes the part and labor. GMC dealer said thats what they charge 1,260. He must have been smoking anyways I took my business elsewhere. He lost a deal of selling me a new GMC 3500 and financing a TM. Who knows waht else he was thinking of ripping me a new hole. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/December/2005 at 10:12pm
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How much were you paying for this truck? That dealer must be everybodies buddy with those prices? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 21/December/2005 at 12:18am
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This guy wanted 26,253.76 for a GMC 3500 with the fuel aux and this is with a 4.8 engine. Went somewhere else and about to happen in the works 25,685 with an 6.0 engine, fuel aux and GMC 3500 extra beefed suspension. This is out the doori nstalled. I am financing a Bluewave for 20,000 with all the extra goodies 7900 down and my payment for both will be $740.00 per month The loan is together using GMC. |
Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 28/December/2005 at 2:38am
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The h*** with buying a new van . Purchased two used vans 2004 2500 extended 4.8 v8 engine with 24k miles smells new. $ 14,500 2003 3500 extended 6.0 v8 engine with 95 k miles nice &nb sp; $ 10,000 I will sell my 91 and 2000 chevy astro van . These new ones are like limos damn they are big. Like driving a bus. Just have to finance a new Bluewave dual wander and transfer my other Cleanco. I have noticed you do not see many Cleanco units out there used for sale. Seriously. I seen Boxers really cheap I asked why (because they have problems ) too many solenids and or ect. heard nothing bad about the Bluewave. |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 28/December/2005 at 11:09am
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has blueline been around long enough to have feedback?
I don't think you'll see too many Cleanco slide ins for sale simply because I don't think too many get sold they're the same as a Prochem and cost the same so I imagine most people think the same as me and figure
"may as well buy the Prochem" ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 28/December/2005 at 12:18pm
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My understanding is the best engineers left Prochem and formed there own comany and came out with the Blueline. Supposedly they made a machine that can work. Yes they are still new have not heard any negative feedback spoke with several dealers and they say that is one helluva machine. http://www.bluelineequip.com/bluewave.htm - http://www.bluelineequip.com/bluewave.htm |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 28/December/2005 at 2:53pm
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I never heard that they were the "best" engineers they had....all I heard was that they left when Castlerock took over I've always assumed it was a money thing I'm not knocking the machines,I don't know enough about them
I'm sure they're a fine knock off
my only concern would be if they'll still be around in the future having heard that their financial support is minimal......but it could be a rumor I dunno ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 26/December/2006 at 12:31am
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Hello to you all !! Two expresses loving it ! Bottom line nxt unit will be a pto .
Had problems with both tms. In the future the plan is to keep it simple and go PTO.
As far as the vans 4.8 big difference in gas. Although the 6.0 is no joke when it comes to power.
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 26/December/2006 at 7:41pm
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PTO TMS give you the least problems most of the time, because nothing is more reliable than a water cooled automotive engine. Only possible exception to that rule is a TM powered by a water cooled auto engine that has 4 cylinders and gets used in a high dollar slide-in machine. Then you may be good for 10,000 or more trouble free miles, which compares favorably with the PTO machines. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |