Improving Portable Performace
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Topic: Improving Portable Performace
Posted By: CleanEvo
Subject: Improving Portable Performace
Date Posted: 13/February/2007 at 2:59pm
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I have a 150psi Ninja portable that I recently purchased. I realize now that I should have gotten the 250 or 500psi model instead. The 150 psi is OK, however a little extra would be nice.
Has anyone ever replaced an existing pump with an upgraded one? Can you run 50' of pressure and vac line instead of the 25'? Thanks for any suggestions |
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Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 14/February/2007 at 5:54pm
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If you purchase this unit from Kleen Kuip we would gladly take it back for an upgrade. Try calling your distributor and ask if they will help your out with your dilemma.
But, also kieep in mind that the 150 psi & 150 lift Ninja you purchased is capable of 50 ft. already.
You can swap out the pump for a larger one but it becomes more expensive. Better to cut a new deal while your unit is still new.
Thanks for joining the KK Forum.
 We look forward to your posts.------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 14/February/2007 at 9:32pm
| do they make a 250 Ninja? |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 15/February/2007 at 3:25pm
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Thanks...I purchased it in Calgary about 6 months ago. The supplier won't take it back and has suggested I try to sell it used and purchase a new one.
They told me that you can't run 50' on this unit...I should try it out and see how it works. I think I'll hang on to it for now and purchase a reciol 3 with a booster in the future so that I can run 150'. I like the versatility of a portable...I do a lot of commercial work. |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 15/February/2007 at 6:20pm
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CleanEvo,
Most of our customers use a 100 psi Ninja with 50 ft. of hoses. you can also purchase a booster vac box for a Ninja that will take you to 265" of water lift. Put all the hose on you want.
Call me if you'd like to discuss it.
Ninja makes a 100, 150, 250, 500 and a 1200 psi machine. The confusion may be that Kleen Kuip sells the 250 and calls it a 200 psi as we believe this pump will last much longer running it at 200.
------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
dennis_is_ok wrote:Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 15/February/2007 at 6:52pm
sell me your ninja for 1/2 what you paid and I'll pay the shipping.
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Posted By: Ninja-wand
Date Posted: 15/February/2007 at 7:16pm
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Boost the perfomance of your Portable by.......GETTIN A DAMN TM!!
------------- I'll make you TAP OUT!!! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 15/February/2007 at 7:17pm
Amen to that  ------------- 
The STD Meter |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 15/February/2007 at 10:10pm
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Thanks Carpetoligist...I'll give you a call.
Interesting to hear from the TM boys. I cleaned carpets for 15 years with a TM. A truck mount and van won't do me much good 28 floors up in a Calgary tower. It's funny, when I ran a truck mount I was happy when I made a $100 an hour on occasion doing residential jobs...now I average $100 an hour doing commercial and no call backs and no "Mrs. Jones" scrutinizing my work...and no truck mount...best of all...no gas. Wait till gas is $1.50 to $2.00 a litre...better sell your truck mounts now while you still can. "Mrs. Jones" certainly isn't going to pay for your gas. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 15/February/2007 at 10:15pm
Whatever works for you  -------------
The STD Meter |
Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 15/February/2007 at 10:54pm
| Looks like you needed to do better work, would avoid those call backs. Bet you miss the ease of a TM, no buckets of dirty water and filling up. Nice to goto a job and run two lines and go for hours. I for sure don't miss the portable days. As far as gas a good TM theses days use very little gas, and with the heat and power of a truck mount you need a lot less chemical which cost way more. So as far as saving money think you are spending more. Would also hate doing a flood with a portable. Just my opinion. |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 15/February/2007 at 11:05pm
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I use very little water...pre-vac, pre-spray, agitate with the buffer, light rinse & extract, bonnet dry...don't have to dump much at all. As far as the ease of a truck mount, that's fine if you're doing 3-4 residential jobs a day, however I prefer the portable for multi floor commercial...I do very little residential...only referals.
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Posted By: Ninja-wand
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 12:45am
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Wow,Got Pretty defensive there..... ------------- I'll make you TAP OUT!!! |
Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 8:51am
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Multi floor commercial you say?
and you use a 5 step process? your distributor ripped you off buddy he should have sold you a Cimex. - - no noise, only 1 chem, no pre spray, no post bonnet, no BS :)
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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 12:54pm
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It's interesting that when you post a question on the portable board the TM boys have absolutely nothing constructive to add...except "get a TM". These are the same guys who get IICRC certified, however fail to recognize that there are 5 approved IICRC carpet cleaning methods...most of them don't even follow the most important step in carpet cleaning which is PRE-VACUUM.
The reason I follow a 5 step procedure is that it works. Since I started my current commercial floor maintenace business I consistently take business away from the cleaners who use 1 or 2 steps in the cleaning process...and yes, even the encap cleaners...WHY??...because I outperform them (with my 150psi Ninja and a floor buffer). I have found a formula that works well for me...I have never made better money...and I charge more than most of my competition...but then...I'm a really good salesman! People love a 5 step process! 
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Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 1:00pm
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never in a million years could you take a customer away from me and my Cimex. you better stay in Calgary there cowboy :)
ps. I have never owned a TM |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 4:29pm
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Don't worry...I plan to stay in Calgary...it's the only place people pay you what you're worth...with a smile on their face.
By the way...I don't try to take business away from anyone...I get the referals, do a presentation and leave it up to the customer...they make the decision. I'm glad you like your cimex...but I have to say that it's not hard for me to convince my customers that my process is superior.
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Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 4:45pm
| lucky for you your customers aint too smart! |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 6:36pm
most guy can't afford a truckmount...let alone the hose...
 they call them portable guys ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 6:40pm
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[QUOTE=CleanEvo] Don't worry...I plan to stay in Calgary...it's the only place people pay you what you're worth...with a smile on their face.
Isn't that where SGG get his buck a square? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 7:04pm
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I thought SGG was the only cleaner in Calgary? -------------
The STD Meter |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 7:06pm
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One minute or less dry times! ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 7:27pm
That's cuz you don't get it wet if you don't clean it  -------------
The STD Meter |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:02am
I have thought long and hard about getting a TM...I worked for 15 years running a truck mount for others and occasionally used a portable when I couldn't reach something or the TM was down. At times the TM was down often and I was always amazed that my cleaning results were as good with the portable as the TM...yes a little extra effort, but good results. Now that I am doing mainly commercial (and want to pursue more commercial) I really don't know if a TM is worth the investment...I know if I buy one it will not be used fully and then I don't want a huge lease payment hanging over my head. I will concede to one thing...If I was doing 75% or more residential...I would definately get a TM...but for multi floor commercial I prefer a portable...I would like to try a more powerful portable some time. 
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 12:24pm
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I hear ya...TM is useless on commercial...I will agree with you that sometimes a 100 psi porty does a way better job....
but I can get almost anywhere with a TM...ALMOST...lol
I got a cimex for commercial and I love it ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 1:56pm
| I'm setting up shop in alberta with my Votex and Cimex and sending a job application to CleanEvo |
Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 19/February/2007 at 2:34am
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I have thought long and hard about getting a TM...I worked for 15 years
running a truck mount for others and occasionally used a portable when
I couldn't reach something or the TM was down. At times the TM was down
often and I was always amazed that my cleaning results were as good
with the portable as the TM...yes a little extra effort, but good
results. ___________________________________________________________ Fist of all a portable won't out clean a TM on carpet, if it would there would be no market for TM's. Thats like saying my Dust Buster will out clean my vacuum. No one cares about the steps for commercial, mainly price. For residential thats a different story, some have 20 steps get real. One being putting plastic under the furniture legs. Most commercial accounts have janitorial services that vacuum every night, so no thats no biggie to pre-vac when it was just done, unless they are paying you well. I'm guessing your getting over .30 ¢ a sf. for all your steps. |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 19/February/2007 at 12:26pm
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With the steps I mentioned above I can get the carpet as clean as a truck mount, just takes longer is all. I've been cleaning carpets for a long time and I know this to be true from experience...the benefit of a TM is speed and convenience....that's all.
A pre-vacuum is always 100% required to effect the best cleaning possible. Some janitorial companies do a poor job of vacuuming (not all). I have found that I remove a lot of dry grit with a pre-vacuum in ALL situations. That's why a pre-vacuum is a required step in carpet cleaning...as a professional you can't count on the customer or someone else doing a proper job. I do offer a premium service and most of my customers are corporations who are interested in quality and providing a healthy work environment for their employees...it's not hard to convince them of the benefits. I wish I could get .30 cents a square foot, if I could I'd be making about $200 an hour...I like to make $100 per hour so if you do the math you can figure out what I charge. My business is built on quality and service, not steps or gimmicks...so far it's working for me. |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 19/February/2007 at 4:48pm
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CleanEvo
what you are doing IS working so keep it up. it pays your bills and feeds your kids. the TM guys wish they were you :) |
Posted By: Ninja-wand
Date Posted: 19/February/2007 at 5:27pm
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"the TM guys wish they were you"
Ummm....I dont think so. ------------- I'll make you TAP OUT!!! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 19/February/2007 at 5:47pm
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I don't think so either -------------
The STD Meter |
Posted By: opclean
Date Posted: 19/February/2007 at 6:26pm
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CleanEvo Sounds like you have a process that works for you and your customers. Keep up the good work and dont look back. I to use to clean with a truckmount. As you age you learn to work smarter not harder. I do most of our carpets with an o.p machine and pre vac is very important. I had a resi customer tell me that she thru a carpet cleaner out of her house because he was not going to pre vac. My com accounts could care less. You all stay safe Thanks ------------- Cleaning carpets is like a box of chocolate.You dont know what ya got till ya bite into it. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 21/February/2007 at 12:00pm
Back to the question at hand ....
#1 = yes
#2 = yes
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