Portable with Quickest Drying time?
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Topic: Portable with Quickest Drying time?
Posted By: sccleaners
Subject: Portable with Quickest Drying time?
Date Posted: 05/May/2007 at 7:33am
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To all the protable users: What portable do you use and on average, how quickly does the carpet take to dry...depending on type of course.
Please give a quick spec list on your protable:
Brand
PSI
Water lift
Heat vs no heat
Weight
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 05/May/2007 at 11:42am
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Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 06/May/2007 at 8:17pm
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except for Ed's
all portables are the same they all use the same vac motors 2 or 3 stage. use a heavy power cord, a really god wand and short vac hose for maximum water recovery. by change my power cord I added 10" of water lift! ------------- 
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Posted By: Thang
Date Posted: 06/May/2007 at 9:54pm
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I see camel toe.
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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 07/May/2007 at 10:44am
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I would suggest that you look for a System that is well designed in terms of providing with optimal AIR-FLOW if drying is a concern.
The very best to all; Ed Valentine cross-american corp. |
Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 12/May/2007 at 1:16am
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I was filling up my Mytee 1001 today with BOILING Hot water in the kitchen and had a few free minutes to look the machine over. This included the instructions which told how to wait 5 minutes for the heater before using to clean the CAR not CARPET. I guess it is the fault of the retailer (Rotovac in this case) who sells under performance , not the manufacturer. My IICRC instructor last year said nothing less than a 350 PSI for CARPET cleaning will do. I agree with him. I wonder if there was a higher spiff for the low performance extractor at that time that motivated the salesperson at Rotovac? Caveat emptor. How can you tell when a salesperson is lying? His lips are moving. ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: scotty
Date Posted: 12/May/2007 at 11:29am
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If what your IICRC instructor stated, was true, do you really think Prochem and many others would have survived all these years.
The initial treatment of the carpet will have a major bearing on the drying time. If you, prevac, prespray, aggitate, then extract, you can get perfectly good and adequate results with as little as 100 psi, assuming, of course, you have twin vacs. The current trend in portables, is for triple, three stage vacs, but with good products and good technique, you can get spectacular results, without all of that muscle. Then again, if it's quick drying you want, maybe you are in the wrong section !!! ps Boiling water could drastically shorten the life of your pump, ------------- we try harder and it shows |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 22/May/2007 at 11:05pm
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Duckcountry
Putting boiling water into your machine is going to cost you a pump kit. The pump manufactures will not warranty or guarantee their pumps over 160 F.
In-line heaters and truck mounts always heat after the pump for longevity of the pumps. I suggest high pressure not that I feel it cleans that much better, but it cleans faster and time is money and additional profit.
Most newbies getting into our industry generally do it on a shoe string budget and thats the reason why more low pressure portables are sold over high pressure. It's all about start up money.
It's been said before (Heat) (Pressure) (Suction) (Chem). If you eliminate one you may have to increase the others. This is why Truck Mounts are in demand. You are generally dialing down and not up as they have all the above in abundance.
Portables are at the mercy of a 15 or 20 amp. electrical circuit that could never offer all that trucks mounts have to offer.
Good Salesman don't lie they just stretch the truth sometimes and especially when their kids are hungry. Now do carpet cleaners lie, not really many just make it up as they go along and believe it themselves. I have found over the years that many carpet cleaners some how get into the wrong information groove and just can't get out. For those I suggest a IICRC manual or take the course.
Quake Quake Ps..... Just a suggestion!
Deal with a quality distributor, they will hold your hand and guide you through the dark tunnel and for free.
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 25/May/2007 at 1:16am
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I did it just the one time and performance wise, not a difference. I use portables over truckmounts for environmental reasons. I am concerned with greenhouse gases, global warming and the carbon footprint of a truckmount regardless of whether it uses gas, natural gas, propane, diesel or bio-diesel. You are correct, if you don't have the heat you make time to do a good job. Customers feel better about what they pay if I take longer than the other guy. ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 25/May/2007 at 1:43am
Performance wise a big difference.. Man, do a greasy Chinese Restaurant and you will see performance difference like you have never seen before.
That's a first "I use portables over truckmounts."
  If your concerned with "greenhouse gases, global warming and the carbon footprint of a truckmount regardless of whether it uses gas, natural gas, propane, diesel or bio-diesel". ARE YOU USING A FUEL ADDITIVE THAT HELPS THE ENVIROMENT?? ONE THAT IS CERTIFED AND TESTED BY SAE?
 Probably not..
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 25/May/2007 at 11:12am
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I did one better than fuel additives (most of which don't perform as advertised). I shortened my acceptable job radius to 4 miles. And I refuse commercial work so a portable fits my business just fine.
------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 25/May/2007 at 12:34pm
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quote "I did one better than fuel additives (most of which don't perform as advertised). "
Why did i have a felling you were going to say that?? procrastination gets no results..
READ MY TYPE -- SAE CERTIFIED AND TESTED.. Now, these guys are alot smarter than us...
MOST CLEANERS (MABE YOUR ONE) DON'T PERFORM AS ADVERTISED..
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 25/May/2007 at 1:01pm
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I alone decide for myself and my business what I do, how I perceive things and how I do things based on my set of values and not yours. I am glad you can do the same for you and your business without expecting everyone to agree with you or be classified by you as substandard. It would be unfortunate if you felt offended by someone who did not think the sun rises and sets over a truck mount. ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 26/May/2007 at 12:08am
Good for you man..  We all make our own decisions..dah!
Your smarter than Automotive Engineers !!! ha!
Dont drive your Vehicle.. Your trying to save the Atmosphere.. Pretty poor exuse to use a plastic rinky dinky porty..
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 26/May/2007 at 12:21am
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Be sure to let us all know when you grow up.
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 26/May/2007 at 1:56pm
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If you look at what you posted you stepped on your own mailto:di@k - di@k .
You havent had enough experience running a TM to compare it to your plastic porty.. One time!! And you want people to beleive what you said.?I've had 4 portys and 2 TM's.. No comparison by a long shot..
You want to save the enviroment? I dont think you do!
A hypothetical car which travels an 18-mile round trip commute,
5 days/week, 48 weeks/year, spews into the air we breathe: 4,500 lbs. of Carbon Dioxide (CO2) ,160 lbs. of Carbon Monoxide (CO) ,16 lbs. of Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) ,16 lbs. of Nitrogen Oxides (NOx), Smaller amounts of benzene, formaldehyde, particulate matter and other toxic materials. ONE CAR traveling ONLY 4,320 miles per YEAR emits that much into our environment and according to EPA estimates Americans alone drive 2 TRILLION miles per year. Whatever you do.. DON'T buy SAE 10W30 or 10W40 for your Vehicles.. "They don't perform as advertised."
Those automotive engineers aren't as smart as us rug cleaners are they duck?
Your not up on technology...
 You stepped on your own ! |
Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 26/May/2007 at 2:20pm
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Back to your sandbox until you grow up, John "L"oser. You may be experienced but from the sound of things you have more experience doing it wrong than any adult here would in a millenium. Oh, by the way, this is a portable method discussion not a polluting TM discussion. Stay where you belong out of the conversations of those who have recent experience and are loyal to the advantages of a portable and read only in areas where you could have been if you had made the right choices. You hate the fact that we use your truck mounts against you when selling to the environmentally conscience with such great success. Problem with technology is people like you can't learn from because you think you know it all. Expert, huh? X = formerly pert = drip I am selective about where I work and how much I get which simply means I don't have to drive all over hell's half acre or do as many jobs as you to turn a profit for the month. Compete with the big groups of unskilled in getting a share of the once-every-five-year cleanings while we target the customer with discriminating tastes who pays more to get more and does it once every 6 months to 2.2 years. Cha-Ching ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: SERVICEMASTER
Date Posted: 26/May/2007 at 5:11pm
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King Cobra 500
Wand with green glide carpets dry in about an hour - this is in Arizona
350 PSI @0.8 gal a minute
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 26/May/2007 at 5:41pm
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Sounds like a nice unit. Have you tried a HydraForce LP sprayer with that yet? ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: SERVICEMASTER
Date Posted: 26/May/2007 at 8:26pm
| Yes I always use the Hydraforce HP. I unload the machine via a ramp, then attach wand and other stuff I use - I only walk once -everything on wheels. 25ft of hose is buildt-in. Used it for 3 years - just minor issues. Best of all steals customers from Stanley steamer, as many people in AZ hate to leave their doors open with 105F outside + geckoes and scorpions trying to get in. |
Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 26/May/2007 at 8:38pm
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I am curious about the ramp. I purchased a ramp kit on EBay 2 years ago. It is 8 foot long when un-folded and uses heavy plywood for the ramp surface. Beats loading and un-loading by hand like I did for a long time. Tell me about yours and where did you get it please?
------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: SERVICEMASTER
Date Posted: 28/May/2007 at 6:46pm
| Bought my ramp from EZRAMP...look them up on google, I ordered online. Roughly 330 USD. Its 6 foot long, made out of aluminum and certified to 600lbs. It has a thick antiskid coating that works really well. I can unfold the ramp and onload the king cobra in about 35 sec. |
Posted By: John Bolton
Date Posted: 02/June/2007 at 8:20am
Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 02/June/2007 at 6:18pm
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I just checked it out online. I like the auxiliary tanks and power booster options. Sweet!
------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: John Bolton
Date Posted: 03/June/2007 at 2:36am
Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 19/June/2007 at 10:42pm
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Guys,
What do you do when you're faced with 2-3 bedrooms upstairs out of the reach for Your hoses? I hate the though of hualing a portable up a set of stairs even when empty. That's what keeps me from really going after the extraction market.
Barry
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Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 19/June/2007 at 10:43pm
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Guys,
Where do You find Recoil protables?
Barry
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/June/2007 at 12:14am
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Here.....
http://www.cross-american.com/ ------------- 
The STD Meter |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 20/June/2007 at 12:52am
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HEAT!!!! Get HEAT!! You can clean faster and better with it. You can compensate for vac by using shorter hose. So what, you have to move the unit around a bit.. No big deal..
I have 3-3stage in my recoil and HEAT and only like to run 50' tops.. But haven't used it for almost 2yrs..
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 20/June/2007 at 1:58am
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It is not as bad as you might be thinking, Laser. Empty is the only way I do it and at 55 I do use a back support and knee supports to enjoy life longer and not be in a world of pain when I get home. If the man of the house is home I am glad to say that he will offer to help with the moving and I am not to proud to accept. |
Posted By: John Bolton
Date Posted: 20/June/2007 at 6:48am
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 20/June/2007 at 8:43am
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Personally, I have enjoyed reading the above comments; however, I must interject some truthful statements in an effort to help blow away some smoke here.
Now, I truly and honestly respect John L and consider him a personal friend of mine because we have shaken hands and have had some wonderful conversations in the past. I understand and am very glad that he is very happy with his Gasoline Truckmount,...as he should be; however, lets make one thing clear here. Is the RECOIL-3HP as powerful as a Vortex machine? NO. Is John L's machine as powerful as a Vortex machine? NO. But, it doesn't have to be as "powerful" to do a terrific job either. I have personally built an International business with machines that have: "4-wheel" (Ooops!) and have operated successfully right from the truck. We get letters all the time that state the facts as this one: ______________________ Posted by Taylor Sullins on 6/8/2007, 3:26 pm, in reply to "Re: First day on the job!" 68.229.204.47 I guess I did not realize those tanks were add ons. He always ran it from the trunk but their great because you can see through them and know how much solution you have. As far as how far it seems like we used 2 50 (100 FEET) foot sections of the 2" hose to the Booster AND THEN RAN 50' additional long 1 and a half inch hose. So a TOTAL OF 150 FEET OF HOSES. Part of the job involved putting down teflon or scotchgard . By the time he was ready to put it down where he first started it was already pretty dry so probably took about 2 hours. He used a lot of Prespray to clean the carpet because it was so dirty. But it came out real good. Taylor ___________________________________________________ Ofcourse, there are hundreds of other more interesting and true situations that others have shared with us as well. So, lets not get into this BS about 'who's is more powerful" because I do know that John's unit ( as good as it is, I'm sure) falls far short of the power of the $100,000 vortex unit. Does this mean his unit can't clean a carpet and do it extremely well? My honest statement: Don't think so, and that same statement would hold true in regards to a RECOIL system as well. PROVEN HISTORY (my own for example) doesn't lie, Gentlemen. And, this also holds very true in regards to Mr. Boltons success and extreme knowledge and experience as well. But, if we can put aside our own efforts to try and win arguments or debates, we all know that as common-sense. Thanks to all; Ed Valentine 35 years in a PROVEN business |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 27/June/2007 at 2:05am
What are you mumbling about ED? 
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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 27/June/2007 at 9:03am
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John L, you have always been a great friend and one who has always made me laugh at times.
So, I appreciated that Thumbs Up signature! BTW, has the snow stop falling in Wisc. yet!!!-LOL Ed V |
Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 03/July/2007 at 10:11pm
| With 50 ft. of hose, it's usually not an issue. I guess it depends on how large the homes are in your area. Empty, you can pull the machine up step by step, then empty it before taking it down. |
Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 04/July/2007 at 1:21am
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I find if I start upstairs, getting the beast up the steps empty first and then when finished empty it and take it downstairs, I have enough energy in reserve to handle the move with far less effort and less of a chance of injury to my back and knees. I do only 1 job each day and don't begin to really cramp up until I get from a standing position to a sitting position in the van. And that is with a back brace . Most of my jobs are really deep cleaning and take several hours. I don't stop to eat or take a break with the exception of a 1 minute bottled water break until the job is done and I have returned home. When I get there I will have plenty of mend in solitude, ready to start all over again the next day. My dad, a carpenter, fell 25' off a collapsing scaffold, landing on solid concrete tailbone first when he was 40. 2 shattered vertebrate were replaced after several months of being in a hospital with a very small chance of living. Wired together he was told to never lift more than 50 lbs again which you do not tell a carpenter. He would do what needed to be done and come home in pain everyday where he would rest and get ready to do it again. He never took a day off, working 7 days a week until he retired at 65. He passed away at 85. He is my model. Every time I think I have something to complain about I remember how he was good about hiding how he felt everyday when he got home for almost 25 years after a fall that should have killed him or at the very least paralyzed him. That portable is small potatoes compared to his issues. Thought I would share with the people I have most in common. |
Posted By: John Bolton
Date Posted: 04/July/2007 at 5:23am