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      Topic: Dry vacuuming before wet cleaning
       
      Posted By: carpetologist
       Subject: Dry vacuuming before wet cleaning
       Date Posted: 23/February/2004 at 6:16pm
       
      
        
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 Dry vacuuming carpet prior to wet cleaning should be like bacon & eggs. Common sense says take the dry soil away before making mud with moisture cleaning. I would like to think I am correct in saying this. But, no more than 2% of our customers own a vacuum cleaner. 
We would like your thoughts and opinions. 
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      Posted By: Steaminpile
       
      Date Posted: 26/February/2004 at 6:29pm
       
      
        
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everyone says they do but I think very few do vacuum before HWE. 
  
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      Posted By: Cd-Ron
       
      Date Posted: 28/February/2004 at 3:05am
       
      
        
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 Probably would be a good idea for us as carpet cleaners to carry vacuums on board our trucks.  
  
Take Care 
-Ron H. 
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      Posted By: doug
       
      Date Posted: 28/February/2004 at 3:55pm
       
      
        
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If you carry  a vacuum you should use a hepa.  We use turbo vacs and run them threw the truck.  You can charge more to vacuum and most people will pay.  If your Vacuum is no better than homeowners you should leave it in the truck.  On the vacuum kick we only vacuum the traffic areas and enterances.  We are not a domestic service.  
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      Posted By: EmpireMike
       
      Date Posted: 04/May/2006 at 4:58pm
       
      
        
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 we always carry a quality vac and use it whenever needed 
what is the sense of wetting crap that the vac pics up 
  
guys that dont are just cutting corners 
  
cut corners and lose repeats 
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      Posted By: Michael
       
      Date Posted: 15/July/2006 at 3:46pm
       
      
        
          
	
I use a Royal vacuum with a hepa filter, and I vacuum on every single job, even if they vacuumed before me. But that's step two; step one is hand-brushing all the edges and corners. Beginning the job with something the customer probably has never seen another cleaner take the time to do is a great way to immediately impress them. 
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      Posted By: MR. STEAMER
       
      Date Posted: 20/July/2006 at 8:35pm
       
      
        
          
	
  Michael wrote:
  I use a Royal vacuum with a hepa filter, and I vacuum on every single job, even if they vacuumed before me. But that's step two; step one is hand-brushing all the edges and corners. Beginning the job with something the customer probably has never seen another cleaner take the time to do is a great way to immediately impress them.
  |    how many jobs do you do a day???? one???? that sure would take a long time
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      Posted By: Michael
       
      Date Posted: 21/July/2006 at 1:59am
       
      
        
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I always work with my business partner. If not for that, it would be more difficult. When we expand into another vehicle, I'll take a part-timer on tighter days. I could always use a good stair bitch. But really, brushing edges and corners doesn't take very long at all (five to ten minutes tops) if you just get right to it and keep up a good pace. I kind of miss using the Hoover Conquest, though, because it's easier to throw it around--the Royal doesn't handle as well.
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      Posted By: doug
       
      Date Posted: 22/July/2006 at 8:42pm
       
      
        
          
	
Steamer what's wrong with doing one job a day??
  ------------- Just My opinion
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      Posted By: thermedix
       
      Date Posted: 22/July/2006 at 11:50pm
       
      
        
          
	
I always get the custy to do it prior to my arrival or charge another 20% to do it, either way it gets done prior to steam cleaning. >>OP, before and after.
  ------------- It`s not how far you fall...it`s how high you bounce back up...
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      Posted By: John L
       
      Date Posted: 02/December/2006 at 5:49pm
       
      
        
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 making mud on dry soils if you don't wacuum..True, but mud only an ant can see and with the power we have with TM's, guess what.. no more mud,  no more grease, no more anything, just very clean carpet..   
My TM is 100 times stronger than a vacuum cleaner....   
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      Posted By: Mr. Slide
       
      Date Posted: 12/January/2007 at 5:26am
       
      
        
          
	
So is mine! 
  
Smoken with 31 h.p.    250 deg.    yea man!    
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 !!!Check this out!!! 
 Put a Slide Not a Glide on your Wand, and do a better job!
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      Posted By: CCandmore
       
      Date Posted: 12/January/2007 at 8:35am
       
      
        
          
	
    I use local college girls for part time helpers. I rake in the prespray and work on stubborn spots while they use the wand.  Since I've been doing this, my business skyrockets in the summertime when they wear shorts and t-shirts.  It's usually the guy who meets me at the door and I never get complaints.
 
 I have a special short-handled rake that I like to call my "stainguard rake".  I spray, they rake.  It's really amazing how much some customers are willing to pay for stainguard.
 
 By the way, I love my job.
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      Posted By: danmarck82
       
      Date Posted: 14/January/2007 at 1:25am
       
      
        
          
	
It is part of my " PREP "  conversation with the customers. 
 Customer vacuums! so far so good 
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      Posted By: STEAMPRO
       
      Date Posted: 11/October/2007 at 5:22pm
       
      
        
          
	
 THATS WHAT IM TALKIN BOUT! 
  ------------- NEW BUSINESS IN TEXAS
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      Posted By: STEAMPRO
       
      Date Posted: 11/October/2007 at 5:22pm
       
      
        
          
	
[QUOTE=CCandmore]    I use local college girls for part time helpers. I rake in the prespray and work on stubborn spots while they use the wand. Since I've been doing this, my business skyrockets in the summertime when they wear shorts and t-shirts. It's usually the guy who meets me at the door and I never get complaints. 
  I have a special short-handled rake that I like to call my "stainguard rake". I spray, they rake. It's really amazing how much some customers are willing to pay for stainguard. 
  By the way, I love my job.[/QUOT E]   
  ------------- NEW BUSINESS IN TEXAS
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      Posted By: Soil Lint Green
       
      Date Posted: 31/December/2007 at 12:03am
       
      
        
          
	
I had a customer tell me yesterday that she used a Dyson before I arrived.  Rather than using it as an excuse to not vacuum I applied my Hoover bagless and went from empty to 3/4 full when done.
  My guess is she had the vacuum on BLOW rather than SUCK or that she simply forgot to plug it in and thought it was the quietest vacuum she ever used.
  Her husband pulled a Eureka out of the closet as they were leaving.  Looked like it had never been used.  And of course I kept mistaking the carpet for a cave floor. 
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      Posted By: Soil Lint Green
       
      Date Posted: 31/December/2007 at 12:08am
       
      
        
          
	
 
    I use local college girls for part time helpers. I rake in the
prespray and work on stubborn spots while they use the wand. Since I've
been doing this, my business skyrockets in the summertime when they
wear shorts and t-shirts. It's usually the guy who meets me at the door
and I never get complaints.
 
 I have a special short-handled rake that I like to call my
"stainguard rake". I spray, they rake. It's really amazing how much
some customers are willing to pay for stainguard.
 
 By the way, I love my job. |  
 
  You might be a pimp of a different make and model, but you understand how to put SEX into carpet cleaning.
  I just take off my shirt and watch all the ladies come out of hiding to take their pictures of the beached albino whale.  I make good money at $5 per pose. 
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      Posted By: DCC
       
      Date Posted: 31/January/2008 at 9:43pm
       
      
        
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I know of very few "big-name" cleaners that vacuum. Mostly because they feel the customer is ignorant of proper cleaning practices. 
 we vacuum and do a lot more. 
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      Posted By: B Rice
       
      Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 10:03pm
       
      
        
          
	
I use a backpack vac...works pretty good if you have paid for our regular cleaning package!
  -------------  http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com 
  http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com 
 
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      Posted By: Soil Lint Green
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 12:29am
       
      
        
          
	
Most customers of mine appreciate the fact that I show up and I am always on time.  They receive a checklist from me at least 2 days early with what they need to do.  Vacuuming is on that list.  
  That is required with the economy package.  Premier is jam packed with extras and they never get a checklist. 
  ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE.  Learn to talk.
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      Posted By: Soil Lint Green
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 12:35am
       
      
        
          
	
There is a reason for taking a vac into a job.
  Make sure it looks mean and says commercial on the vac or bag.
  Now, sell it to them.  Nothing beats your commercial vac.  And make sure it is a make/model they can't buy without you.  In otherwords, not sold in stores, too powerful for the average person to use but nothing cleans like this vac.
  I would get a good commission on one every time I sold a unit a Miller's Carpet Care in the L.A. area.  Learned tons about upselling from them.  We would book cheap, get ourselves in the door and sell sell sell.  
  Just make sure you show them the proper way to vacuum.  Lord knows their mothers didn't do it for them.  
  ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE.  Learn to talk.
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      Posted By: John L
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 12:02pm
       
      
        
          
	
What vac do you recommend we sell..? 
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      Posted By: duckcountry
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 1:37pm
       
      
        
          
	
Personally Sanitaire commercial.  
 
 
 
  
  ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity?
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      Posted By: B Rice
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 6:00pm
       
      
        
          
	
Thats why I use the backpack. Bought it from rotovac can't remember the brand its almost as strong as my porty and all the costys are amazes and say how industrail it looks...works good too!
  -------------  http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com 
  http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com 
 
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      Posted By: John L
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 6:37pm
       
      
        
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What is the profit on the sanitare..?
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      Posted By: duckcountry
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 8:52pm
       
      
        
          
	
Depends on the sales price.   If a retail store gets 40%, what do you think is fair?  
  ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity?
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      Posted By: Soil Lint Green
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 9:11pm
       
      
        
          
	
A rainbow is $800 I think.  And I heard they sell them at that.  Dyson is around $500 or more from what I have seen in the big box stores.  So, I guess we would be looking at $399.  That is what I would sell them for.  Should I say that is what I have sold them for.  And my label goes on each one I sell.  But that is me in my business, each person decides how to conduct their own business.  Most guys are too busy trying to get to the next job to go for the vacuum sale. 
 
  
  ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE.  Learn to talk.
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      Posted By: B Rice
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 9:23pm
       
      
        
          
	
You sale vacs at your carpet cleaning jobs?
  -------------  http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com 
  http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com 
 
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      Posted By: Soil Lint Green
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 9:55pm
       
      
        
          
	
And one of these days, I will sell new carpet again I guess.
  Yes to your question Mr. Rice.  I love to sell.  I guess it is in my blood.
  A salesman never starves, no matter how bad the economy gets.  In fact the worst off the economy is, the more sales jobs there are.
  
  ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE.  Learn to talk.
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      Posted By: B Rice
       
      Date Posted: 27/February/2008 at 10:04pm
       
      
        
          
	
I'm like to work can't sell for sh*t
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      Posted By: DCC
       
      Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 3:32pm
       
      
        
          
	
I agree selling vacuums is a great idea. But it does not fit in with our business model. I really do not see how in this day and age of consumer awareness a person would buy a vac from a crapet cleaning company. Many have made big profits here.
  -------------  http://www.DisciplesCarpetCare.com - http://www.DisciplesCarpetCare.com 
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      Posted By: Soil Lint Green
       
      Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 7:45pm
       
      
        
          
	
Who would know carpet care better than you?  Not the barely legal at Wally World, right?  You have integrity that you have reinforced with what you just did with their carpets that they thought were beyond any help.  Cash in on it.
  ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE.  Learn to talk.
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      Posted By: DCC
       
      Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 10:41pm
       
      
        
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 good point. We have just never given this much consideration. excuse type i have a wiggling 8 month old in my lap 
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      Posted By: Soil Lint Green
       
      Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 11:11pm
       
      
        
          
	
boy or girl?
  ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE.  Learn to talk.
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