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Topic: 5" to the door?
Posted By: Need Angel Inve
Subject: 5" to the door?
Date Posted: 31/July/2007 at 11:54am
I have found that running 2-2 1/2" Vac hoses to the door and then to a splitter that is connected to a 2" that goes to the wand seems to really increse suction. Is this possible or is it my imagination?

Give me some feedback if you've got any!

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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 31/July/2007 at 12:06pm
Depends on the machine you have. If your blower moves more than 300 cfms it may help you, especially if dual wanding. This works best for those that have 5.6 blowers or larger. Those with 4.5 series or smaller would see very little difference. 2" hose is very efficient for handling this volume of airflow to a wand.
    

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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 31/July/2007 at 12:13pm
Originally posted by Need Angel Inve Need Angel Inve wrote:

I have found that running 2-2 1/2" Vac hoses to the door and then to a splitter that is connected to a 2" that goes to the wand seems to really increse suction. Is this possible or is it my imagination?

Give me some feedback if you've got any!


2 inch hose moves 400 cfm easily. Above that the increase in resistance with each additional 50 cfm makes the increase of the hose size worthwhile. You'll bet better cfm if you use 2 1/2 all the way, but of course a smaller hose is manageable.  That is, if your machine moves more than 400 cfm.

By using a larger hose for part of the length of hose, you're decreasing the overall resistance on the system and increasing performance.


Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 31/July/2007 at 12:17pm
And of course, you wont move more than 400 cfm, cause even with a teflon glide on it, a wand will not flow more than 200 cfm will working, so even if dual wanding, 400 cfm from a blower will supply both wands fairly easily.

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Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 31/July/2007 at 7:48pm
I have a buddy who is using a Y splitter with duo 2.5 inch hoses plus a 2" glided wand and swears by it.
He claims 1-2 hour dry times on trashed CGD.
Its not your imagination, it rocks.


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/July/2007 at 8:03pm
So I guess you need one big reel. Running 2 lenghts of 2.5" 100 ft. to get into the house. Then 2" the rest of the way? Setup time 2 hours cleaning time 1/2 hour?

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Posted By: Need Angel Inve
Date Posted: 31/July/2007 at 8:27pm
yeah but the customers love it!! It sets us appart from you guys with a portable. Maybe you should try that on your portable. You might be on to something!

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Thank you for your interest. Hope to speak with you sonn,
Bryn Patton
702-917-5402


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/July/2007 at 9:07pm
Bulls**t the customers love it? It sets you appart?? First of all the customer has not one idea weather it takes one or six hoses to do the job? But I am sure they would prefer just one. Portable?? You know with all you bulls**t you could fit right in on the RED board but I see they already seen threw your investment scam.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/July/2007 at 10:33pm
at least he didn't ask for a CC# like the HO MO Kenny

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 31/July/2007 at 11:30pm
Maybe Kenny will give him his cc#

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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 01/August/2007 at 1:43am
Nah..........I am giving him Steamers instead. More fun that way, eh?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/August/2007 at 7:54am
SGG has everyone's card #

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2007 at 9:06am
The Ho Mo makes his own credit cards...we have all heard of BMO bank...now we got h*m* bank...everything in and out the back door..a bank you CAN trust
    

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/August/2007 at 1:48pm
trust where have I heard that before?

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 01/August/2007 at 1:59pm
It is the word Steamer uses alot with his customers. Whenever tells you that you can trust them, run far away the other direction.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2007 at 11:03pm
HO MO MASTERBATER CARDS...LOL

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 01/August/2007 at 11:30pm
It's masterbeaster

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 02/August/2007 at 5:04pm
The only difference is Steamer's has a hand pump and SGG's is electric
    

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 02/August/2007 at 10:22pm
It takes 3 cords

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/August/2007 at 4:58pm
I didn't know Filter Queens had such a draw??

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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 03/August/2007 at 5:13pm
You do now.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/August/2007 at 1:21am
Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

I didn't know Filter Queens had such a draw??



    Only when they're modded by the king of the porty

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/August/2007 at 9:33am
A milti port Filter queen so one size does not fit all

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/August/2007 at 6:09pm
Pick a port.....stick it in

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/August/2007 at 7:52pm
then turn it on?

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/August/2007 at 10:04pm
If you dare

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 05/August/2007 at 10:24am
It's SGG approved

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/August/2007 at 12:53pm
I feel much better now

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 05/August/2007 at 1:30pm
that's confidence

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/August/2007 at 10:45pm
You first

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/August/2007 at 3:23pm
don't get me involved

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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 06/August/2007 at 3:24pm
You are involved already?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/August/2007 at 7:55pm
story of my life

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 06/August/2007 at 10:18pm
You're in up to your...........

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 06/August/2007 at 10:50pm
Ken just loves being an a**hole.....

he so smart ......why hasn't he figured out that the mission has been accomplished...

his ads have been buried under 100's of bullsh*t posts...LOLOLOLOL



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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 12:54am
He'll just start another thread. New price on imaginary equipment

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 7:54am
the lowest price in the land

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 12:42pm
Back to the post.. OK, Ken or Jake.. I'm thinking run 2-2.5 from the wastetank to a 2.5 Y then 50' of 2.5 to 2" and a whip.. With 26hp and a 45 roots.. YES or NO on more performance.. I think YES...
 
Say you only have a 75' run so you run the 50' 2.5" then 25' 1.5" whip.. YES or NO on performance...
 
And.. Who sells the 2.5" Y ?  You could use muffler pipe and have someone make one.. Like the service garage across the street from me..
 
 


Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 1:14pm
No

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 2:12pm
thats to the point

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 2:18pm
Are you SURE Ken? Joe Bristol and a few others say different.. Also cmaster mentioned it would be easier on the engine and blower.. Unleashing the true power ....
 
I used the lip yesterday and about 2" in from each side of the wand the lips were getting sucked in the slot.. Basically around the center of the slot.. Are these thinner?


Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 3:02pm
I'm Sure. The ones promoting them have money to make, and so brainwash the suckers that want to "buy in" to the idea that adding a bunch of hose is going to do it for them. The only thing the bigger hose is good for is the mega blowers of #56 and larger and those few guys running 200 ft or more of hose. Then they help.


On the glides, add a little bit of marine goop and no problem.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 3:06pm
Originally posted by John L John L wrote:

Back to the post.. OK, Ken or Jake.. I'm thinking run 2-2.5 from the wastetank to a 2.5 Y then 50' of 2.5 to 2" and a whip.. With 26hp and a 45 roots.. YES or NO on more performance.. I think YES...
 

Say you only have a 75' run so you run the 50' 2.5" then 25' 1.5" whip.. YES or NO on performance...

 

And.. Who sells the 2.5" Y ?  You could use muffler pipe and have someone make one.. Like the service garage across the street from me..

 

 

    
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 3:18pm
What is REALLY the deal here guys.. First I dont want to waste money.. Second I have plenty of power but more is better so WHATS GOING ON..
 
cmaster Bristol dont have the 2.5 Y.. if i do this I would like 2.5 from tank then out 50...
 
I guess the only way to find out is do it..
 
 


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 3:27pm
I just got one from him a couple of weeks ago. If not, you can get a custom manifold from Greenie. If you want to do 2.5 from the tank, you can change your inlet

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 3:35pm
What size blower you have? I have 45 and Ken said its a waste of money unless you have a 56
 
Have you noticed faster drying with the set up?
 
 
 


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 3:46pm
Johm I am in the same boat with regards to this setup?

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 4:30pm
I have a 47 in one unit with a kunkle and a 45 in the other without a kunkle. The difference isn't as noticeable with the 45, but once I put a kunkle on it, I'm sure it will be even better

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 07/August/2007 at 5:33pm
keep us posted then

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 08/August/2007 at 12:44am
Do you guys have kunkles on yours?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 08/August/2007 at 3:25pm
no just on my fingers

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 08/August/2007 at 8:50pm
No ..


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 08/August/2007 at 9:33pm
WTF are you waiting for? Get em off your fingers and onto your waste tanks

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 08/August/2007 at 9:39pm
that's where the problem lies

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