Chemicals
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Topic: Chemicals
Posted By: Laserman
Subject: Chemicals
Date Posted: 15/December/2007 at 11:29am
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Guys,
What Pre spray/ Detergents combinations are You using? I'm soon buying A Cross American Portable and getting more into Extraction cleaning in my commercial accounts and I need to decide what chemicals I'm going to be using. I'm currently using Chemiester's Master Extractor in my porable and pre spraying with Chemspec One Clean TLC but I'm considering others. Would an Acid rinse work well with the 500 PSI Cross American Unit and a Rotary Drimaster tool? Barry |
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 15/December/2007 at 2:11pm
Acid rinses are way overrated for every day cleaning. Use a good emulsifier  ------------- 
The STD Meter |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 15/December/2007 at 2:41pm
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Chemspec one clean is garbage, Prekleen is way better and safe on 5th generation, liquid 90 is a good emulsifier also. Prochem also makes good products ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 15/December/2007 at 3:47pm
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Laserman The best advice I have always given, is purchase your chemical products from the same source as your purchase of equipment. Down the road if you should have an issue over repairs and warranty, no one can blame it on the chemicals you are using since they recommended it for you to use. My favorite these days is ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 15/December/2007 at 6:20pm
Good choice of machines. That tank size and the extra power will pay off.
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Laserman wrote:Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 15/December/2007 at 10:11pm
Liquid Formula 90 is one of the detergents I was considering. Kind of Expensive but it is highly concentrated and would save $ in shipping in the end. Almost all of my work with the Portable will be unoccupied condo units on the beach so a Higher PH is OK but I will run into Wool Oriental Rugs from time to time. Wouldn't the 10 PH of Formula 90 be pushing it on Wool Rugs? Barry |
Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 15/December/2007 at 10:33pm
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I've been doing a sort of Chem-Dry imatation low moisture Bonnet cleaning process since 1999. I've been using my Galaxy Portable this fall for my condo accounts doing the deep cleans before snow birds fill up the condos for the winter since drying time is not an issue. I figured this would rinse the residues better. This style of carpet cleaning in the beach condos has been widely popular for quite a while but has slowly been giving way to Hot water extraction in the last year. This is why I'm now moving in that direction. One thing I've never understood is why using a Pre-spray and rinsing with a detergent doesn't leave a dirt atttracting residue? Can somebody explain why this is so? Seems to me that soap on top of soap would leave a soapy residue. What about soap free rinse cleaners such as Procyon, Chemspec DFC, Bridgepoint Prolon ect ect? I tried rinsing with the DFC and it didn't do too well. Could it be because my Galaxy Portable is only a 200 PSI unit?
Barry |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 15/December/2007 at 11:29pm
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Wool oriental rugs is a completly different topic ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 12:47am
You may leave a residue, but if it's not sticky, it won't attract soil and will be vacuumed away by the occupant. Assuming that they vacuum occasionally -------------
The STD Meter |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 1:39pm
Your prespray is your most important chem.. emulsifiers which give a extra kick in the cleaning are so diluted in your 5 gal chem jug they leave microscopic residue which will dry to a flake and then vaced off by the customer..  So your not leaving soap on soap.. Well maybe some are but not me..Your flushing/rinsing the soap out..
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Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 5:15pm
I'm currently prespraying with HD DFC and rinsing with DFC 101. Works great for me, so I'm not sure what problem you're having. How's your heat? Procyon is also an excellent cleaner. What type of carpet is in most of these condos? If you're encountering a lot of olefin, then maybe you should stock something made for olefin. |
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 1:39pm
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ATTACK it!
Happy Holidays; ED Valentine cross-american corp. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 8:03pm
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Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 7:08pm
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Guys,
I ordered my Cross American Recoil XPS today. I'm still not sure which Way I will end up going on Chems. I know I don't like solvent smelling Presprays. I'm leaning towards Procyon in the extractor. It cleans well enough leaves the carpet pretty soft, almost like an acid rinse does. The prespray is still up in the air. It seems that this is the most important chem. I guess I will order a few and try them out. Any suggestions on good presprays? Barry |
Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 20/December/2007 at 12:40pm
| Rinse with Procyon? No, prespray with Procyon. |
Posted By: danmarck82
Date Posted: 20/December/2007 at 11:41pm
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Michael, 100% right on . and I use a fresh water rinse.
if the going gets tough on trashed carpet I mix equal parts of procyon with an Oxy booster. Dwell time of 10-15 minutes is a must and the results have been great for 25 plus years. Procyon is SOAP FREE and does a great job! |
Posted By: danmarck82
Date Posted: 20/December/2007 at 11:42pm
| AS a prespray ! |
Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 21/December/2007 at 12:44am
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Michael,
I've done Bonnett cleaning with procyon and it always left the carpet fairly residue free and soft . So I figured rinsing with Procyon would be a good idea. Why would that be wrong? Barry |
Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 21/December/2007 at 7:27pm
| I'm sure it does a decent job, but 1) you're leaving more solution in the carpet when rinsing that bonneting; 2) prespraying means dwell time, allowing the chemical to do labor-free work 3) you'll use less cleaning solution doing a good prespray and rinsing with water, and it will do just as well. That's just my $.02, it always comes down to what works for you. Speaking for myself, as much as I like Procyon, I think Chemspec's DFC line is just as good, and it's tough to beat 17.00 per gallon for HD DFC and under 10.00 per gallon for 105. |
Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 22/December/2007 at 2:01pm
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Michael,
I'm using a Rotary Drimaster tool so I'm not leaving that much solution in the carpet. Carpet dries in one hour after I finish. I like the chemspec DFC too but often when I order some from Jon Don the idiots send me Chemspec Dry Fabric Cleaner even when I specify that I want DFC 105. Happened just the other day. Barry |
Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 22/December/2007 at 10:40pm
| Sounds like you have a your system, Barry. All power to you until you find something you like better. I was interested in the Drimaster, but my business partner wanted the RX-20 because we already had lots of experience with it. I caved. I still wonder if we would have been better off. |