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Topic: Business Plan
Posted By: Zz_005_zZ
Subject: Business Plan
Date Posted: 01/January/2008 at 11:59am

As some may know, I am in the midst of starting my own carpet cleaning company in Florida...

I am working with a guy from the Small Business Administration, and he requires a business plan.

Now for most companies this would be easy... however this is a type of call on call basis... as well as a commission basis...So I could really use some help here..... As many of you already have established carpet cleaning companies, I imagine someone out there on this forum has a business plan around collecting dust.

So please help me out here and send it my way...... My thanks will be of the upmost gratification.



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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 01/January/2008 at 2:16pm
If you fail to plan.. Plan to fail..LOL


Posted By: Zz_005_zZ
Date Posted: 01/January/2008 at 2:30pm
this is true nonetheless, however I was hoping for some help here...maybe someone elses plan, that I could modify to my own..... just making it a little easier to undertake this huge cunfusion on how to make a business plan for this type of business


Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 01/January/2008 at 2:31pm
Doesn't your SBA guy have a list of resources to help you write a plan? If you retain a good business accountant for tax planning, s/he'll likely be able to advise you very well.


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 01/January/2008 at 3:02pm
Plan to do alot of Marketing.. Plan to treat your Customers as #1.. Plan out your choice of equiptment.. Plan to have alot of money to start.. Plan on some classes.. LOL
 
You must have goals also.. Like making $10k monthly..etc..etc..
 


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/January/2008 at 8:56pm
Listen man you have to do a little research... Criteria change everyday. Getting someone elses business plan isn't a great idea.

It sounds like you looking at getting some grant/loan money to start.

The best thing is to go in and talk to your bank/loan officer to find out what they are looking for in a business plan.

If you are not up and running all you really can do is make projections...show how you are going to allocate your funds.

most banks are looking for a five year projection..

basically you have to break everything down for them.

I would send you a copy of mine....but I never did one for this business I used my own capital to start.

It looks best if you get it done by a Chartered Accountant. For god sakes don't do it yourself. If your using an accountant make sure he stamps it, so the bank will take you seriously.

He will know how to break it all down for you and make it look professional.

Thats the only advise I can give you

good luck
    

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Posted By: Zz_005_zZ
Date Posted: 01/January/2008 at 9:46pm
Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

Listen man you have to do a little research... Criteria change everyday. Getting someone elses business plan isn't a great idea.

It sounds like you looking at getting some grant/loan money to start.

The best thing is to go in and talk to your bank/loan officer to find out what they are looking for in a business plan.

If you are not up and running all you really can do is make projections...show how you are going to allocate your funds.

most banks are looking for a five year projection..

basically you have to break everything down for them.

I would send you a copy of mine....but I never did one for this business I used my own capital to start.

It looks best if you get it done by a Chartered Accountant. For god sakes don't do it yourself. If your using an accountant make sure he stamps it, so the bank will take you seriously.

He will know how to break it all down for you and make it look professional.

Thats the only advise I can give you

good luck
    
 
thanks... the guy from the SBA I think wants to see if I take this seriously. So he wants to see what effort I will put into this myself. Then give me direction on where I need serious fixing... I wasn't looking to use someone elses business plan, but use it as a general idea, and create one from there. I know what business is like here, and times are great for a small business owner like myself (soon to be). I know what advertising I will do.  And my research is daily. I know for a fact that I will be using nothing but a pro-chem. And a used van to start with. My loan will be for $40,000.00 which is enough to get the van, truckmount (both used), chemicals, pc, programs for pc, 0lettering, taxes, licenses, city and county approval, credit card machine, and all paperwork, as well as everything I need.... to put it simply, here is a list of things already typed out, and ready to go.... And I am aware of the everybody gets some forgotten things..... there are no iicrc classes on the list which I will take the carpet cleaning, upholstery, and tile classes. just to start with.... later I will dwelll on the flood certification. at which time I will purchase all of the air movers, and zip walls, and dehu's I will ever need. so here is the short list.
 

Carpet Cleaning Van - $9,000.00

Pro-Chem carpet cleaning machine - $14,000.00

Installation of machine - $500.00

Chemicals - $1,000.00

Carpet Wand - $450.00

Tile Wand - $600.00

Furniture Wand - $249.00

Hose Reel - $352.00

Solution Reel - $277.00

Solution Line - $240.00

Vacuum Hose - $320.00

Lead Line - $28.00

Hose Connectors - $32.00

Couplers (steamline) - $78.00

Lettering for Van - $400.00

Fax Machine - $100.00

Phone - $40.00

Computer - $400.00

Program for company - $100.00

Paperwork - $800.00

Advertisement - $1400.00

License - $500.00

Incorporation - $2,000.00

Filing Cabinets - $200.00

B&G's X 3 - $800.00

Tax - $1,700.00

(TOTAL = $36,106.00)

this is just a start, as I can't post in the YP until oct. which here is a well worth plan, unlike where Mr. Steamer is located. A 1/4 page ad will almost overwhelm me with business....... but for now, hitting the pavement, going demo's in malls, and setting commercial backups will be the priority.
While I only have 1.5 years experience behind the CC industry, I know what it undertakes to start a business, as I started a pest control company with my father. worked with it for 4.5 years, and went onto doing this for Stanley Steemer. The PC company still remains, and is doing well......Now I know that Stanley Reemer is a horrible name around here, and I assure u the only things I learned from this company were how to push a wand, and sell things to people, and what SG, and enzymes do.
 
Everything else I have learned from an (unknown) person who has been in this business for 30 years.However I must admit that I have learned quite a few things from this board.Also for all of you that do large commercial jobs.... I wanted your opinion on this device.... looks interesting, and I think it could be useful.http://www.zipper-it.com/


Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 02/January/2008 at 12:53am
A business plan that does not include a study which supports why YOUR community needs ANOTHER carpet cleaner really is first class garbage.  Your business plan starts with a demographic breakdown.  Is it your idea that you can get through this by copying off someone else's assignment?




Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 02/January/2008 at 2:18am
If you live in a largish city, there's always room for another carpet cleaner. It's just a question of making the phone ring, which brings up marketing. Allocate more money for marketing and devote time to a real marketing plan. Carpet cleaning work is easy and putting together a system is fun, but making the phone ring is the most challenging and important job you have.


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 02/January/2008 at 8:10am
And if you bomb out you have to sell $36,106.00 of equiptment.. OMG!!LOL


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 02/January/2008 at 10:20pm
More like ouch

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 8:39am
when's the auction

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 12:19pm
I'll take the whole lot for $1000...

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 12:26pm
Doug will out-bid you for sure. His $50/room beats $5/room or less everytime.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 12:57pm
Ken you said it yourself...I live in a 1.1 million dollar home....I can afford to subsidize my customers..LOL

I listen when you said buy oil and gold...did you?



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 1:11pm
Mr. Steamer aka Gold finger or is that go figure

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Posted By: .Ken Harris
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 1:14pm
Steamer you wouldn't know your head from your ass.

I finally will reveal how you got your house. and I will do it in two words.

GROW OP



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 4:18pm
Wow Steamer sounds like you are confused??

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 4:22pm
Nothing new there Doug.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 4:48pm
You've started your crap again Kenny!

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 5:46pm
What a great way to start the NewYear....Argue  Head Crack


Posted By: .Ken Harris
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 5:49pm
I'm turning over a new leaf. I'm sorry guys but chuck has to be taught a lesson
    


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 6:02pm
Hopefully someone will rake the leaves and burn them
Ken if you are going to start with this f**kin bull*hit then move it to the god dam glide section where it belongs.

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Posted By: .Ken Harris
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 6:05pm
doug it took me a while but didn't I set things right with you?? I'm not a walmart exchanges don't happen in seconds.

Try getting a refund from Bell Canada and you'll see that I was quick.


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by .Ken Harris .Ken Harris wrote:

I'm turning over a new leaf. I'm sorry guys but chuck has to be taught a lession


Learn to spell moron


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Posted By: .Ken Harris
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 6:06pm
cmon lesson is a type O the I and O are together, but stupid people like you need everything spelt out for them


Posted By: Zz_005_zZ
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 6:10pm
hmm, well someone has been kind enough to give me a little something I was looking for. Fact of the matter is that I know how to start a business, and will start this business. I know the market, and have a great start... never before have I (bombed) out in anything I have ever done, nor will it happen now... I have too much ambition, and way too much knowledge. However I do appreciate the criticism. Nice for a little laugh.
Once again I appreciate the help, but none of you are my competition, and therefor I will subside from my own criticism. Have a good day though.
on a side note... (learn how to spell... hahaha)... couldn't resist


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 6:36pm
No, INTELLIGENT individuals like myself judge sharecroppers like yourself by how eloquently they articulate their thoughts. 

Consider this the edification you need and encouragement to go back to school and take advantage of an institution of higher or lower learning. 

Be sure to study your LESSON this time. 




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Posted By: .Ken Harris
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 6:42pm
A 56 year old, with woman figers that never makes a typeo. LOL

If you want to play up the fact that I made a type O.

I dare you to put out your real name with that threat you made. I would love to take it to the police smart guy.


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by .Ken Harris .Ken Harris wrote:

A 56 year old, with woman figers that never makes a typeo. LOL

If you want to play up the fact that I made a type O.

I dare you to put out your real name with that threat you made. I would love to take it to the police smart guy.


My real name is Bond, James Bond

PU$$Y !!!


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Posted By: .Ken Harris
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 7:07pm
Chicken. Plain and Simple. put your name where you threat is. I think you are the pu$$y around here and look your bleeding. Get a pad and wipe your nasty ass.


Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 7:13pm
How old is Ken? Embarrassed


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 7:21pm
Good idea, Zz 005 zZ.  I think going with your gut feeling and counting on yourself shows you got the stuff unlike lots of guys going into a business of their own. 


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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 10:33pm
Originally posted by Soil Lint Green Soil Lint Green wrote:

How old is Ken? 



It's .Ken to you
     

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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 10:42pm
I am sorry for that. I missed the '.'

Thank you for catching my mistake, cmaster.


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 11:00pm


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Posted By: GREEN_CLEAN
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 11:05pm
hey Ken the .ken guy is making a lot of trouble for you, or is it you?


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 11:09pm
hey man Ken is Ken. I find myself not liking people named Ken in real life...... anyone else??

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Posted By: Dennis Conner
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 11:14pm
Ken Snow is a hell of a great guy...


Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 11:16pm
Good luck to you, Zz. Nice to know you got something out of this thread even though it was hijacked.


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 11:26pm
should get nothing from any thread. you got to pay to learn. Too many of you use the forums for a free ride!



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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 11:32pm
But it was the best E ticket ride I was ever given a chance to ride.  Can we go again?  Please????




Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 8:41am
comon and take a free ride???

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Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 4:21pm
You think reading through the crap in this forum is a free ride?


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 4:22pm
most learn everything from forums like this crap included.

I bet you did Michael

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 4:37pm
That's why he hangs around

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 4:38pm
and complains. he sounds a bit bitchy

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by GREEN_CLEAN GREEN_CLEAN wrote:

hey Ken the .ken guy is making a lot of trouble for you, or is it you?



You bet. But what is a guy to do about it?
    

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:14pm
ken we alol know it's you. At least he sounds just like you. He stepped on all the right toe.

looks like you smells like you it must be you.

you just loooooooooooooooove attention

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:18pm
Wrong again, Steamer.

A guy could make a good living just doing the opposite of whatever you say and do.



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:20pm
live a long life Ken....

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:32pm
are you trying to tell him to go forth and multiply

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:35pm
yes and to become rich filthy rich!

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:36pm
he is already there???

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:44pm
he says he his....and I say he his... he must be.

btw I saw the pictures of his house, and wow

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:45pm
for your eys only??

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:46pm
ask him he might send it to you too.

he has a lot of wide open spaces

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:46pm
Yep

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:48pm
sounds like
Home home on the range

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:50pm
something like that.... he can park alot of cars their

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:51pm
did they move the dumpster to a bigger parking lot

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:52pm
cmon doug we are all adults here. no need to name call

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:53pm
am I missing something here???

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:53pm
Always?

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:54pm
brotherly love?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:54pm
must be between you two

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 7:55pm
but kens a girl... so what do you call it then?

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Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

most learn everything from forums like this crap included.

I bet you did Michael

I take and give information freely. I learned about DFC from this forum, also some stuff about CFM's, waterlift, etc. It's useful to get unbiased reviews of equipment and chemicals here, since sources like Cleanfax are useless for such purposes.  But mostly, I've learned from doing. Do you actually have a problem with this? Or are you just bored?


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 8:05pm
He is always bored.

That is why I head up the entertainment commitee.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 8:06pm
there is no work...I'm just updating my customer list. of course I'm bored

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 8:39pm
I sure could use help with the WDR cat-3 pics posted..Dead


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/January/2008 at 9:44pm
where are they posted? sure I'll help

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/January/2008 at 1:48am
What kind of help do you need?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 05/January/2008 at 12:31pm
someone else to clean it up

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/January/2008 at 9:30pm
No problem, but the travel charge might be excessive

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 2:24pm

Right guys someone else.. posted in the WDR section..



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 2:51pm
the place should have been closed down till work completed properly

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 3:12pm
they should of burnt the place down

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 3:39pm
from water damage to smoke damage back to water damage

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 4:59pm
LOL


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 5:00pm
recycled food recycled place

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 5:47pm
Probably what it is

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 5:52pm
never did any flood damage that looked like that... lucky me

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 6:07pm
Done a few of those. Pretty gross

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 6:13pm
i have done more than my share.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 6:59pm
If the money is good, why not?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 8:14pm
money was good but i still called it quits

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 06/January/2008 at 9:36pm
I don't like the smell of poo

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 07/January/2008 at 12:41am
Respirator, nose plug, Vicks.....no excuses

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 08/January/2008 at 9:43am
Originally posted by cmaster cmaster wrote:

Respirator, nose plug,straw, Vicks.....no excuses

    

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 08/January/2008 at 11:58am
vicks takes away the smell of poo?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 08/January/2008 at 11:59am
apply it spareingly to all affected surfaces????
    

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 08/January/2008 at 12:15pm
really?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 08/January/2008 at 1:06pm
really!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 12/January/2008 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

vicks takes away the smell of poo?
 
A lot of cops and funeral people us it for decomps. Put it right under your noseShocked


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