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Topic: Pirhana Marketing ( Joe Polish )
Posted By: bensurdi
Subject: Pirhana Marketing ( Joe Polish )
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 3:03am
I am wondering if anyone has gone through this Pirhana marketing program and what their results were. In addition I would like to know anyones experience with Joe Polish and his marketing material. Does anyone have any of the marketing material that they can share ( as long as it's not anyone that would be in competition with that person) 

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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 4:50am
Test the water by buying his CDs online at EBay or somewhere like that.  Do your own review based on all you hear on those discs.  Then ask yourself if you think it would be worth pursuing his message any further.  That would be my suggestion.

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Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 8:41am
I don't speak Polish


Posted By: bensurdi
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 11:15am
I'm glad that theres about 400 comedians on this site and not professionals that can give constructive responses. I don't know what  I would do if people were serious!Thumbs%20Up

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 12:00pm
some cleaners swear by his system and others swear at it. Like any marketing plan you need to be very consistant and follow all the steps. This takes time and does not happen over night. As I say it does not work for everyone. me included.

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 1:21pm

Get a grip man.. Ahhhh!!



Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 4:05pm
Anyone that offers to teach others how to make alot of money in any given trade...............is full of crap and not to be trusted
 
Anyone who offers up their hard earned money to purchase the secrets of how to make alot of money from someone.................is full of crap and not to be trusted.
 
                                                 Nightrider 
 


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 4:26pm
Trust no oneEvil%20Grin

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Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 5:24pm
nightrider is a rockin bro.


Posted By: bensurdi
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 5:31pm
Thats a pretty outragous comment nightrider... Are you saying that if you were succesfull and wanted to teach others that you would be full of crap? The guy obviously knows something if he's commanding and captivating audiences across the country. This kind of commentary isn't what I was looking for. Not constructive and leaves a stench of poor character behind. 

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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 7:45pm
Bensurdi...........let's be honest and logical with each other............let us examine some of the most  successful people.......BILL GATES ( NO BOOK ON HOW TO GET RICH ) WARREN BUFFETT ( DOES NOT SELL IDEAS HOW TO GET RICH FOR PROFIT ) SHELDON ADELSON ( DOES NOT PUSH GET RICH CRAP ) ALL OF THE WALTON FAMILY MEMBERS ( OWNERS OF WALMART ) DOES NOT TALK CRAP ABOUT GETTING RICH..................And to answer your question if I was very successful............why would I want to tell and teach you for, unless of course that was the way I made my money............fishing for suckers like you Bensurdi.
 
Go on the net and you'll find thousands of lottery win technics out there..............let me ask you a question Bensurdi...............IF YOU HAD A WINNING LOTTERY SYSTEM...................WOULD YOU SELL AND SHARE IT WITH OTHERS.
 
Joe Polish does not attract a captivating audience accross the country..............what he does captivate is low self esteem, uneducated people with no business sence thinking that inverting and transforming titles will make all their dreams come true . A garbage -man is a garbage -man ( NOT A SANITARY ENGINEER............... A carpet cleaner is a carpet cleaner ( NOT AN  INDOOR AIR POLUTION TECHNICIAN )
 
Joe calls his school a PIRHANA SYSTEM for a reason................he's the Pirhana.............you're the piece of meat..................he'll pick your bones dry.
 
THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL BENSURDI...................LIKE IT OR NOT...........THOSE ARE MY IDEAS...............EDUCATE YOURSELF THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR AND SEE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU...........OR..................GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND TAKE A MARKETING  COURSE.
 
                                             Nightrider


Posted By: bensurdi
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 8:35pm
Point taken. I respect your views. But you also have Donald Trump, Robert kiyosaki, Sue Oremen, these are respected professionals in their industries and by trial and error have built empires worthy of sharing with the world. It takes years of mistakes and years of success before you can be in a position to make informative material that is proven to work and has been tested. I do agree that there is probably a lot of "jokes" out there for carpet cleaners that shouldn't be a business owner that cling to these types of programs hoping and preying that it brings them success. The alternative is right minded individuals who have ambititon and drive who can take these strategies and push through barriers by expanding their perception of marketing strategies. 

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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 11:07pm
Point well taken with Donald Trump..........except for " The Donald " his whole life is a marketing ploy, even his marriages are all marketing . What Trump did, YOU AND I CAN NOT DO......... times have changed, and banks do not lend on merchandise orders or good intent.......years ago I was able to get a fast loan of 50,000 through a phone call to my bank manager................today...........if the computer says " NO " then it's  " NO "
 
Whoever would buy Trumps books is a fool.................books are a lottery ticket for businesmen..........suckers buy them thinking they hold insider secrets............all they get is fluff and alot of little words that say nothing..........most just boast about themselves .
 
Bensurdi............if you want a marketing idea, P.M me and I'll share one with you for FREE.
 
                                              Nightrider


Posted By: Mick Oz
Date Posted: 12/July/2008 at 11:56pm
Well said nightrider.
If it sounds too good to be true it is.
If you want to accumulate wealth..............STOP SPENDING your money.
If you want to invest in your future..............START saving.
Apart from wining the lottery the only way to make money is to WORK hard or inherit it or scam someone out of theirs. And the how to's and the tips to my success's are top of the list of scammers in my opinion.

Mick

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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 13/July/2008 at 7:56pm
Mike Oz..........you're on the money.................let's break up our lives to reality, and a common scence method of accumulating wealth starting at a young age of 18 with no education, little promise, and a $ 10.00/ hour job..........assuming a 40 hour work week with a company that won't close it's doors if it rains too hard .
 
$ 400.00/ week pay ( 22% overall tax bracket, which will be returned at years end due to a poverty level income ) Here is how to extend your dollar. Do this over a 5 year period.
 
Live close to work where you can walk or bike.
Pay yourself first before any bills
DO NOT get MasterCard or Visa
Find yourself a room within a home for a modest weekly or monthly rent (approx. equal to 60 % or 70% of 1 weeks take home pay to cover the month.
Limit your outings to a reasonable activity ( remember 5 years go by fast.
 
You should be able o save an easy $ 10,000/year
5 years = $ 50,000
 
Not bad for a high school dropout without promise. How many 23 year olds with an education and good paying job have $ 50,000.
 
Getting rich is not about how much money you make...................it's all about how much money you save.
 
                                                 Nightrider
 
 


Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 13/July/2008 at 8:42pm

jack, publish a book and i'll buy it :)



Posted By: Mick Oz
Date Posted: 13/July/2008 at 10:02pm
nightrider.
And to think we didn't have to pay and attend a seminar or buy a book to figure that out.
But a fool and his money is soon parted, thats why these scammers make money from hard workers looking for a quick get rich quick scheme.
NEWS FLASH................. there is NO such scheme.

Mick

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/July/2008 at 10:48pm
Joe Polish makes money off selling to lazy ass dumb carpet cleaners who aren't willing to think for themselves.
 
Joe Polish can't tell you anyhting that you can't learn on your own with a little reading and some trial and error.
 
Here is some free Steamer advise
 
FREE!!!
 
1) Don't be affraid to drop a couple of bucks advertising... no ones going to call you if they can't find you...
 
2) Once you get a call, be warm and helpful on the phone and book that damn call.
 
3) once your in the house give them the best damn service anywhere...that means show up on time...  look clean.. with working equipment, and a big f**king smile on your face, in the greatest mood like you just got a blow job after you found out you won 10 million dollars.
 
4) repeat steps 1 through 3 until the refferals & repeats start to kick in
 
5) keep advertising  just to build business and improve consumer cofidence.
 
6) what ever you do if it's ads..cards..programs...flyers..lettering on the damn van apply the K.I.S.S. theory  
 
this was free info..


Posted By: Mick Oz
Date Posted: 13/July/2008 at 10:51pm
As always great advice STEAMER.
And to all the scammers you can apply the KMA theory (Kiss My Ass)

Mick

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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 13/July/2008 at 10:52pm
and worth every dime of it.  I agree with steamer.  Did I just say that?

Steamer is right.  Treat this like any other business.  The old saying "build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door"  has never been true.  Spend money advertising and don't blow what it brings you or you can find a lucrative career at home depot.


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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/July/2008 at 11:03pm
There are too many businesses that offer piss poor service.
 
I can honestly tell you alot of my customers call me because they know that I'm going to be there on time...and super friendly...
 
The girls thats answer my phones are super sweet...and return calls right away if they are on the line...
 
it's not always about the cleaning... it's the total package.
 
I think I have never said this before, and won't say it again.  It's IMPORTANT to take Visa and M/C and have the symbols on every communication piece you put out.  It sepreates you from the joe blows.. it shows you are not a fly by nighter..
 
It takes good credit to be a merchant, and customers respect that.
 
thats another free tip


Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 14/July/2008 at 1:13am
Building a solid business and building a solid foundation for wealth are miles apart . If you have a successful business making money and allowing you to extrapolate an income from it is all fine, but if the balance of the money that sits in a business account just sits there then you're on the road to nowhere.................Money has to be your best employee, doubling and tripling itself by ways of investment and venture .
 
Building wealth is a game of chance, wits, timming and aggression.
 
Remember all businesses usually all fail eventually............there are not alot of businesses out there that are 60 to 100 years old.
 
                                             Nightrider


Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 15/July/2008 at 2:27am
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 16/July/2008 at 12:58am
Yep, all Polish did was take what was already out there and repackage it.

How does the old saying go, You can't reinvent the wheel?




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Posted By: bensurdi
Date Posted: 16/July/2008 at 1:03am
Joe did the homework that it takes, put it into the context of carpet cleaning business owners and presented it in a way that is easy to understand and easier to impliment. We should appreciate his efforts instead of talking poorly about his outstanding efforts. Instead of paying him 1500 I am doing the research and homework myself, it's not easy and it would be much easier to pay 1500 to get it all set up for me, but this is my choice, dont patronize or critisize people for making things easier on themselves. 

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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 16/July/2008 at 3:11am
Wouldn't think of it.  We all learn more from the things that go wrong than from that which worked the first time.  And no doubt learning by doing has a greater impact than relying on someone as an answer man.

Would you rather be the man who reads about history, writes about history or makes history?  Joe's customers read, he writes while others actually give him something to write about.  You may very well turn into one that he writes about, who knows?

Good luck Benjamin.


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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/July/2008 at 10:16am

Joe was doing 10K a month before selling his marketing ideas.. So they do work well.. Hey he's a millionaire now.. Anyone else here m-aire's..?



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 16/July/2008 at 7:37pm
it all starts here...
 
a customer wrote today...
 

To Whom it may concern,

 

I am just writing to say what an excellent and professional job Earl did today at our place Waterdown. He was very polite and took the time to do a complete job. Thank you very much and we would recommend your services to others. This is the first time I've ever taken the time to do this but I felt Earl went above and beyond.

 

Thanks again,

Chris and Tracy
 
See I will get the repeat next year....and I will get referrals.
 
Advertise show up and do the best damn job that you can!
 
 


Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 16/July/2008 at 8:47pm
Steamer, your all right!Big%20smile
Now, if you really want to get a lot more letters like that one, all you have to do
is add my "Sliders" to that Prochem wand of your's, then you will be the BEST YOU CAN BE!LOL
 
                        Cheers, AL


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Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 16/July/2008 at 10:10pm
Prochem??
blah
meh
Lame%20Sign


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 16/July/2008 at 11:39pm
I get letters like that one all the time. 
Joe Foolish has nothing on me


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/July/2008 at 11:56pm
Maybe you should start selling your marketing program, but first you'll need to grow a pony tailLOL

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 17/July/2008 at 11:58am
Joes going bald.. Above and beyond the call of duty!



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