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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14/March/2005 at 10:10pm

Who's pissing Lee...... not one piece of bad information came from any one of MY POSTS.

The most important part of carpet cleaning is.. the carpet cleaning...

My father Owns a small Bottled beverage factory that employes around 30 people, HE HAS NEVER allowed anyone to mix the ingredients to his product.  Why??? because thats the most important part of his sucess and he has to make sure it is done properly...

My father the man that taught me everything I know about business would say"if the product is no good... no sales" and thats why he will always and forever mix the ingredients for his juices...

He can sell to but he leaves that to the sales people....he says it's easy to sell a good quality product and he's right..

If you want to flame me... please use direct quotes from my posts... I did not tell anyone to buy a page in the yellowpages or get any fancy dancy programs, or a platinum Vortex.

all I said was hire a sales man...and do the cleaning himself.... maybe later that can change  but at first you want the best out on the road to service the customers.

 

If I have given any bad information I will never post here again



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14/March/2005 at 10:12pm
Originally posted by Lee Stockwell Lee Stockwell wrote:

OK

 

Let's hear from any established firm who hired a salesperson as one of the first employees, and had that turn into a winning proposition that lasted at least one year?

I can name you more than one right here in the GTA....  "The Grand Mothers Touch"  a small cleaning firm that now employees around a hundred employees... all from a sales person on the road...

but you don't know him so whats the difference... like I said talk is cheap

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your both dumb
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Waldo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14/March/2005 at 10:42pm

You can tell a loser when he replies to his own posts.  Mr. Steamer since Doug has left you are the biggest idiot on this board. Remember you can give no advice.  Your a Sears Bitch.

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lee Stockwell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14/March/2005 at 11:33pm

It's funny having conversations with so many hiding behind aliases, maybe I'll get used to it.  My son-in-law is from Orillia ON so I know it's not a "Canadian thing".

Mr Steamer, why did you choose not to join your father's firm?

BTW I don't believe my comments were particularly aimed at your posts, but to "advisors" in general.

 

Thanks, Lee

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote danmarck82 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14/March/2005 at 11:58pm
Lee, what are you really expecting when you come to an internet forum?
Cleaner 1 asked for advise. It is up to him to try to weed out the good ,
bad and otherwise. Why would you be mad at people expressing their
sincere opinions.

Your sons must have figured out how to separate out GOLD from B.S.
or they would not be so successful today,

and so must all of us. I don't think any of the above posts were meant to
deceive anyone just honest opinions from different backgrounds. IMHO
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lee Stockwell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15/March/2005 at 12:31am

I was never "mad", just annoyed at the ease with which otherwise intelligent adults seem to degenerate to Jr HS level when behind a mask.

This is the first internet forum I've participated in that has near total anonymity of the posting body.  I participated on Cleanfax from the beginning in '98 and was one of the organizers of Summerfest from '99 on where real people got together and made a difference.  Just about everybody used their real names unless they had something to hide.  Just what I'd expect from a professional forum. 

I abhor "bogus posters" and cowards who can freely attack from behind a mask, and if they choose, can slink into the dark and change identities.  If this forum's profile section had spaces for more info, I would give it, as it is on ICS, Cleanfax, and CCS boards.  I'm real, warts and all.  My business is real.  My track record is real. I've had the same business phone number for 34 years. (270)-753-5827  If your caller Id is blocked, leave a message.  Otherwise I'll pick up and talk (I don't care for anon callers either you've noticed?).

 

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Lee Stockwell

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Thanks Mr. Steamer for the post about the cleaner with the slaes person in GTA ( Grandmother's touch) This is the information I was looking for. I am convinced this system of a sales person on the road with proven sales ability will work. I am glad to hear someone has actually tried it. I have been struggling with this for a while.

I use to work for the competition as well and my previous boss use to do all the sales and marketing himself....but he had the best cleaners in the city....in business 25 years and a good guy to work for too. This method worked well for him...but if your strenghts are in cleaning and not in sales then why not hire a GOOD....and I stress GOOD....sales person to do the ground work.

Later on I will hire/train another technician and so on. maybe I'll get on the road doing sales when I feel comfortable enough with my technician's. In the area we work in now, I have been doing the work for along time and my customers expect to get me...but that will change as time goes on....I will gradually phase out of cleaning and put my new guy in that position as well.

Remember, we are expaning to a new area....hard to be in two places at once...so that's why the salesmen.

Lee, I appreciate your input. How many different sales people have worked for you in the past? And how long were they with you? Did they actually know the cleaning business or were they just slaes people trying to get to know your business?

Just some questions. I appreciate everyone's input here

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LEE I'm not hiding ... my companies trade mark is Mr.STEAMER.  So what if someones behind a mask or not... I don't know LEE STOCKWELL more than I know a SUCTION.... Just because you use an alias that doesn't discredit your information....

no on has to post anything here, we are not paid... so just go with the flow like dan said you have to weed through.

As for your question why don't I work with my father??? I wanted something on my own.  He was the one that gave me my first van to put my unit it. I'm not his shadow I'm his son.

Actually Lee it's better when you use Alias' so your feelings won't get hurt, like I guess yours where.

to Waldo... you are plain and simple just a fool, no need to explain anything to you.

 

The Duke of Earl

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I use Dove body wash gel

and I love the feel of cottonelle toiletpaper on my backside I've been using them for 34 years

I guess thats too much info

 

 



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Fuuny thing is Lee is very real... Just enter his name in your search engine he is every where.. look I found his pic... 

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Here he is again...  The man is a spot cleaning Champ... but just because you're a somebody and Mr Steamer is a nobody doesn't mean his information is wrong..  I still stand by what I said...

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No wonder the man is so *ocky
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I can tell anyone that Lee Stockwell is real. "REAL GOOD" too.

I have met him personally and have spoken with this knowledgable gentleman on many occassions. very, very sincere and always willing to help anyone.

Steamer, I do consider us friends, and always will. However, I do have a little difference of opinion on one very important aspect of your thinking. You insist that "age" and/or "experience" is not relative whenever one whom has been involved in an Industry trys to give advice to others in order to help them avoid the pitfalls. Yet, on the other hand, with great pride, you use your Dad's experience as an example to others. I think this seems to be a conflict of reasoning, don't you?

 

I think from what you have stated, your Dad certainly knows his business and how to successully operate it because of his EXPERIENCE .

 

Never forget that "GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE---and alot of that comes from bad judgement!"

 

Good Fortune to all;

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lee Stockwell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15/March/2005 at 11:03am

The group pic from Summerfest6 in Knoxville is a group of very good guys from all over.

from L Jaime Coehlo from MA,  Steven L Smith from TN, Jeff Cross from Cleanfax, Rick Gelinas from FL, Me (sans crutches!), Wayne Miller from MD,  Gary Hea*ock from OR, Larry Capitoni, and Bud Nutter both from Ohio.  If you don't get to know each one of them you are really missing something, good friends just a ring away.  Many of the brightest in the industry.

*ocky?  That's funny.  You sure don't know me.

 

Thanks,

Lee

ps. Thanks Ed, I wish more would take the opportunity to swing by Ann Arbor.

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