A Few Questions???

bryan, since when is Stanley Steemer a good example of anything?  Want to put that to a vote?  Maybe you were trying to say that Stanley Steemer is a user of the TM method and it is their low prices (like a porty operator) that keeps all their trucks on the road.  We would agree that price is why porty operators stay busy when compared to many TMers.  So, soil has a point.  Whether we agree with his tone and tactics, he does have a valid point.

John, who is "They"?  And what is meant by "They just dont know any better"?  It that some backhanded feeble attempt and regaining a position it seems soil knocked you off?  All the porty guys here would love to know what your true feelings are.

Are the TMers willing to admit that we are equal and not second class citizens?  Or would you prefer watchman, soil, myself among others continue the battle?

Would you like these porty operators taking pot shots at fuel wasting polluting money pit high priced machines or in an effort to educate your clan of the merits of portables with the same drive and passion you all seem to have and do it in all your threads or can you admit that portys do a great job, manufacturers of these units know that, the mills don't say all portys are bad (and they are the final word) and the porty guys are pros, not joes?

Back to your wargames.  I will be watching.

Just simply rebutting the points Soil Lint Green made about TM's.  If you read my first post I was just offering a suggestion for some one that wanted a more powerful set up.  Very simply, simple answer would be don't have the money or just want to stay with a portable.  Instead I get TM's are the same as a portable, they are used for getting grocery, only good for water extraction,  and that I'm like some false religion sales person.  All this off of I think he should get a TM.  So ya I'm going to fire back.  Ok call up COIT or Stanley Steamer and discuss you portable philosophy with them  if you can get them give up there TM let me know.  I'm sure they will be happy if they can still make 175million in sales with a portable.  This is also just a public forum making a few statements is not beating up someone, you make it sound like he is in the 3rd grade. 

Does a person need to do drugs to know it is bad for you?  Is it fair to say that parents who have not been addicts are not qualified to discuss drugs with their kids?

Why rag on soil, bryan?  Do you perceive him to be a threat to all that is good about carpet cleaning?  He does have a point.  This is not a thread about TM machines.  Seems to be titled Portable Carpet Cleaning Machines.  I do not believe TMz are portable.  Which end of the pool is your group in?

Sorry soil to be sticking my nose in where it probably does not belong but I like to defend the underdog when he is making sense.

Nothing personal bryan but this is beginning to look like big bullies trying to take on the little guy and if I see that going on I am going to have a few guys for lunch.

Now back to your wargames.

Been busy working.  Sorry I missed out on the conversation.  So, what did I miss?  Any  eunuchs talking about how their strap-ons make them sex gods?  Yep, opened another window and there it was.  Portys rule, truckmounties drool.

Well, got to go feed my wife and I at the steakhouse.  I know, you mounty guys have to feed your machines instead.  Lifes a B then you die.  Enjoy the diet.

Portys rock!

DCC wrote: Very hot in here.

quick -- somebody turn on the air!  looks like a global warming storm is coming!!!

I think soil has a good point.  I guess everyone but the TM guys know how much power it takes to clean and how much it takes to be obscene.  Personally, I shampoo and then use my extractor with cold water.  But I have been doing it that way for years.  Frankly I have used wet dry vacs and no vacs.  Of course, takes skill to clean with shampoo which I know some guys here have for both commercial and residential.

To me a TM is a very expensive sock for the crotch.  How do they say it --- looks can be deceiving?

Mi Dos Centavos

Soil Lint Green sorry but think you are a little bit deliriously.  I think John had a good question have you ever used a good TM?  If the answer is not there is no point in going on with the conversation. Answer me this why would Sears use a TM's if a porty did as good of job.  After all they are a public company, I'm sure the board and share holders would be pissed if they could of just invested in just a porty and not the TM.  Let me see how many big companies I can think of that use only a porty... hmm... can't think of one.  I guess you should share with them that they have it all wrong and should sell there TM and use just there portables.   I can keep going.  Not trying to hurt you ego just trying to get some facts in you head.  What cleans better warm water or hot water?  Why do you guys look for the porty with the highest lift and CFM's if suction didn't matter? Why use a booster, again if suction does not matter?  You stated that TM operators clean with a 1000psi.  Who cleans at that, are you nuts?  You are only as good as you weakest link,  your portable, and I'm sure some companies weak link is the operator.  Think of it like this if you put the best race car drive in a Honda civic and told him he had to race in the Indy 500.  He would think you are nuts but you would say he  still has a chance to win because its not how powerful his car is.  It has EVERY think to do with it.  Just like the equipment we use as carpet cleaners it has a big part  to do with it.   No offense but you sound like the guy preaching the false religion.  Most guys that use a TM started off with a portable, if TM's sucked they would go back to a portable, but it is the other way around people with portables go to TM's.  Unless you have owned one I would try one out.   I guarantee that if you started with a TM and thats all you used and some one said you now have to clean with a portable, your religion would now think the portable is the devil.