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royaltouch 
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Ted,
This is very interesting!!!.......you have Cliff Monson posting on your site!
...and the RX-20 is King...on the same page
I know that Cliff knows what he is talking about...seeing he designed and is the inventor of the RX-20...and I also know, he's knows everyone that's someone in this industry...I pretty sure he knows JonDon as well...anyone taking bets?
Cliff and Chuck (aka the Monson brothers) @ Rotovac are straight shooters...that will and I repeat, will never leave you hanging.
kind regards,
Hugh
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carpetologist
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Posted: 29/May/2006 at 12:39pm |
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Michael and DevilDogTodd,
Spoke with Rotovac last week and sales are clicking. All sales people say this and so should you. Who wants to trust someone who is sitting on his thumbs waiting for the phone to ring. I like to do business with people who are clicking, clicking, clicking. It's nice to feel you are in the loop.
Rotovac tells me that they are working on a different 360 heads that will make this the most versatile cleaning machine in our industry.
Thumbs up for the Rotovac's ingenuity and brains. I wish them all well. Without the innovators we would still be shampooing by hand.
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Ken Harris
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Posted: 29/May/2006 at 1:48pm |
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Ted: I am working on a range of heads for that machine myself. These will be made available as aftermarket accessories when complete. When these are combined with what I know Cliff and Chuck are coming out with, this will truly be the most versatile rotary machine in the industry.
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DevilDogTodd
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Posted: 29/May/2006 at 3:30pm |
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What is a bit troubling about this is that they should have had the heads ready NOW.
How long will this take? I will buy the machine if they have a pad driver available for it. That is all I ask....a pad driver. You would have thought this woud be a fairly simple thing to do and they would have had one ready when they started selling the machine. DevilDog |
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Ken Harris
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Posted: 29/May/2006 at 5:56pm |
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Todd:
You would think it would be, but it is not. A pad driver takes a fair amount of energy to turn. This machine uses a 3 amp DC motor for the drive, which on the face of it, is NOT enough torque to drive the driver. There is only 2 ways around that problem:
1) Increase the amperage of the motor up to 4 to 6 amps. That takes time to do, but may be done on the next model of this machine.
2) Reduce the effort required to turn the pad driver. That can most easily be accomplished by reducing the diameter of the pads so they turn easier OR the pads used can have a anti-friction medium applied to them that makes them easier to turn(such as teflon). Which brings it back to my area of specialty.
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Michael
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Posted: 29/May/2006 at 10:35pm |
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Would pads somehow treated with teflon remain absorbant? Maybe you'll find a workable solution, but I doubt I'd be satisfied with a pad driver solution on that machine. A 35 pound pad driver would seem gutless by any standard. I'm open to being proven wrong, though. When my business partner and I expand, I'd like to get a truckmount and run the RX-20 off of that; the extraction will be beefier, so I don't think I'll be as dependent upon such a robust pad driver as my Hawk buffer. I can get the pad driver attachment for the RX-20 at that point, and I'm sure that would be sufficient. Then, I think I'd like to use the 360 with my portable set-up: 360, Hawk, Ninja 500.  I don't mean to hijack the thread here . . . just using my keyboard to "think out loud," as it were. I really hope the 360 is as good as it appears, because I'd love for it to be part of my eventual expansion. |
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Ken Harris
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Posted: 29/May/2006 at 11:14pm |
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Michael: If the Teflon were applied equally all over the pad you would certainly be correct about a lose of absorbancy happening. However it is not necessary to do that. The area of the pad that gives the greatest friction to turning is located only on the outside edge of the pad. By treating only that portion of the cotton pads with the teflon, it is possible to reduce 1/2 the friction of the pad, but retain over 90% 0f the pads innate absorbancy. That is how we do it with our Superpads. They can easily be driven with this machine using a pad driver.
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nightrider
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Posted: 30/May/2006 at 1:35am |
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Michael
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Posted: 30/May/2006 at 3:06am |
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Jack, you could pants-clean carpets without the teflon. You're that good.
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nightrider
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Posted: 30/May/2006 at 3:39am |
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Michael
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Posted: 30/May/2006 at 3:43am |
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Hey man, go to bed! Don't folks your age get up at 4:30 or so?
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nightrider
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Posted: 31/May/2006 at 12:24am |
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Michael
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Posted: 31/May/2006 at 1:57am |
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Well, I experience an aftershock here and there.
Wish I were there too. |
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Ken Harris
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Posted: 31/May/2006 at 4:31am |
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Wow! Kane was sure Abel to remove much of those nasty posts he posted .Must have seen a light somewhere. I hope it wasn't a train, eh?
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