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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Superglide Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/October/2004 at 12:14am
John; actually we agree on more stuff than we disagree on. But if I agreed with you too much, life might get boring for both of us, so I look for oportunities to get you riled up from time to time, just like you do with others! LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PadMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 10:48pm
Now that's better...LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Superglide Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 9:47pm

Lets see now, .50 for the HWE, add 30% for the OP and voila....... .65/sq ft! Yep you should do well at that rate Mr Steamer!

 

John: Sorry for answering Mr. Steamer's post for you up above. I know that you are quite capable of doing that yourself. In future, I will wait at least 3 hours to see if you want to answer rather than the 2.5 hours I did wait to hear your reply.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PadMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 8:51pm

So what did your portable or TM cost you?

It doens't take long at all to make the money back, for one, padding is very cheap on chems and high on profit.

Whatever you charge for HWE you should charge 25-30% more for padding, I know it is cheaper to perform but the customers will more than likely use your VLM cleaning if you charge more because then they will know YOU believe in it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 7:45pm

2199 usd about 2700 cdn I don't know what to think... looks good... I would love to have one but man I still find the price out of range.. with the pads will run well over 3500..

But you have to look at the fact you'll make money off it and most likely will make it all back...

I guess it uses a special pre-spray???

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carpetologist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 7:00pm

Why is it that we all want to brag about our profit. But do not want anyone else to show a profit from us.

Remember the first three letters in PROfit is PRO.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 6:18pm
i don't think padmans machines are over priced at all. in fact i plan on buying a package from him.... talk to you soon padman.
nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PadMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 6:08pm

OK, let's get this straight, so many people THINK manufacturers make a bunch of money off their equipment, however I and several others had laid out that we DON'T.  Is it because we don't sell for well over the COST of building? Heck no, we have too, that is expected. What so many do NOT take into account is that by the time, packing, warehousing, warranty, advertising etc have been paid, the machines themselves do NOT MAKE MONEY.

 

I also can answer for myself Ken, you don't need to do that.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 5:59pm

The thing Padman doesn't know is that I've been in manufacturing for years... I know what a motor cost... and how much it cost to get fabricated parts, really it's all about quantity...

Why doesn't anyone want to admit that they make money... Thank Ken for admitting...

How much is it going to cost you Ken to make your op's out of Mexico??

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Superglide Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 3:37pm
Oh there is money in it , Mr Steamer, but most of it is on the pad and chemical side. John makes money there. Now that he has volume sales happening on the machines these last couple of years, he is making money there as well. Why would he sell them if there was no money on the machine? Because if you don't have a machine, you don't need the chemical and pads either, now do you? LOL
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Originally posted by PadMan PadMan wrote:

You obviously are not a manufacturer Senor Steamer.

 

After advertising and sales there is NO money in the machine itself.

Just like a TM, they are no more than chemcal dispensers.

Sorry Padman... apples and oranges... if compared an op with a portable maybe....but a truck mount no way....

Pretend I'm a government auditor....if there is no money in it Mr. Padman why makem???

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Oh brother...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bjørn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2004 at 2:04am
did you sell the patents Kens

selling the rights to something that is just not there

well?

Just like the Raptor

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Superglide Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20/October/2004 at 11:27pm
You forgot that you told me, John. Last March when I saw you down in Kentucky. LOL. Your memory is slipping. No need for any living room calculations. I also had costing done on your machine with the manufacturer of the RSE as well. It pays to know the cost inputs of both machines when deciding where to set price point for a machine that can pad as well as HWE carpet.
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