Chemspec Chem’s

A few chemical manufacturers in the States have emailed me several times asking me to cool it with my calling their chems "poison". They prefer the word "toxic". Go Figure, what is the difference?

But these same manufacturers are the first to admit that too many of their end user customers have no respect for the ingredients or the potency of the chemicals they use.

The reason I am so hostile on this subject is that too many of us don't respect the cleaning solutions we use. There is too much of this "ah, don't worry" type attitude.

I agree that with most products we use its unlikely that a single exposure  is going to affect us very much.

However use these same chemicals all day, 6 days a week, 50 weeks a year, for 30 years ---- I don't believe there may not be repercussions.

Thats why we must identify the products that have the D2 stylized T symbol to our employees, they do after all have the right to know of the hazards to which they are exposed. Whether they be immediate or from long term exposure.

You see Mr. Nightrider, its exactly people like you and your indifference that I am trying to change ever so slightly.

Now if you'll excuse me I have another wall to go bang my head against LOL

Bullroar.

I have a chronic sinus drip, I believe it is from the misuse of enzymes.\

I know many who can't tolerate butyls anymore.

The bottom line is WHMIS is an "information system".

Workers have rights. Supervisors and employers also have responsibilities.

As for no dangerous products on our trucks-would you drink or wipe yourself down with rust remover? how about Microban? Have a spot on your pants? Pour some dry solvent on it ? Right?

Wakey, wakey sunshine.

one thing I have to agree with is that when I started my biz and ever since there has yet to be any authority figure ask me about my chemical or WHIMIS knowledge

yes I've taken the courses and refreshers it's just that I don't think anyone cares except me

Its in the OH&S Act of Ontario

Workplace Hazardous Materials Information System

R.R.O 1990, Reg 860, as am. O. Reg 36/93.

In my older copy I keep on my desk its page 598.

Where you are off is that they must be able to understand what to do and what to be careful of. They must be able to "apply their knowledge" with the information they have been provided.

Section 9(3)-An employer shall ensure, so far as reasonably practicable, that the program of worker instruction required by subsection (1) results in the workers being able to use the information to protect their health and safety.

;you called your lawyer at midnight or later???

I smell something

General........Did you not take your medication today, relax.........I don't care what you clean with.

You can clean with lemon juice and tonic water for all I care. I suppose it would be the same as D.F.C ( It supposed to be made from food substance.

As far as a sh*tdisturber, you're right........... I am.

As far as hiring a spy.........I used to be one, and I was good at it, so was my wife.

As far as the WHMIS, I don't have to argue that point, just do a search wherever you like and see for yourself.

I have all the rules and regulations, I had to put them into practise everyday, and every new employee.

Tell me where I am way off, is it the language issue, the employees just have to have a copy of the symbols and hopefully understand them, and the msds sheets in either French or English and hope they can read. The employer must hold a class to teach of the chemicals they will be using and hope they remember.

That's it in a nutshell.

                               Nightrider

That's NOT TRUE General Lee.The worker does not have to know anything about the chemical, neither does he/she have to know how to interpret the msds info,NO controls, NO safety measures,& DOES NOT have to know how or where to dispose of said material and or empty container.The employer just has to supply the symbols of the dangers of chemicals, and supply the msds sheets on chemicals they are using. That's it. No More No Less.The law stipulates that the labels must be on the product, a msds sheet must be presented to or be posted whereas it has easy access to emloyee, some companies go as far as giving a 10 minute lesson on the chemicals.It is actually a law that you teach the dangers to your employees but 99% of companies seem to omit that expence.

Here sits the problem that is not enforced, the msds info must be in the 2 official Canadian languages, the problem is that most maintenance cleaning people are either Mexican, Italian, Greek, Spanish, or whatever......most don't speak the language and not smart enough to remember what you told them 3 minutes ago.In Quebec the employer just has to furnish the msds sheets in French as well as the labels. In the rest of Canada the employer just has to furnish the msds sheets in English as well as the labels.

Only the supplier must label in both official languages.

Listen I can make you a bomb with cow or horse sh*t and other stuff , intellengence plays a major role in any industry you work in.

Lee where's the pic of your basement and truck load of D.F.C and EcoGent

                                Nightrider