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   I'm sure you all know this but in Canada the MSDS only has to list the harmful ingredients.
The product I was talking about for the restaurants has NO butyl.
And this whole thing about �licensing agreements� forget about it you�re not even close. 

Next you guys will tell me SWISH makes their own chemicals LOL

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jackblack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 18/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 163	Post Options Post Reply Quote jackblack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 11:15pm
	I'm sure you all know this but in Canada the MSDS only has to list the harmful ingredients. The product I was talking about for the restaurants has NO butyl. And this whole thing about �licensing agreements� forget about it you�re not even close. Next you guys will tell me SWISH makes their own chemicals LOL

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Stanley Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Journeyman Joined: 17/March/2004 Status: Offline Points: 272	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stanley Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 10:34pm
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Stanley Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Journeyman Joined: 17/March/2004 Status: Offline Points: 272	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stanley Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 10:33pm
	True thing Doug...but who's going to tell....I come from the land of co-packing...to Analise a product breakdown is very easy...all these companies have labs right on site...a few hours and the can give you an exact chemical breakdown of any product.... no secret sauce here.....lol a lot of the products we by are bogus believe me I know...not ever thing is mixed to spec...not everything gets the very same dilution...it varies from batch to batch. you must have noticed that 1 bottle of soap worked great....but the next time you bought it... it didn't work as great... Msds are good but not always true...don't get caught up by fasle security...I know I was in the industry
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doug Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List King of the One Liners Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711	Post Options Post Reply Quote doug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 10:23pm
	Hey let up. You guys are looking for MSDS. I am looking for a record of employment. I was fired without just caues. I believe in this provience you have the right to refuse.Don't you. Stanley I don' thimk you can by chemicals with the exact mixture as chemspec from the company chemspec has a contract with or there would be trouble. I could be wrong but I believe there would be a licenceing agreement to prevent this.

LilNiteRidrhood Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Master Carpet Cleaner Joined: 17/March/2004 Location: Antarctica Status: Offline Points: 1257	Post Options Post Reply Quote LilNiteRidrhood Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 10:12pm
	He'sscared to show an MSDS. Maybe its full of butyls. Maybe its full of NPEs. Who knows? Trust me. Oh brother, answer Nightrider's question will ya.

Stanley Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Journeyman Joined: 17/March/2004 Status: Offline Points: 272	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stanley Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 10:12pm
	Any chemicals can be made with the proper specs....Weak up people..it's called co-packing.....Slap on Chem-spec or pro chem or esteem on it and it triples the price..... Why not buy factory direct...where you can get the savings.....
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nightrider Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Marketing Master Joined: 12/March/2004 Status: Offline Points: 4666	Post Options Post Reply Quote nightrider Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 10:01pm
	Meanwhile..back at the ranch..Nightrider is still waiting for some prices and specs on that so called wonder product.

jackblack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 18/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 163	Post Options Post Reply Quote jackblack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 9:01pm
	Spoken like a true Canadian�you�ve got a good attitude I have to give you that.

doug Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List King of the One Liners Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711	Post Options Post Reply Quote doug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 8:10pm
	Jack I am glad it is over I was running of things to say. Business owners and educated property managers. WOW I am impressed with the people you hang with. All the ones who want everything done for nothing. Just couldn't resist the last word since I am fired. You have a good day Jack I hope it is not to late to salvage it. You appear to be getting a bit hot under the collar. You should know me by now. No offence just had to rattle your chain when I had the chance.

jackblack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 18/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 163	Post Options Post Reply Quote jackblack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 8:01pm
	"Jack I am glad you have a portable because you are very small minded to come out and insult everyone or not." Dude you make so much sense when your write/speak (insert sarcasm here) If this is how you speak to customers I hope you clean in my area. While I'm dealing with business owners and educated property managers I think you're dealing with housewives or people who just got off the boat Anyway I'm done with you...DOUG YOU'RE FIRED!!!

doug Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List King of the One Liners Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711	Post Options Post Reply Quote doug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 7:50pm
	Well jack I guess I have been exposed to your mircale cleaner. So being retarded that is the best I can do. Why do people start posts by insulting everyone's intellengence? My spelling may not be perfect but I at least I get my point accross and I do usually have one. Unfortunately jack you missed the boat. Oh, did I see you did a job for less than $200.00 Jack did you mislead us with your previous statement? Surely a man trying to push snake oil would not mislead a mass of retards? Would he? Jack I am glad you have a portable because you are very small minded to come out and insult everyone or not.

jackblack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 18/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 163	Post Options Post Reply Quote jackblack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 7:25pm
	Doug a little off topic but I can tell from the way you write and spell that either English is not your first language or you just not go very far in the Ontario School system. That being said, when you state: "Lets be resonable a lab can't sell a product they are maunfacturing for someone. They have to change the chemestry" What exactly are you talking about?

doug Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List King of the One Liners Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711	Post Options Post Reply Quote doug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 6:51pm
	Jack: Maybe you should come down off your hyhores before you hyperventilate. Most cleaners that have been around, have at one time or another had gallons of product that was suppose to be a answer to everything and was not. NO name and private lable tells me nothing. But i know for fifty cents I will stay heinz because there are no other kinds with that distinct tast. So you can do your informmerical all you like but it is not going to work. It reminds me of as seen on TV so everyone should buy it because it is cheap. Lets be resonable a lab can't sell a product they are maunfacturing for someone. They have to change the chemestry. Maybe the MSDS will state the one side effect of prolonged exposure to your product is RETARDATION who knows. But since everyone is already retarded hey what do we have to lose.

jackblack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 18/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 163	Post Options Post Reply Quote jackblack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04/April/2004 at 6:17pm
	Nightrider with all due respect. I am not the "spokesperson" But think about it, how many suppliers say just give me your mailing address and I'll send you a few free gallons? Now I know why they dont do it, because they already know what I just realized. Most carpet cleaners (Not nightrider, jackblack and stanley) are RETARDED $hit who know's maybe you are correct nightrider when you said each guy posting has 5 different names they post under which means there is really only 2 or 3 guys here??? Edited by jackblack

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