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Adwa,

I'm not suggesting that you don't work hard on getting people to take courses. I realize that education and training are important.

 

I am suggesting that instead of inventing new courses and forcing current registrants to take them so they can advertise that they provide this service is BS. I have been stripping & refinishing floors for 26 years, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna tell customers that I can't advertise that anymore because I haven't been certified by the F'n IICRC.

Damn, now your gettin' me fired up

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Adwa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23/April/2005 at 11:53pm
Why did I miss something, did someone say you can't advertise what you do unless your certified.
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The IICRC rules say that you cannot use the logo unless you are a CF and you cannot advertise that you provide services unless you have at least one tech certified in that service. More courses=more certs for every CF=more revenue for IICRC from same registrants.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Adwa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24/April/2005 at 12:09am

And you think that most cleaners pay attention to that rule. I bet half of them don't even know about it. I'm sure they don't have a security team out there checking to see if you are CF in every service that you provide. Does it not say on your card what service you are CF in.

If you advertise that you are CF with the IICRC in a certain service and your not then that's were the BS lyes. 

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I know many don't follow the rules. It's not up to me or anyone else to police for the IICRC. It's their responsibility. Of course they tell you that they can't police because it costs too much. Maybe they should charge their registrants more money. That wouldn't work because they would lose more registrants or they would stop paying and continue to use the logo. The IICRC is in need of a major overhaul. They don't listen to anyone. They suggest the complainers(and there are quite a few) go to meetings and try to get on the board and blah, blah, blah. I suggest the people on the board and committees now, listen up and fix the problems, or resign and let some fresh, new blood in. Of course this is just my opinion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Adwa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24/April/2005 at 12:32am

There is some truth in what they say.  You have to work at something to get change. If you call and say this and that it will not work. You have to go to the meetings to voice your opinion and be consistent in what changes you think would work.  I realize that you and most people will not go through the trouble to do this. If they were bombarded with e-mails someone has to listen. Change takes time and any one person can make a difference.

 

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They never had any trouble coming up with new courses for the registrants and I will admit some of them are good courses. But changing the rules to suit the registrants is a big deal apparently. BS. Its because they don't want to change them.

There are many good cc'ers who have quit sending their money and given up their certs because of what has transpired over the past few years. It's a shame. You would think the BOD would get the message when guys who have been certified for years just quit. I doubt if anyone even contacted them about it at the time. The IICRC doesn't give a $hit. They tell you that they do, but actions speak louder than words. The only ones who can't see what is happening are the ones making the rules. In my opinion of course.

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I think I am over my head here. I myself have not even taken a coarse. Once the speaker starts I'm out of there. I hear you and with so many others the same story.  I just believe in education and it is your decision to take the exam to be certified. If the cleaners all took the coarse but no known took the exam that would be a big problem for them and there revenue.
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I flew to Toronto, Ottawa and Chicago to take courses. I drove to Minneapolis. I have spent thousands of dollars on travel and hotels. I really believed in certification and worked hard at it. Then they tell you that if you don't take a colour repair course, which I have absolutely no interest in, you will lose your Master status. F'k them.

Sorry, just venting.

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Ok now that is what I was looking for, the real reason you were upset. I would be too. Now fight, fight, fight back. Did you send them an e-mail and did they respond.
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Are you kidding? The only time you ever get a response from anyone at the IICRC is when you bash them on ICS or Cleanfax. Then someone shows up and tells you how great they are and how much they do for the registrants. More BS. If they did what thay should be doing and didn't piss so many people off they wouldn't have to spend so much time defending themselves.
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Yes but why would they require the already Master Students to have this coarse this should be for the existing members trying to get there Master. It hardly seems fare.
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Not everybody wants or needs to do colour repair. It should not be a requirement for master status. It's not cleaning. It could be classed as restoration, but barely. Most colour repairs are in apartments and houses. Bonded inserts are an option to colour repair. I took the repair and reinstallation course. I don't do that either. I sub to a local installer.
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Hugh Sinclair will be having classes announced soon.

QCSS2000 has a number of classes on an on going basis.

So does the Center for Disaster Recovery in Barrie.

So does Fibreclean in Ottawa.

So does Restoration College in Ottawa.

So does the Floorcovering Institute of Ontario.

And as a matter of fact QCSS2000 will be having the new Health and Safety Technician class on April 25 and 26 and again May 2 and 3.

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