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doug ![]() King of the One Liners ![]() Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711 |
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After talking to Hugh I didn't think he was going to bother with schools anymore? I guess things change. |
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cleanex ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() Joined: 17/October/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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Master Cleaner and the IICRC I for one was a big promoter of IICRC and certification, until they made the change to drop water damage and replace it with color repair certification as a requirement for Master cleaner status. They than made water damage into a catagory of it's own with some silly master tag, I can't remember at this time. In my eye this was all about creating more schools for a very few instructors, whom I will not name. I have been very vocal on this subject, to the point where I have been told to back off by some of the IICRC officers, and after a while I just gave up and no longer am a registered firm, I do continue to advertise that I am a master cleaner and will to do so until the day I get out of this business. If the IICRC wants to come after me let them. I still think that it is far more important for a technician to have some basic water damage knowledge, than it is to send them to a colour repair classl that they will never ever use. From my days on the Board of IICRC most of the schools are directed at the technician level and it seems that the people who make the decisions at the IICRC have forgotten that. I also understand the need for advanced water damage schools in light of the mould issues in the USA, and I have no problem with that being a seperate issue, and the need for advanced education on that topic is vital. |
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mrcarpetcare ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 23/April/2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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After being IICRC certified for 15 yrs + as well as being a
Master Cleaner, I have seriously consired letting it go along with my
FIO membership. For me I don't know that it has made a difference where
my customers are concerned. I am glad I have all taken all the course,
but I don't like some of the requirements they have imposed on us. I
keep debating if it is worth the money. Over the yrs I have
logged over 600 hrs in education time and the only benefit that I feel
it has given me is that it keeps me out of trouble. I guess I
will continue debating it till it is time pay up.
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cmaster ![]() IICRC Instigator ![]() Joined: 29/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29693 |
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Watch it you guys, Scott and Joe are going to show up here and tell us we have no reason to bash a great org like the IICRC. Then we'll have to listen to how wonderful everyone is and how it's all about the registrants. Fortunately, some of us can't be fooled by the BS. We have formed our opinions based on the facts. |
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doug ![]() King of the One Liners ![]() Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711 |
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I could use a whole page on this topic on what has happened to me over the years. But somethings are better left unsaid.
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cleanex ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() Joined: 17/October/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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I do not bash education, I think we should get all of it we can, nothing wrong with taking schools and writting the IICRC exam, after all the of the best info you get at these schools is during lunch breaks talking to your fellow cleaners. I do not like organizations like the IICRC forcing me to take colour repair school to maintain my master cleaner status, as I said in my above post I will continue to use and advertise that I am a master cleaner until the day I leave this business. IICRC & IDE Certifified Master Carpet Cleaner. |
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cleanex ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() Joined: 17/October/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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You wonder if the IICRC cares, when you see and hear of long time veterns of this business saying I have given up renewing my certified firm status because of them forcing me to take a class I will never use. This is not a local issue I hear from all around the industry. It is time that the IICRC stopped being controlled by so few and get in step with the people that pay the way. If I had my way NO ONE THAT TEACHES A CLASS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO SERVE AS A DIRECTOR OF THE IICRC, this one giant step would stop the approval of unnecessary schools, or at least a lot more indepth forthought would go into the approval of any school.
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doug ![]() King of the One Liners ![]() Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711 |
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IICRC & IDE Certifified Master Carpet Cleaner. [/QUOTE] Don: Who is IDE?? |
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doug ![]() King of the One Liners ![]() Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711 |
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At one time CEC were all that was needed. Now they say for some catagoried you must reattend a school every couple of years or your technology is out dated. The term "Master" has allowed the price of seminars to far exceed their value and with the inclusion of some catagories that you would never attend being bunched in with the requirements to become a master tech, well it is job security for some. I can remember when I became one of the first Master Cleaning and Master Restoration Techs in those catagories . Even since I became a Senior Inspector they keep changing the rules. I am not sure if I qualify for anything today. Even with ASCR the CEC's for the CR designation are constant with ASCR and IICRC not allowing the proper CEC's for attending each others seminars. It is not the cost of the orignal seminar that will break you it is maintaining the certifications that is the hard part.
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cmaster ![]() IICRC Instigator ![]() Joined: 29/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29693 |
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In the real world, this is a conflict of interest. However, it seems that the BOD doesn't see it that way. I wonder why?
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MR. STEAMER ![]() True Patriot ![]() Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549 |
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I guess it really comes down in which field of carpet cleaning you work in.. residential IICRC is not needed commercial IICRC will get you the job companies with ISO's will look at having IICRC more favorable |
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cmaster ![]() IICRC Instigator ![]() Joined: 29/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29693 |
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Why do you think that? |
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greg ![]() Journeyman ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/February/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 444 |
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i agree that being IICRC certified isn't going to make the phone ring off the hook. but it does matter to some people. i had a new client just two weeks ago who got our comany name from the IICRC webpage. he was told by a local carpet outlet to only get IICRC certified techs to clean his carpet. he went to their webpage and got our name. i was just back there yesterday to do his furniture. i now have a repeat client who loves our work.
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nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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cleanex ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() Joined: 17/October/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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Doug IDE Certified I DON ELDRED AM CERTIFIED TO BE THE BEST CARPET CLEANER IN THE ENTIRE REGION. |
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