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Read it again, Lisa :

name me one distributor who does not sell glides because of the HR crap.

It does not say that it must be one of YOUR distributors, now does it? You were trying to make a point that HR would not effect MY distributor sale of glides, and that I was lying about that point. Well you are wrong, and there are many others besides this one, so you are WRONG> Not the first time either, but no big deal. I am getting used to it by now.

The other matter I wont comment on as it is still in the preparation phase. You will understand it soon enough.
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"Superduper over in Aneheim. Walter says he will not sell any till the litigation is over. Told me that last month. He used to be one of our largest accounts. He does not like your glides either. In fact, he let me know that many in the industry are thinking of sueing Greenglides over copyright infringement because of the way that you are using the company names without permission and adding them to your glides. Looks like you have more trouble coming your way soon. I could go on, because there are many others , but I made my point."

Superduper has never been one of our distributors and we have never sold or given them any glides. We have never even talked to them. Jay at SuperStar IS our distributor for that area. And he continues to sell our product. I don't know how Superduper would have even acquired one of our glides.

What are you talking about when you say "using the company names without permission and adding them to your glides" what company names? We don't put any company's names on our glides, including our own.

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Other than BP corporate, name me one distributor who does not sell glides because of the HR crap.


There have been many that have stopped selling the glides because of the HR problem Lisa, but since you asked for just ONE, I will give you one that is close to you.

Superduper over in Aneheim. Walter says he will not sell any till the litigation is over. Told me that last month. He used to be one of our largest accounts. He does not like your glides either. In fact, he let me know that many in the industry are thinking of sueing Greenglides over copyright infringement because of the way that you are using the company names without permission and adding them to your glides. Looks like you have more trouble coming your way soon. I could go on, because there are many others , but I made my point.


PS- Just in case some readers here think this is just one case of Lisa being proven wrong, and it is an exeption to the rule, it might be interesting to hear Lisa's response to my question to her 2 years ago when she was in the opening months of selling glides. I warned her that HR would come after Greenglides for infringing on the patents they hold. Here is her response to that warning:

They are leaving us alone Ken. I talked to them. The guy knows he's beat.


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OK, Ken, time to BS yourself out of this one
    

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    BS Ken, maybe you've cost YOURSELF that much in casflow because you are such a flake no one will do business with you.

Other than BP corporate, name me one distributor who does not sell glides because of the HR crap.

I have not had a single disty stop selling due to HR.

C'mon Ken, you are lieing in the bed you made. HR hasn't killed your sales...your unethical business practices have killed your sales. That and people only have to deal with you so long before they find out you are a compulsive liar.

While I can't stand HR and what they are doing. I don't think they have hurt sales at all, in fact, if anything they have HELPED sales by limiting the number of competitors.

NEXT!!!

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Lisa
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SGG said that himself?? He is not legally responsible for what he says??Guitar
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    Not whatever I say. Read what I wrote below. No mention of legal bills:



Not a question of if, only when Dennis. The problems with HR have cost me roughly $50,000/month in cashflow these last 40 months or so. I was counting on that money to launch the products you are referring to.I expect to have it back again by this coming Summer . That is when these products will be put into production.
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OK. Whatever you say

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I swear that you posted just a couple of days ago how you were spending $20,000 or was it $50,000 a month on legal fees. If that's true, you have already spent well over $100,000 in fees. What's the real story here?


You are wrong about that Paul. I was talking about what I lost in monthly sales on the Fullsize glides these last 39 months because of the despute with both HR and HF over the glides. I have spent almost nothing in legal bills since 2004 when Aqua-Max closed in June of that year.
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Originally posted by Ms Lisa Ms Lisa wrote:

You filed no papers in 2004, Ken, it would be public record. If you dumped a bunch of money in an attorney, they did nothing for you. In fact, you weren't even sued until 2005 at the same time we were...shall I post that document too?

NEXT!!!!!

Take care,
Lisa



Lisa:

I never said I filed any papers in 2004 did I? No. Most of the money was spent in 2003 shortly after Connections when I needed to find out my options. The money still went to attorneys and patent lawyers. I needed to find out just how strong a case HR had in defense of their patent, and wether it would be possible to obtain my own in face of their oposition to it. The opinion given to me then was they would need at least $250,000 to prevail in the case, which would likey take at least 5 years to resolve. That is why I never mounted a legal defense this time around. The glides are not worth that kind of dollars or time commitement. The lip glides are 5X more profitable, and are not involved in the dispute, so I put my sales effort there instead.
    
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